It's amazing how much you look like her!(As much as Leta looks like Jon)Are you the one of your siblings who looks the most like your mom? She's beautiful.
You have the same eyes. When I saw the little thumbnail of her eye I thought it was going to be a picture of you. It is a nice photo of your mom.
11.23.04 - 06:12 AM
17. Susie said:
What a beauty; you do look like her. The thing that strikes me most is the MISCHIEF in those eyes, in that smile. That girl is trouble. I'd hang out with her.
11.23.04 - 06:15 AM
18. ashley said:
you look alot like her..
shes really pretty
11.23.04 - 06:16 AM
19. jodi-no-blog said:
Oh yeah, I'm seein' that rebel look too. Its like a challenge.
I bet if you put your pic and leta's up next to it, you'd see a lot of similarity in those eyes. awesome pic. old black and whites are like holding hands in the dark.
I have a picture of my mom from that time, too, and her's is filled with self doubt. She never really understood how beautiful she was.
11.23.04 - 06:29 AM
31. Karen said:
I agree with Mary Lynn, when I saw the thumbnail I thought it would be a picture of you.
She's beautiful - I have a picture of my Grandma in her early twenties at about the same time your mom's picture was taken, and gosh darnit, weren't people just so PRETTY back then?
What a GORGEOUS photo. And now we get to see where your good looks come from ;)
11.23.04 - 06:30 AM
33. Caroline said:
Oh my god, I totally thought it was you with a wig on or something. Great picture, she looks beautiful. I'm so jelous of your genetic skinniness though. If I *walked by* a chicken wing I'd gain a couple pounds. As they say, if you can't make me skinny make all the web bloggers I read fat. But I guess you're constipated all the time so that makes up for it a little bit.
cool. i have some nice ones of my dad from back in the 30's.
11.23.04 - 06:39 AM
37. Jessica said:
Beautiful photograph! I had to compare it to the Armstrong family photo from Nov. 6, and...wow...you are so much like your mom!
Lovely.
11.23.04 - 06:40 AM
38. Fahrvergnugen said:
You definitely take after your mom for looks. I seriously love her old hairstyle. I've really been into vintage hairdos lately, sporting 1940s styles a lot.
Hey Dooce
You shoulf try working for Avon based on the fact that you look similarly in facial features, to your mom who is a bigtime Avon lady.
Ignore that you hate frilly. Ignore your other vocations like writing this blog, because you obviously have lots of time on your hands to do Avon on the side. I mean heck, you like sales, right - considering they only had to twist your arm a bit to get you to go to that Tupperware party - oh and the fact you spoke so favorably of that smarmy guy that sold you your house. I bet you' be reeeel good at sales and enjoy it too!
Nevermind the fact that you've said you don't want to get involved with Avon.
WHO ARE YOU F-ING WEIRDOS? Do you just type the first thing that pops in your head??
i thought of you this morning as I saw a headline - mother cuts off arms of baby. both my mother and aunt have been depressed in the past and it is a horrible thing for anyone to go through. i'm glad u're much better.
Regarding your post from yesterday: "If you haven’t already, you will, too." I have to say, I read that line about five times... Thanks for the hope.
Regarding the picture: It reminds me of lines from "Dressed in Black" by Depeche Mode...
"As a picture of herself
She's a picture of the world
A reflection of you
A reflection of me
And it's all there to see..."
I heard that story this morning, too...the baby/arms..I can't even type it. The story is totally awful, and they tag it by saying the woman suffered from postpartum depression. This is serious, serious shit.
11.23.04 - 07:35 AM
64. Kat said:
You MUST post a picture of you as the Yeah yeah yeah's girl. Please!
even there you can see the glint of world cosmetics domination behind her eyes.
11.23.04 - 07:39 AM
66. mari said:
For those of you who are interested in more information about post-partum depression and psychosis, this is an excellent website: http://www.melaniesbattle.org/
It tells the story of a mother in Chicago who suffered from post-partum psychosis.
11.23.04 - 07:41 AM
67. beachgal said:
just found the article. Goodness gracious, I want to go to the sitter's and hug my son RIGHT NOW!!! I've had issues of losing my temper around the baby, but dear lord, I've never wanted to hurt him. I feel bad on two levels: I feel so sorry for the mom and of course the baby, and then her family who will have to pick up the pieces. I wish she had gotten some help. What a shame.
Oh, before I had a baby, and before becoming a Dooceaholic, I would have probably said, "fry the bitch." How age and perspective changes things.
I love the picture of your mom, you look a lot like her. I wanted to tell you the post about Jon this morning really touched me. I read what the two of you write about each other and I wish it would happen to me. The both of you are inspiring.
You do look like your Mom a lot. And thanks for the words of encouragement in your post today. Everyone hopes to find what you have.
11.23.04 - 08:09 AM
76. Sheryl said:
Dooce, your mom is beautiful at 16. In this picture she looks plucky and smart, reminds me a *little* of Liz Taylor when she was young - National Velvet. I think my mom is the same age as your mom.
I prefer photo'd photos over scanned ones. Evidence of the artist's eye and perspective. Presence.
It is fascinating to me to discover little bits about my Mom before she was a Mom. It's like discovering a new person you never knew existed.
I love the picture of your Mom. She does have a terrific command of her self-worth. The picture looks like it was taken a nan-second before one of her eyebrows shot up with attitude.
Keep those pictures coming!
11.23.04 - 08:45 AM
85. Tracy said:
The Future Avon World Sales Leader looks so poised and canny in that pic, it's hard to believe she was only 16. Everyone seemed more elegant back then.
11.23.04 - 08:54 AM
86. Brooke said:
You look a lot like your mama.
11.23.04 - 09:01 AM
87. Randall said:
Your post yesterday with Liz Phair made me think of this photo, and then you posted a picture of your mom today. I hope she's happy these days too. Definite rockstar.
Babies can no longer be trusted once they can roll from back to front and front to back. Before that you can put them somewhere and they'll stay put. After that they are free agents. I discovered this when I set my older boy on my bed, turned my back on him to get a pair of socks out of the dresser, and turned back to find him teetering on the edge of the bed. I caught him in mid-air.
Personally I think Heather has a time machine and went back to 1961, got her picture taken, warped back to our time...meaning...Heather's mother is really...*gasp!*
Dooce: that may be your conclusion, but I think aliens came and moved leta in the night.
11.23.04 - 09:41 AM
94. TulsaOkie said:
Rock on Leta.. Get ready Dooce and Daddy... The fun is just beginning!
PS.. this is my first comment!
11.23.04 - 09:43 AM
95. bunny said:
Heh. Heh heh...heheheheheh....
(I can laugh now. MY youngest is almost 18.)
11.23.04 - 09:44 AM
96. wlfldy said:
Pretty much when you had Leta, life as you knew it ceased, Now you just have planes that as you know them no longer exist. Welcome to the 'crawl' plane...
I can tell that your mother looked just like Jon when she was a baby! Isn't that incredible?
You do look so much like her, though (go on, say it: "Really? I had no idea!"), especially the eyes and the mouth. Like a few others who mentioned it, I thought it was a picture of you from the thumbnail.
I didn't know Avon was frilly! I hope they are a pink organization as well.
Hee! Heather is her own mother! I love it when someone uses that storyline... I wonder if at any point in the past that was actually believable-- before genetics were known and shit.
Yeah. Probably.
What is great about the fact that Dooce didn't just scan this photo of her mother is that you can see Dooce's image in the glass. It is both eerie and lovely.
About the post-partum woman. That took place in my hometown. Plano is one of those really nice suburbs where everyone looks perfect and drives cars they can't really afford and has huge homes. It's a tough city to live in if you aren't in that ritzy boat. I wonder if that contributed to anything.
It fascinates me that so many of these stories happen in seemingly "perfect" towns. Or maybe it's just that we only hear about those cases because the towns are supposed to perfect and therefore it seems more out of the norm.
I just can't fathom how you could think to do that, though. EVER.
On a lighter subject,Heather, right before I started walking at full speed, my mother took me shopping. She had one of those sling strollers. She turned around to pull something off a rack, turned back and I was upside down hanging by one foot which was caught in the strap of the stroller! I never had a stroller again after that! And I think I was about 10 or 11 months old!! Oh, and I only crawled for 2 weeks! As my mother said, just long enough to know I was normal!
Amanda B! I checked out that link...creeeeepy. How on earth did you stumble across that one? (assuming, of course, you weren't actually LOOKING for it!)
Here are my favorite parts, from the two minutes I spent reading it:
"This site is dedicated to spreading the Gospel in the werewolf and furry communities. It is my hope that many trans-species people will accept Jesus as their Savior through this ministry."
"You forget that God is generous and kind. He knows our sufferings, and He will satisfy our longings to become *powerful nonhuman beings* if we remain faithful to Him."
"When I go berserk, I pray with more emotion."
"I prefer city parks because there is a chance of seeing criminals and thus I can get more easily frightened."
Oooooh, it just goes on and on!
*Giving into my Texas accent*...That rat thayer? That is sum weeeeeerd shi-ut.
11.23.04 - 10:20 AM
104. victoria said:
The web page about Melanie's struggle is incredibly heartbreaking . . . something about seeing the pics of that yougn woman surrounded by her loving family makes it just unbearable.
"If you are interested in becoming a Christian, please click on the salvation link to the left."
and:
"If you desire a shape-shift, please click on the P-shift essay link to your left and I will guide you."
Wow. A whole new meeting of subcultures. Another favorite of mine is the Vegan Gun Toter. And a variant of that, which is the Hippie Intellectual Warmonger.
I have strange friends.
Dooce, thanks as always for bringing together the Witty Nutjobs of the Internet. [over-confidently speaking for everyone here] we appreciate it.
And your mom's a total fox.
11.23.04 - 11:05 AM
107. Sheryl said:
Ty, as a survivor of my mother's severe mental illness, I don't think situations like this only happen in perfect towns - I just think that is one facet that makes the story appealing to the press and to the public. When these things happen in poor areas, I just don't think it is reported as often. And it is not reported at all for transient populations.
Victoria, you're right it is heartbreaking. One thing I can't get over is how some people reporting and talking about these tragic stories say or imply they don't think these women were insane at the time. Because the women call the police, or cooperate. The woman in Texas who drowned her children called the police. And people used that to show that she knew it was wrong to kill her children. A person can believe that they are doing something mandated by "god" or another moral imperative, understanding the laws around them, and still believe they are doing the right thing. In the case of the story today, the press is stressing in so many of the write-ups that she was very calm and not hysterical, that they never saw any evidence of illness. Like calmness and mentall illness don't go together. Like people can look at a person and tell if they are ok or not. Mental illness is so misunderstood.
I am not saying that people who kill their kids shouldn't be in prison - I don't know about that. But I am saying that someone who drowns their kids in the bathtub or cuts off their kid's arms is not mentally sane. Period. Also, the guilt that people carry with them after doing such things when they are mentally ill is torture and it is paralyzing, sometimes for life.
I'm sorry, I just don't got any funny stuff to say today. But I appreciate that others do. :)
Oh, and in the interests of full disclosure and not being an internet creep, I used to post as "anna", but there are an awful lot of Annas, so I switched to my alter-ego, Lulu.
Unless, of course, you're counting Little Anna Sunshine or HappyHappy RingRing, but we don't hear from them too often, so it's really not worth mentioning.
Sheryl, I didn't mean to imply I think it only happens in the suburbs it was actually more a commentary on how it is only reported in those neighborhoods. I just didn't express it well, sorry about that. It's sensationalism. So I actually agree with you.
As for the woman in the news today, when the story first broke on local television, they were playing the 911 call. She called 911. He (the operator) asked what was wrong and she said with a completely calm voice, like she did this everyday, "I cut off my baby's arms." Just like that. He repeated the statement to her, and she just said, "uhhuh." He asked if she was was breathing, and said "MmmMm" indicating she was not. It was so eery. It was pretty obvious something was wrong there.
Apparently, she was also being monitored by CPS because she left her 6 day old baby in her apartment alone, and was seen running down the street with her 11 year old daughter riding her bike behind her mother. They implied she was running down the middle of the street or something else very off. It seemed odd enough that a neighbor called the police. CPS had her in counseling and on medication for her post-partum depression.
CPS is now doing an internal investigation to find out if there was something else they could have done.
Just thought you all might want a little more info. on the situation.
It's just so sad.
And HappyHappy RingRing was my name for my first cellphone, that I was entranced with. It soon became my name (again; Thanks, Husband!) and got old really fast.
So, see? Not quite as bonkers as it could be. Right? Er--maybe not.
11.23.04 - 11:33 AM
117. Kim said:
I sOOOOOO thought that was YOUR eye, dooce.
Wondering, how many hits does your website get each day?
lulu: whatever. Like I'm gonna believe that totally reasonable explanation. I'm the guy who thought Leta was being moved around in her crib by aliens, remember?
11.23.04 - 11:39 AM
119. Leon said:
There's something disturbingly (in the philosophical makes my brain hurt sense) Plato's Cave-esque about a daughter taking a photograph of her mother at a time when she looks so much like the daughter and you can make out the vague resememblance of the daughter in the glass of the photo itself.
A picture in a picture in a picture of two different people who are the same
.....I'm gunna go lie down now
11.23.04 - 11:39 AM
120. Danika said:
re: “If you haven’t already, you will, too.â€
Thanks for the hope!
I look like my Mom a lot. I have an old photo of her and my Dads wedding... its uncanny. My grandfather also told me that when I was 15 I looked EXACTLY the same as my grandmother did when he met her. She was 16 when they met. I wish I had a picture of her from back then.
No real point to my story except that I agree with the masses... You look JUST like your mom!
11.23.04 - 11:49 AM
121. Mrs.Stray said:
Love old photos like that. I have one of my Grandmothers First Communnion.
Go, Leta, go! Wait until your mommy finds that you can undo the straps on your own diaper and unleash a trail of doo-doo right through the middle of the house. She's going to fuh-reak.
11.23.04 - 12:03 PM
123. Nobody said:
WOW.
"Thou art thy mother's glass and she in thee/
Calls back the lovely April of her prime"
11.23.04 - 12:18 PM
124. Erin said:
I can totally believe she is the Avon World Sales Leader! She looks as fresh as a daisy.
My mom used to lick her thumb and wipe smudges off my face with WAY more force than necessary. To this day, I shy away from outstretched thumbs.
11.23.04 - 12:20 PM
126. sally said:
The joys of motherhood...you have become a human tissue. It gets even worse, once Leta starts walking around she will come to you with a loving look in her eyes and wipe her nose on your pants/t-shirt/sweater. At least now it is only your hand.
And, I have become addicted to your site...which makes it hard for me to get any actual work done on the computer.
Is the quality of your photos an artifact of the camera you use, a digital manipulation, or a photographic technique? They all seem to possess a certain old-school Technicolor feel to them that I desperately want to understand.
Howdy Fish. Heck no, I'm not shape-shifting if I can't, (according to Ms. wacky christian dragon lady) change from one thing to another. I might want to be a dragon one day and a chinchilla the next. Screw that.
My mother will *still* dip her napkin in her glass of water to get stuff off of my face. And I'm 31. Very scary woman.
11.23.04 - 12:44 PM
130. annie said:
you definitely have her eyes.
11.23.04 - 12:56 PM
131. George Lover said:
Ok, so no one's actually asked this, but...based on the picture of your mother, it must be asked...was your father or any man involved in the conception process, because the resemblance is uncanny.
11.23.04 - 01:00 PM
132. Lori said:
Wow you look like her. A LOT.
11.23.04 - 01:02 PM
133. Sheryl said:
Ok, Fish & Amanda B - speaking of shapeshifting:
Did you see the CSI episode where there was a suspicious death at a convention of "Furries" and "Plushies"?
Amanda B: Wait, you can't change what you shift to? What a rip.
If I had to be a small furry rodent, I wouldn't expect that I'd want to be a Chinchilla, though--I have a great fear of being stepped on. Maybe a bat. That'd be cool ... or how 'bout a flying squirrel?
Fish, re: that link - I so don't want to think about how they collect product for that. I mean, it's not like you can send a dog into the bathroom with a plastic cup and a copy of "Dog Fancy: Bitches Gone Wild"...
You know what's even better than chinchillas? Chinchilladas.
I had a friend in college who's first summer job was working at a turkey farm in Illinois. His job, no kidding, was to extract turkey baby batter from the male turkeys. Apparently they are way too stupid to mate on farms. (I guess they also trample one another and drown themselves if you give them a big bowl of water)
Anyway, every day as he walked from his car to the barn the turkeys would go wild chasing him and making noise. The male turkeys. They loved him.
11.23.04 - 01:38 PM
142. Molly said:
I have a friend with an AG degree from UW River Falls.. She currently has a job collecting Bull sperm.. So of course my first question was.. HOW? She says that they hook the bulls up to artificial Vagina's they then freeze the AV's and send them out..
What a conversation starter....
11.23.04 - 01:38 PM
143. JoJo said:
My friend used his hands in surgical gloves to extract the sperm. Get this, the 62-year old turkey farmer showed him the technique a few times for him to get it right.
11.23.04 - 01:42 PM
144. Molly said:
*Dooce* You have to love that the site went from a beautiful picture of your mom to collecting animal spooooooge..
Molly: A ... uh, friend ... wants to know where you'd get one of them artificial, bull-sized vaginas, just out of curiosity.
11.23.04 - 01:54 PM
147. George (not GEORGE) said:
SHeryl, I *saw* that episode of CSI, here's a blurb:
It all starts when a man called Bob Pitt is found dead at the side of a road dressed in a raccoon costume. Bob's somewhat unusual get-up leads Grissom and Catherine to this year's "Fur Con", an annual convention in which ordinary people put their lives as "skins" on hold to dress up as furry creatures. Having extracted blue fur from the vomit found near Bob's body, the CSIs are on the lookout for any furries who might be sporting a blue costume.
Grissom, in full scientist mode, thinks "Fur Con" is fascinating, but Catherine finds the whole experience too weird for words. It isn't long before they find a potential suspect, Miss Kitty, who is spotted slinking down the catwalk of the furry fashion show in her neon blue costume. Kitty refuses to take off her mask at the convention, so she's hauled back to the police department for questioning.
Fed up with interrogating a pussy cat, Captain Brass orders Miss Kitty — who likes to be known as Sexy — to take off her mask. But when the deputy does so, a quiet-spoken, middle-aged man named Bud Deaver is revealed. Rather embarrassed and withdrawn without the support of his feline alter ego, Bud says he and Bob Pitt (known in the furry world as Rocky Raccoon) were "skritching", or rubbing their faces up and down each other's fur.
But when Grissom finds Bob Pitt's semen on the Miss Kitty costume, Bud has to confess what really happened when the furries got intimate. And what goes on at those conventions has to be seen to be believed...
11.23.04 - 01:57 PM
148. Molly said:
*fish* not sure .. Maybe ebay? check google.. they HAVE to be available for you.. er I mean your friend..
Gee, lets see ... I'd like one artificial cow vagina with a temperature probe ... one without, and ... ummmmm, give me a coupla' them disposable artificial vaginas for the road. And an order of fries, please.
11.23.04 - 02:20 PM
151. Jen L said:
What would this be for if you're trying to get the cow pregnant?
61650 Stallion Condom - durable latex material, 0.10" wall thickness; 12 3/4", 5 3/4 wide at base, 3 1/2" wide at top opening.
11.23.04 - 02:31 PM
152. eco2geek said:
Great picture. She has a subversive look in her eyes. So, here's a link to "Subversive Cross Stitch":http://www.subversivecrossstitch.com/ (there's a site that sells even naughtier patters, but, erm, never mind).
11.23.04 - 02:41 PM
153. Jenika said:
A friend was telling me about her and her husband decinding to breed their dog. The people with the female dog moved though and since it was hard to get the dogs together they brought their male to the vet. The vet slapped on the rubber gloves and started in on the dog. Thats right she jacked the dog off right there with my friend watching. She was really glad that one batch worked because she never ever wanted to do that to the dog again. She described how disturbing it was to see her dog get off on the vet stroking him.
11.23.04 - 02:45 PM
154. Mari said:
Okay, I'm feeling a little sorry for the World's Leading Avon Sales Lady. If she comes here and reads the comments about her picture (which is indeed beautiful), she is going to see posts about artificial cow vaginas and "jacking off" dogs. Poor Dooce's mom!
11.23.04 - 02:58 PM
155. Whitney said:
You look just like her! I love you Heather (in a friendly i dont know your family but if i did i'd make some excuse to hang out at your house all the time to shake pill bottles at your dog and hold your squaking baby sort of way), you make me laugh!
Ironically, I too know someone who has had to masturbate farm animals. (my sister-in-law the vet tech) Who knew it was such a small world? It's like the Kevin Bacon game only *icky and yucky*.
11.23.04 - 03:03 PM
157. eco2geek said:
This thread just proves how seminal Dooce's blog is....
that could be your eye in the thumbnai, dont you think? i mean, you look like her, no? i love how she looks like she's thinking, yeah, i'm cute, so what?
If you have read the above comments, your mind will now replace the words "whack, stroke and jacking" with "kitten, butterfly, and bunny rabbit". You will not feel alarmed nor be harmed by our silliness. You will only remember how we all think you are lovley, and shall feel appropriatly sassy for at least 3 days.
P.P.S. The above amendment applies hitherto and thusly to SweetGeorge as well.
gotta laugh about the box story. my coworker was decorating a box one day at work and asked "when i get my work done, can i go line my box with fur?" i burst out giggling because i'm 29 and what else would i do?
11.23.04 - 03:23 PM
162. Sheryl said:
Oh my. goodness. I went to a weekly team meeting and came back to all manner of broken taboos.
I too feel a bit blushy toward the Avon World Sales Leader.
You'd think we were a bunch of seamen, I mean, uh, we're talking like sailors!
Or standing in the yard in your underwear screaming at the neighbors.
11.23.04 - 04:06 PM
166. LOLA said:
Asked a girl what she wanted to be
She said baby, can't you see
I wanna be famous, a star on the screen
But you can do something in between
Baby you can drive my car
Yes I'm gonna be a star
Baby you can drive my car
And baby I love you
I told a girl that my prospects were good
And she said baby, it's understood
Working for peanuts is all very fine
But I can show you a better time
Baby you can drive my car
Yes I'm gonna be a star
Baby you can drive my car
And baby I love you
Beep beep'm beep beep yeah
Baby you can drive my car
Yes I'm gonna be a star
Baby you can drive my car
And baby I love you
I told a girl I can start right away
And she said listen babe I got something to say
I got no car and it's breaking my heart
But I've found a driver and that's a start
Baby you can drive my car
Yes I'm gonna be a star
Baby you can drive my car
And baby I love you
"For licking my hand and then using it to pat down the left side of Leta’s hair and then going ahead and using that same hand to wipe the snot from her nose."
-- Well, at least you didn't do it in the reverse order...
I know everybody is saying this, but I definately thought that was your eye in the thumbnail. That is a great photo -- there's so much going on in her face.
My favorites:
"the box is a game that has many variations"
"the box is in great condition and the film appears to be also"
"the box is the high for the period and the bottom line is the low for the period"
"the box is preferable to some of the common methods where horses are tied up and severly frightened" (which, really, seems in line with the earlier thread about, ahem, collection methods)
While reading an srchived page on Heather's site the google ads were for "1000's of LDS singles!!". Sorry if this has been noted in the past.
11.23.04 - 05:11 PM
171. Different Patrick said:
Someone above asked where the link to the furry Christians came from. I saw it on http://www.boingboing.net the other day.
11.23.04 - 05:27 PM
172. bb said:
you're so totally like her. maybe one day leta, in a brilliant blog of her own just like this one, will post a pic of her own mum at 16 and pple will marvel at the resemblance.
wow, i totally want to read leta's blog.
And there’s this scripture somewhere in Mormonism that warns you to avoid even the “appearance of evil,â€
HA! You learned that in a Seminary scripture chase, didn't you?? DIDN'T YOU??
11.23.04 - 05:57 PM
174. Heather said:
You two ladies look like twins.Your mom is beautiful. And yes, life as you know it is over now that you are on the verge of having a mobile cherub! Stock up on the baby gates now!
11.23.04 - 06:10 PM
175. Laurel 825 said:
She's very pretty. If you've never covered the topic, her rise to the Avon heights would be interesting to read. I've sold Avon a few times (not successfully) when my kids were very small - the first time, 1991, pregnant me pulling toddler and Avon brochures in a red wagon around the neighborhood in summer. Good times! :(
11.23.04 - 06:13 PM
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11.23.04 - 06:36 PM
177. Danielle said:
so, I'm reading along... and get to the part about the chincillas... and bulls and dogs.
and I say to the hubby, "boy, the comments are deteriorating fast"
and proceed to explain (a bit) about the comment topic
his response "guess I need to start reading the comments more often"
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11.23.04 - 07:12 PM
180. Tommy said:
She looks just like a Girl I knew in High school.
11.23.04 - 07:49 PM
181. Tracy said:
Yosemite Sam: holy shit, that's funny.
11.23.04 - 08:03 PM
182. Sheryl said:
No offense, but does someone need to take their medication ?
:)
Dooce, I'm starting to check back on your site obsessively just for the comments! Oh, and I hate working, so if it's not too much trouble try to put in more of those awesome nubbins if you ever get time. Great procrastination tool. Plus it's also a great excuse to weird out my schoolmates; I keep laughing at the laptop in the student lounge, they keep looking at me, and I keep suddenly glaring at all of them mumbling about frito dog feet, cabbage boobs, and GEORGE (I still am crushing on George)! I think I've accomplished freaking out most of the students that go to the lounge between 2 and 4. Great site! I promise this will be, like, almost my last drunken post.
Seriously.
11.23.04 - 08:55 PM
185. Caroline said:
AM I LAST? AM I LAST?
Please tell me I'm last.
*Just wanted to see if this'll catch on. Maybe I can be the LAST post sometimes. NEW COMPETITION!
YaY ME!
11.23.04 - 08:57 PM
186. Sheryl said:
Amanda B - Hey girl
(You're not talking to yourself there in the 3rd person are you...?)
11.23.04 - 09:08 PM
187. Sheryl said:
Oh, Caroline - it's only midnight in Beantown for chrissakes. You're so last... last paragraph!
Just kidding ;)
11.23.04 - 09:11 PM
188. pssst it's me said:
Amanda B, is it wo*th it to w*ite without those using those specific alphabetic units?
Wow... impressive list of strange people your mom's picture inspired... and that is all I am going to say about that.
My son (first born) could not crawl fast enough! Walk dammit walk!! Then I had twins and wised up. Luckily they were on the same page and did not crawl.. did not walk.. till they were 14 months of age. Get down and bless every single second Leta is not mobile will you?
Because the period between crawling and preschool is a damned loooong time ;)
People! Some of you have just gone off...the photo, people, the photo. That's what we are here for. Try and remember that.
It's so funny to see that picture...it's like you, Heather, with a shade of something else. It's a super cool photo. Such a direct gaze. I think you got your directness from somewhere--maybe her?
11.23.04 - 10:55 PM
197. HoneyBee said:
Sorry this is so after the fact, but I just found it today... cool site for those who are sorry to the rest of the world for the election results. www.sorryeverybody.com
Check out the gallery. People sure are creative! (And sorry too)
Nice box story.
As for the spit bath for Leta, I ate an altoid outta my kid's mouth (via his hand) at church last week --
re Leta going mobile, yeah, you are screwed.
There's nothing like a baby with attitude you can move around.
11.24.04 - 03:39 AM
199. Sue from Ohio said:
OMG, she's beautiful...and you look just like her...
11.24.04 - 04:01 AM
200. heathertoo said:
Tell the avon lady to sign me up! She sounds like a commerical. Whom-ever is making fun of her should be ashamed of themselves. (Is it YOU Dooce???)
11.24.04 - 04:24 AM
201. Kano said:
I think basically what IMAdumbass was saying in a nicer way is that most of the comments on here are retarded and they look like crap that people just type in fast so they can be first.....What ever being first has to do with anything.....Do you win a door prize?
Then there are the tards that want to be last.
Then there are the tards that make stupid songs.
Then there are the tards that think they are funny and make comment after comment.
In other words IMA is saying get a life.
The picture is nice and she does have kind of a smug look like she is ready to take the photographers job.
11.24.04 - 05:19 AM
202. Cori said:
gobble gobble!!
11.24.04 - 05:39 AM
203. Melanie S said:
Just curious if any of you have a favorite Dooce post. My hubby asked me to show him one that would make him belly laugh...he doesn't think it's possible.
11.24.04 - 05:46 AM
204. Sheryl said:
Melanie S,
Since he's a guy - this is a good one, unless he is anal retentive or uptight about poop.
Thursday, 16 September 2004
A Story About Someone Else's Ass
11.24.04 - 05:52 AM
205. Stacy said:
My favorite is Intimidation Feb 6 2002. Makes my eyes tear up from laughter every time.
1. Angie said:
What a family!
2. beachgal said:
She's beautiful!
3. B B said:
Me ! Me! I'm first!
4. Tabbie said:
Sadly I think I've seen that hair somewhere recently, but she looks lovely.
5. Lisa said:
You favor your mother. She's a pretty lady.
6. Heather 2 said:
I have a picture of my mother when she was about that age...it's my favorite picture of her, too.
7. B B said:
Booger. Nevermind.
8. koof said:
i can see the resemblance, i think
9. Alex said:
she looks alot like you
10. Sherri said:
I see where you get your eyebrows!
11. ilva said:
It's amazing how much you look like her!(As much as Leta looks like Jon)Are you the one of your siblings who looks the most like your mom? She's beautiful.
12. Em said:
Wow! You look a lot like her! She is a beautiful lady. This is the amazing Avon lady, huh?
13. Colleen from NJ said:
My mom had that same hair.
She's got that rebel expression in her eyes... or am I just reading into it?
14. karen said:
looks like a future avon world sales leader to me!
15. Sarah said:
Beautiful! You look so much like her, Heather.
I love seeing old photographs.
16. Mary Lynn said:
You have the same eyes. When I saw the little thumbnail of her eye I thought it was going to be a picture of you. It is a nice photo of your mom.
17. Susie said:
What a beauty; you do look like her. The thing that strikes me most is the MISCHIEF in those eyes, in that smile. That girl is trouble. I'd hang out with her.
18. ashley said:
you look alot like her..
shes really pretty
19. jodi-no-blog said:
Oh yeah, I'm seein' that rebel look too. Its like a challenge.
"I dare ya..."
20. Angela said:
She's beautiful... I can see where you get your looks from.
21. Amanda said:
What a purdy little lady.
Is EVERYONE in Utah beautiful?
22. di said:
wow, you really do look like your mother. it's also neat seeing your reflection in the glass over that picture.
23. Juliet said:
i just love how i can see your hand in the reflection on the right as you take this photo.
24. Kieran said:
You go Mrs AVON world!
25. stella said:
I bet if you put your pic and leta's up next to it, you'd see a lot of similarity in those eyes. awesome pic. old black and whites are like holding hands in the dark.
26. jen said:
Gosh, you really look like her! Maybe you;ll turn out to be Great Avon Sales Lady Mk II? ;)
27. Kimberley H. said:
You definately look a lot like her.
28. shana said:
Wow-so pretty!
Old photos are so much fun! They have a character that modern kodak prints lack somehow.
29. Karen said:
You are going to look like your mom when you get her age.
30. Anita said:
I like the self confidence in her picture.
I have a picture of my mom from that time, too, and her's is filled with self doubt. She never really understood how beautiful she was.
31. Karen said:
I agree with Mary Lynn, when I saw the thumbnail I thought it would be a picture of you.
She's beautiful - I have a picture of my Grandma in her early twenties at about the same time your mom's picture was taken, and gosh darnit, weren't people just so PRETTY back then?
32. Jenny said:
What a GORGEOUS photo. And now we get to see where your good looks come from ;)
33. Caroline said:
Oh my god, I totally thought it was you with a wig on or something. Great picture, she looks beautiful. I'm so jelous of your genetic skinniness though. If I *walked by* a chicken wing I'd gain a couple pounds. As they say, if you can't make me skinny make all the web bloggers I read fat. But I guess you're constipated all the time so that makes up for it a little bit.
Still...unfair.
Eat a donut, for me.
34. kim said:
i have one like that from my mom, too. and i love it..
35. AndreaBT said:
Dead ringer, you are!
36. Eddie said:
cool. i have some nice ones of my dad from back in the 30's.
37. Jessica said:
Beautiful photograph! I had to compare it to the Armstrong family photo from Nov. 6, and...wow...you are so much like your mom!
Lovely.
38. Fahrvergnugen said:
You definitely take after your mom for looks. I seriously love her old hairstyle. I've really been into vintage hairdos lately, sporting 1940s styles a lot.
39. melanie said:
you look just like her! Is your next hair change going to be 60's inspired?
40. Regan said:
I know everyone has said this already, but YOU AND YOUR MOM LOOK SO MUCH ALIKE!!! cool!
Maybe you should give the avon stuff a try, you could be a natural!
then again, maybe you shouldn't. though you did go to a tupperware party, so I think avon might not be such a stretch... ;)
41. Different Patrick said:
Dooce, you do realize that you told the internet EXACTLY how old your mother is, don't you?
42. red said:
you favor her a lot. she is STILL lovely. maybe she should model for Avon? :-)
43. kEma said:
Dooce,
you are trying to fool us. But we know that's not your Mum but you at the age of 16. Damn you are really beautiful!
44. Em said:
I love old family photos. This one is beautiful.
45. Ima Dumbass said:
Hey Dooce
You shoulf try working for Avon based on the fact that you look similarly in facial features, to your mom who is a bigtime Avon lady.
Ignore that you hate frilly. Ignore your other vocations like writing this blog, because you obviously have lots of time on your hands to do Avon on the side. I mean heck, you like sales, right - considering they only had to twist your arm a bit to get you to go to that Tupperware party - oh and the fact you spoke so favorably of that smarmy guy that sold you your house. I bet you' be reeeel good at sales and enjoy it too!
Nevermind the fact that you've said you don't want to get involved with Avon.
WHO ARE YOU F-ING WEIRDOS? Do you just type the first thing that pops in your head??
46. dooce said:
Ima Dumbass: chill out.
47. Michelle said:
I would TOTALLY buy Avon products from the lady in the picture.
48. Jazzy said:
She's gorgeous. I can see why she is the Avon World Leader.
49. TracyDee said:
You look just like her. You have her eyes.
50. Mari said:
She has a Mona Lisa smile - you can't quite tell what she's thinking. Beautiful.
51. Paula said:
What a resemblence, both very pretty.
52. Fish said:
re: Dooce's comment: I love it! a Dooce smackdown! Its like the WWF!
re: the picture: I didn't know Dooce's mom posed for all those old Coke ads and Norman Rockwell photos.
53. Molly said:
The Avon lady is Beautiful!!
I love looking at pictures of my mom when she was young.. I am finding now that my 5 and 3 year olds love to look at pictures of me.. :)
54. ashley said:
You look exactly like her. She's beautiful :)
55. nana said:
i thought of you this morning as I saw a headline - mother cuts off arms of baby. both my mother and aunt have been depressed in the past and it is a horrible thing for anyone to go through. i'm glad u're much better.
56. Fish said:
nana: Morbid and sweet at the same time. Nice.
57. KS said:
Ima Dumbass: What in the hell?
Go Dooce.
The Avon World Sales Leader is beautiful.
58. WindyLou said:
Substitute the tightly coifed bob for long, double perm with bangs and voila! instant Heather
59. Sara said:
Stunning resemblance.
60. Heather said:
Man, I wish I had looked like that when I was 16!
61. RazDreams said:
Regarding your post from yesterday: "If you haven’t already, you will, too." I have to say, I read that line about five times... Thanks for the hope.
Regarding the picture: It reminds me of lines from "Dressed in Black" by Depeche Mode...
"As a picture of herself
She's a picture of the world
A reflection of you
A reflection of me
And it's all there to see..."
62. beachgal said:
Mom cuts arms off baby?!?! wtf?
63. Sarah said:
I heard that story this morning, too...the baby/arms..I can't even type it. The story is totally awful, and they tag it by saying the woman suffered from postpartum depression. This is serious, serious shit.
64. Kat said:
You MUST post a picture of you as the Yeah yeah yeah's girl. Please!
You're mother is beautiful.
65. The Mighty Jimbo said:
even there you can see the glint of world cosmetics domination behind her eyes.
66. mari said:
For those of you who are interested in more information about post-partum depression and psychosis, this is an excellent website:
http://www.melaniesbattle.org/
It tells the story of a mother in Chicago who suffered from post-partum psychosis.
67. beachgal said:
just found the article. Goodness gracious, I want to go to the sitter's and hug my son RIGHT NOW!!! I've had issues of losing my temper around the baby, but dear lord, I've never wanted to hurt him. I feel bad on two levels: I feel so sorry for the mom and of course the baby, and then her family who will have to pick up the pieces. I wish she had gotten some help. What a shame.
Oh, before I had a baby, and before becoming a Dooceaholic, I would have probably said, "fry the bitch." How age and perspective changes things.
i'll quit rambling now.
68. goodsnake said:
Dooce,
I love the picture of your mom, you look a lot like her. I wanted to tell you the post about Jon this morning really touched me. I read what the two of you write about each other and I wish it would happen to me. The both of you are inspiring.
69. Shan said:
You look somewhat like your mother, I could have picked her out in a line-up.
70. heathabee said:
You look just like your mom!... y'know, just incase anyone else hasn't told you that yet...
*rolls eyes* (yes, I am aware that I'm like, the 407th person to say it..)
Aww, Leta takes after her gorgeous grandmommie and mommy! :)
71. krissy pants said:
Can you see the faint dooce hand? Just to the right of the picture...it's a barely there but I can see her holding the camera...
Dooce, don't you have a scanner? Or do you just love your camera that much?
72. Violet Beaurigard said:
More snozberries!
73. Molly said:
Oh My, Krissy pants .. you are good.. However, taking a picture of the picture makes the picture that much more magical!
74. Lori said:
You can just tell someday she will be the Avon world sales leadr!
75. mt said:
You do look like your Mom a lot. And thanks for the words of encouragement in your post today. Everyone hopes to find what you have.
76. Sheryl said:
Dooce, your mom is beautiful at 16. In this picture she looks plucky and smart, reminds me a *little* of Liz Taylor when she was young - National Velvet. I think my mom is the same age as your mom.
I prefer photo'd photos over scanned ones. Evidence of the artist's eye and perspective. Presence.
77. Chris From Ohio said:
*Dooce* Time to scan and Dooce-Effect that picture.
*Human Writes* Hug for more Snozberries.
78. the weave said:
How about a photo of you at sixteen? I'll bet you were beautiful too.
79. Amber said:
You look a lot alike! :)
80. jazz fan said:
i am very big fan of utah jazz team of basketboll. i watch game last night and think ms. dooce looks like sister to russian player Andrei Kirilenko.
81. Jackie said:
More photos!
82. Sven said:
YES! I´m first!
83. tw said:
I can see a lot of her in Leta with that picture. Very pretty.
84. Kelli said:
It is fascinating to me to discover little bits about my Mom before she was a Mom. It's like discovering a new person you never knew existed.
I love the picture of your Mom. She does have a terrific command of her self-worth. The picture looks like it was taken a nan-second before one of her eyebrows shot up with attitude.
Keep those pictures coming!
85. Tracy said:
The Future Avon World Sales Leader looks so poised and canny in that pic, it's hard to believe she was only 16. Everyone seemed more elegant back then.
86. Brooke said:
You look a lot like your mama.
87. Randall said:
Your post yesterday with Liz Phair made me think of this photo, and then you posted a picture of your mom today. I hope she's happy these days too. Definite rockstar.
http://www.lilithfair.com/lilith98/docs/dates/cities/chicago/fullsized/L...
88. Nancy said:
She looks like you
89. Amanda B. said:
Yep. Leta will be on the warpath in no time, able to reach all sorts of new things and soon after...walking. You're in deep doodoo.
Speaking of really strange things happening...
http://www.molatar.com/index.htm
P.S. The Avon World Sales Leader is adorable.
90. Hank said:
Babies can no longer be trusted once they can roll from back to front and front to back. Before that you can put them somewhere and they'll stay put. After that they are free agents. I discovered this when I set my older boy on my bed, turned my back on him to get a pair of socks out of the dresser, and turned back to find him teetering on the edge of the bed. I caught him in mid-air.
91. Gordon said:
Personally I think Heather has a time machine and went back to 1961, got her picture taken, warped back to our time...meaning...Heather's mother is really...*gasp!*
92. gladImNotFirst said:
Looks like it's time to remove that bumper!
93. Fish said:
Dooce: that may be your conclusion, but I think aliens came and moved leta in the night.
94. TulsaOkie said:
Rock on Leta.. Get ready Dooce and Daddy... The fun is just beginning!
PS.. this is my first comment!
95. bunny said:
Heh. Heh heh...heheheheheh....
(I can laugh now. MY youngest is almost 18.)
96. wlfldy said:
Pretty much when you had Leta, life as you knew it ceased, Now you just have planes that as you know them no longer exist. Welcome to the 'crawl' plane...
97. JuJuBee said:
You look exactly like her, rest assured that you were never adopted! Not that you were worried about that. Sorry if you were.
98. Chloe said:
I can tell that your mother looked just like Jon when she was a baby! Isn't that incredible?
You do look so much like her, though (go on, say it: "Really? I had no idea!"), especially the eyes and the mouth. Like a few others who mentioned it, I thought it was a picture of you from the thumbnail.
I didn't know Avon was frilly! I hope they are a pink organization as well.
Hee! Heather is her own mother! I love it when someone uses that storyline... I wonder if at any point in the past that was actually believable-- before genetics were known and shit.
Yeah. Probably.
99. Lindsey said:
Um Heather? Do you have any un-beautiful people in your family? What a stunning photo :)
100. pismire said:
What is great about the fact that Dooce didn't just scan this photo of her mother is that you can see Dooce's image in the glass. It is both eerie and lovely.
101. Ty said:
About the post-partum woman. That took place in my hometown. Plano is one of those really nice suburbs where everyone looks perfect and drives cars they can't really afford and has huge homes. It's a tough city to live in if you aren't in that ritzy boat. I wonder if that contributed to anything.
It fascinates me that so many of these stories happen in seemingly "perfect" towns. Or maybe it's just that we only hear about those cases because the towns are supposed to perfect and therefore it seems more out of the norm.
I just can't fathom how you could think to do that, though. EVER.
On a lighter subject,Heather, right before I started walking at full speed, my mother took me shopping. She had one of those sling strollers. She turned around to pull something off a rack, turned back and I was upside down hanging by one foot which was caught in the strap of the stroller! I never had a stroller again after that! And I think I was about 10 or 11 months old!! Oh, and I only crawled for 2 weeks! As my mother said, just long enough to know I was normal!
Here comes Leta "The Lightening" Armstrong!
102. GotJesus? said:
As they say on FARK.com: I'd hit it.
103. LadyBug said:
Amanda B! I checked out that link...creeeeepy. How on earth did you stumble across that one? (assuming, of course, you weren't actually LOOKING for it!)
Here are my favorite parts, from the two minutes I spent reading it:
"This site is dedicated to spreading the Gospel in the werewolf and furry communities. It is my hope that many trans-species people will accept Jesus as their Savior through this ministry."
"You forget that God is generous and kind. He knows our sufferings, and He will satisfy our longings to become *powerful nonhuman beings* if we remain faithful to Him."
"When I go berserk, I pray with more emotion."
"I prefer city parks because there is a chance of seeing criminals and thus I can get more easily frightened."
Oooooh, it just goes on and on!
*Giving into my Texas accent*...That rat thayer? That is sum weeeeeerd shi-ut.
104. victoria said:
The web page about Melanie's struggle is incredibly heartbreaking . . . something about seeing the pics of that yougn woman surrounded by her loving family makes it just unbearable.
105. andrea said:
You look like yo mamma! :)
106. lulu cornichon said:
Thanks for that, Amanda B!
my favorite parts are:
"If you are interested in becoming a Christian, please click on the salvation link to the left."
and:
"If you desire a shape-shift, please click on the P-shift essay link to your left and I will guide you."
Wow. A whole new meeting of subcultures. Another favorite of mine is the Vegan Gun Toter. And a variant of that, which is the Hippie Intellectual Warmonger.
I have strange friends.
Dooce, thanks as always for bringing together the Witty Nutjobs of the Internet. [over-confidently speaking for everyone here] we appreciate it.
And your mom's a total fox.
107. Sheryl said:
Ty, as a survivor of my mother's severe mental illness, I don't think situations like this only happen in perfect towns - I just think that is one facet that makes the story appealing to the press and to the public. When these things happen in poor areas, I just don't think it is reported as often. And it is not reported at all for transient populations.
Victoria, you're right it is heartbreaking. One thing I can't get over is how some people reporting and talking about these tragic stories say or imply they don't think these women were insane at the time. Because the women call the police, or cooperate. The woman in Texas who drowned her children called the police. And people used that to show that she knew it was wrong to kill her children. A person can believe that they are doing something mandated by "god" or another moral imperative, understanding the laws around them, and still believe they are doing the right thing. In the case of the story today, the press is stressing in so many of the write-ups that she was very calm and not hysterical, that they never saw any evidence of illness. Like calmness and mentall illness don't go together. Like people can look at a person and tell if they are ok or not. Mental illness is so misunderstood.
I am not saying that people who kill their kids shouldn't be in prison - I don't know about that. But I am saying that someone who drowns their kids in the bathtub or cuts off their kid's arms is not mentally sane. Period. Also, the guilt that people carry with them after doing such things when they are mentally ill is torture and it is paralyzing, sometimes for life.
I'm sorry, I just don't got any funny stuff to say today. But I appreciate that others do. :)
108. lulu cornichon said:
Oh, and in the interests of full disclosure and not being an internet creep, I used to post as "anna", but there are an awful lot of Annas, so I switched to my alter-ego, Lulu.
109. Amanda B. said:
LadyBug- I know- it's a hoot right?! I love nutty people- they make life so much more interesting.
My husband sent the link to me...I'm not even going to ask where he found it. There is noooo telling.
110. Regan said:
eep! didn't mean to cause a stir, mr or ms ImaD.!
feeble attempt at joke. I didn't actually MEAN HEATHER SHOULD TAKE UP AVON SALES!!! Sheesh!
111. Fish said:
Lulu: How many other personalities have you got in there, anyway?
Amanda B: I looked at your wedding photos and didn't see any trans-species born-again furry christians, but maybe they're just all "shifters."
Dooce: I changed my mind. Your mom looks like Donna Reed's daughter.
112. lulu cornichon said:
Just the two! I promise!
Unless, of course, you're counting Little Anna Sunshine or HappyHappy RingRing, but we don't hear from them too often, so it's really not worth mentioning.
heh. but thanks for asking.
113. Fish said:
Lulu: Oooooooookaaaaaaay. Happy, Happy, Ring, Ring? How the Molatar's Castle is THAT not really worth mentioning?
114. Ty said:
Sheryl, I didn't mean to imply I think it only happens in the suburbs it was actually more a commentary on how it is only reported in those neighborhoods. I just didn't express it well, sorry about that. It's sensationalism. So I actually agree with you.
As for the woman in the news today, when the story first broke on local television, they were playing the 911 call. She called 911. He (the operator) asked what was wrong and she said with a completely calm voice, like she did this everyday, "I cut off my baby's arms." Just like that. He repeated the statement to her, and she just said, "uhhuh." He asked if she was was breathing, and said "MmmMm" indicating she was not. It was so eery. It was pretty obvious something was wrong there.
Apparently, she was also being monitored by CPS because she left her 6 day old baby in her apartment alone, and was seen running down the street with her 11 year old daughter riding her bike behind her mother. They implied she was running down the middle of the street or something else very off. It seemed odd enough that a neighbor called the police. CPS had her in counseling and on medication for her post-partum depression.
CPS is now doing an internal investigation to find out if there was something else they could have done.
Just thought you all might want a little more info. on the situation.
It's just so sad.
115. lulu cornichon said:
And now, because you've driven me to it, the Little Anna Sunshine theme song (copyright, my dear husband):
Liiiittle, little Anna Sunshine
Sheeeee just
Can't make up herrrrr mind
Liiiittle, little Anna Sunshine
What will she do todaaaaaay?
(sung early in the morning when I'm cranky, in the most annoyingly sweet voice, with an aggravating little jig to accompany it)
Catchy, no?
I have no idea what prompted this song, only that my dear one knows it'll reliably annoy the pants off me *every time*.
116. lulu cornichon said:
And HappyHappy RingRing was my name for my first cellphone, that I was entranced with. It soon became my name (again; Thanks, Husband!) and got old really fast.
So, see? Not quite as bonkers as it could be. Right? Er--maybe not.
117. Kim said:
I sOOOOOO thought that was YOUR eye, dooce.
Wondering, how many hits does your website get each day?
118. Fish said:
lulu: whatever. Like I'm gonna believe that totally reasonable explanation. I'm the guy who thought Leta was being moved around in her crib by aliens, remember?
119. Leon said:
There's something disturbingly (in the philosophical makes my brain hurt sense) Plato's Cave-esque about a daughter taking a photograph of her mother at a time when she looks so much like the daughter and you can make out the vague resememblance of the daughter in the glass of the photo itself.
A picture in a picture in a picture of two different people who are the same
.....I'm gunna go lie down now
120. Danika said:
re: “If you haven’t already, you will, too.â€
Thanks for the hope!
I look like my Mom a lot. I have an old photo of her and my Dads wedding... its uncanny. My grandfather also told me that when I was 15 I looked EXACTLY the same as my grandmother did when he met her. She was 16 when they met. I wish I had a picture of her from back then.
No real point to my story except that I agree with the masses... You look JUST like your mom!
121. Mrs.Stray said:
Love old photos like that. I have one of my Grandmothers First Communnion.
122. Danny Boy said:
Go, Leta, go! Wait until your mommy finds that you can undo the straps on your own diaper and unleash a trail of doo-doo right through the middle of the house. She's going to fuh-reak.
123. Nobody said:
WOW.
"Thou art thy mother's glass and she in thee/
Calls back the lovely April of her prime"
124. Erin said:
I can totally believe she is the Avon World Sales Leader! She looks as fresh as a daisy.
125. Fish said:
Re: Dooce's matronly instinct.
My mom used to lick her thumb and wipe smudges off my face with WAY more force than necessary. To this day, I shy away from outstretched thumbs.
126. sally said:
The joys of motherhood...you have become a human tissue. It gets even worse, once Leta starts walking around she will come to you with a loving look in her eyes and wipe her nose on your pants/t-shirt/sweater. At least now it is only your hand.
And, I have become addicted to your site...which makes it hard for me to get any actual work done on the computer.
127. KS said:
Just one step away from the spit bath!
128. Mush said:
Is the quality of your photos an artifact of the camera you use, a digital manipulation, or a photographic technique? They all seem to possess a certain old-school Technicolor feel to them that I desperately want to understand.
129. Amanda B. said:
Howdy Fish. Heck no, I'm not shape-shifting if I can't, (according to Ms. wacky christian dragon lady) change from one thing to another. I might want to be a dragon one day and a chinchilla the next. Screw that.
My mother will *still* dip her napkin in her glass of water to get stuff off of my face. And I'm 31. Very scary woman.
130. annie said:
you definitely have her eyes.
131. George Lover said:
Ok, so no one's actually asked this, but...based on the picture of your mother, it must be asked...was your father or any man involved in the conception process, because the resemblance is uncanny.
132. Lori said:
Wow you look like her. A LOT.
133. Sheryl said:
Ok, Fish & Amanda B - speaking of shapeshifting:
Did you see the CSI episode where there was a suspicious death at a convention of "Furries" and "Plushies"?
Furry Fandom
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Furry%20fandom
Article on the episode on a Furries Board
http://www.furcentral.net/viewarticle.asp?articleid=97/
134. Fish said:
Amanda B: Wait, you can't change what you shift to? What a rip.
If I had to be a small furry rodent, I wouldn't expect that I'd want to be a Chinchilla, though--I have a great fear of being stepped on. Maybe a bat. That'd be cool ... or how 'bout a flying squirrel?
... Okay, time for some caffeine.
135. Fish said:
Oh yeah, since we're posting weird links today, check out this Yahoo classified that came up when I searched for "chinchilla:"
http://classifieds.yahoo.com/display/pets?ct_hft=detailnp&intl=us&cc=pet...
I HAD NO IDEA YOU COULD DO THIS.
Who has the job of collecting this stuff?
136. lolly said:
Fish -
"Who has the job of collecting this stuff?"
Do you mean the information for the classified ads?
blink
blink
137. hayley said:
mush:
she uses the DOOCE EFFECT on her photos. if you go to her FAQ it tells you how.
138. Fish said:
errrr, yeah. That's it.
139. Tracy said:
Fish, re: that link - I so don't want to think about how they collect product for that. I mean, it's not like you can send a dog into the bathroom with a plastic cup and a copy of "Dog Fancy: Bitches Gone Wild"...
You know what's even better than chinchillas? Chinchilladas.
140. Tracy said:
Damn, forgot links didn't work:
http://www.chinchilladas.com
141. JoJo said:
I had a friend in college who's first summer job was working at a turkey farm in Illinois. His job, no kidding, was to extract turkey baby batter from the male turkeys. Apparently they are way too stupid to mate on farms. (I guess they also trample one another and drown themselves if you give them a big bowl of water)
Anyway, every day as he walked from his car to the barn the turkeys would go wild chasing him and making noise. The male turkeys. They loved him.
142. Molly said:
I have a friend with an AG degree from UW River Falls.. She currently has a job collecting Bull sperm.. So of course my first question was.. HOW? She says that they hook the bulls up to artificial Vagina's they then freeze the AV's and send them out..
What a conversation starter....
143. JoJo said:
My friend used his hands in surgical gloves to extract the sperm. Get this, the 62-year old turkey farmer showed him the technique a few times for him to get it right.
144. Molly said:
*Dooce* You have to love that the site went from a beautiful picture of your mom to collecting animal spooooooge..
145. Fish said:
My work is done here.
146. Fish said:
Molly: A ... uh, friend ... wants to know where you'd get one of them artificial, bull-sized vaginas, just out of curiosity.
147. George (not GEORGE) said:
SHeryl, I *saw* that episode of CSI, here's a blurb:
It all starts when a man called Bob Pitt is found dead at the side of a road dressed in a raccoon costume. Bob's somewhat unusual get-up leads Grissom and Catherine to this year's "Fur Con", an annual convention in which ordinary people put their lives as "skins" on hold to dress up as furry creatures. Having extracted blue fur from the vomit found near Bob's body, the CSIs are on the lookout for any furries who might be sporting a blue costume.
Grissom, in full scientist mode, thinks "Fur Con" is fascinating, but Catherine finds the whole experience too weird for words. It isn't long before they find a potential suspect, Miss Kitty, who is spotted slinking down the catwalk of the furry fashion show in her neon blue costume. Kitty refuses to take off her mask at the convention, so she's hauled back to the police department for questioning.
Fed up with interrogating a pussy cat, Captain Brass orders Miss Kitty — who likes to be known as Sexy — to take off her mask. But when the deputy does so, a quiet-spoken, middle-aged man named Bud Deaver is revealed. Rather embarrassed and withdrawn without the support of his feline alter ego, Bud says he and Bob Pitt (known in the furry world as Rocky Raccoon) were "skritching", or rubbing their faces up and down each other's fur.
But when Grissom finds Bob Pitt's semen on the Miss Kitty costume, Bud has to confess what really happened when the furries got intimate. And what goes on at those conventions has to be seen to be believed...
148. Molly said:
*fish* not sure .. Maybe ebay? check google.. they HAVE to be available for you.. er I mean your friend..
149. For Fish said:
http://www.har-vet.com/avs.htm
150. Fish said:
Gee, lets see ... I'd like one artificial cow vagina with a temperature probe ... one without, and ... ummmmm, give me a coupla' them disposable artificial vaginas for the road. And an order of fries, please.
151. Jen L said:
What would this be for if you're trying to get the cow pregnant?
61650 Stallion Condom - durable latex material, 0.10" wall thickness; 12 3/4", 5 3/4 wide at base, 3 1/2" wide at top opening.
152. eco2geek said:
Great picture. She has a subversive look in her eyes. So, here's a link to "Subversive Cross Stitch":http://www.subversivecrossstitch.com/ (there's a site that sells even naughtier patters, but, erm, never mind).
153. Jenika said:
A friend was telling me about her and her husband decinding to breed their dog. The people with the female dog moved though and since it was hard to get the dogs together they brought their male to the vet. The vet slapped on the rubber gloves and started in on the dog. Thats right she jacked the dog off right there with my friend watching. She was really glad that one batch worked because she never ever wanted to do that to the dog again. She described how disturbing it was to see her dog get off on the vet stroking him.
154. Mari said:
Okay, I'm feeling a little sorry for the World's Leading Avon Sales Lady. If she comes here and reads the comments about her picture (which is indeed beautiful), she is going to see posts about artificial cow vaginas and "jacking off" dogs. Poor Dooce's mom!
155. Whitney said:
You look just like her! I love you Heather (in a friendly i dont know your family but if i did i'd make some excuse to hang out at your house all the time to shake pill bottles at your dog and hold your squaking baby sort of way), you make me laugh!
156. Amanda B. said:
Ironically, I too know someone who has had to masturbate farm animals. (my sister-in-law the vet tech) Who knew it was such a small world? It's like the Kevin Bacon game only *icky and yucky*.
157. eco2geek said:
This thread just proves how seminal Dooce's blog is....
158. honestyrain said:
that could be your eye in the thumbnai, dont you think? i mean, you look like her, no? i love how she looks like she's thinking, yeah, i'm cute, so what?
159. Amanda B. said:
Dear Avon World's Sales Leader,
If you have read the above comments, your mind will now replace the words "whack, stroke and jacking" with "kitten, butterfly, and bunny rabbit". You will not feel alarmed nor be harmed by our silliness. You will only remember how we all think you are lovley, and shall feel appropriatly sassy for at least 3 days.
P.P.S. The above amendment applies hitherto and thusly to SweetGeorge as well.
160. robin said:
"I can't put my arms down!"
161. sidekick mommy said:
gotta laugh about the box story. my coworker was decorating a box one day at work and asked "when i get my work done, can i go line my box with fur?" i burst out giggling because i'm 29 and what else would i do?
162. Sheryl said:
Oh my. goodness. I went to a weekly team meeting and came back to all manner of broken taboos.
I too feel a bit blushy toward the Avon World Sales Leader.
You'd think we were a bunch of seamen, I mean, uh, we're talking like sailors!
163. Sheryl said:
Nerdy geek goober sailors
164. Moxie said:
Dooce,
They say small signs on the door are the first cry for help.
Next you will be screaming at John about moving to Sandy.
165. Amanda B. said:
Or standing in the yard in your underwear screaming at the neighbors.
166. LOLA said:
Asked a girl what she wanted to be
She said baby, can't you see
I wanna be famous, a star on the screen
But you can do something in between
Baby you can drive my car
Yes I'm gonna be a star
Baby you can drive my car
And baby I love you
I told a girl that my prospects were good
And she said baby, it's understood
Working for peanuts is all very fine
But I can show you a better time
Baby you can drive my car
Yes I'm gonna be a star
Baby you can drive my car
And baby I love you
Beep beep'm beep beep yeah
Baby you can drive my car
Yes I'm gonna be a star
Baby you can drive my car
And baby I love you
I told a girl I can start right away
And she said listen babe I got something to say
I got no car and it's breaking my heart
But I've found a driver and that's a start
Baby you can drive my car
Yes I'm gonna be a star
Baby you can drive my car
And baby I love you
Beep beep'm beep beep yeah
Beep beep'm beep beep yeah
Beep beep'm beep beep yeah
Beep beep'm beep beep yeah
167. kath said:
"For licking my hand and then using it to pat down the left side of Leta’s hair and then going ahead and using that same hand to wipe the snot from her nose."
-- Well, at least you didn't do it in the reverse order...
I know everybody is saying this, but I definately thought that was your eye in the thumbnail. That is a great photo -- there's so much going on in her face.
168. Tracy said:
Because I too am an 8th grader in a grown-up's body, I had to go to googlism.com and put in "the box" -
http://www.googlism.com/index.htm?ism=the+box&type=2
My favorites:
"the box is a game that has many variations"
"the box is in great condition and the film appears to be also"
"the box is the high for the period and the bottom line is the low for the period"
"the box is preferable to some of the common methods where horses are tied up and severly frightened" (which, really, seems in line with the earlier thread about, ahem, collection methods)
I dig Googlism.
169. Shmee said:
OMG, I peed my pants I'm laughing so hard.
Snort.
170. Rosey said:
While reading an srchived page on Heather's site the google ads were for "1000's of LDS singles!!". Sorry if this has been noted in the past.
171. Different Patrick said:
Someone above asked where the link to the furry Christians came from. I saw it on http://www.boingboing.net the other day.
172. bb said:
you're so totally like her. maybe one day leta, in a brilliant blog of her own just like this one, will post a pic of her own mum at 16 and pple will marvel at the resemblance.
wow, i totally want to read leta's blog.
173. kalisah said:
And there’s this scripture somewhere in Mormonism that warns you to avoid even the “appearance of evil,â€
HA! You learned that in a Seminary scripture chase, didn't you?? DIDN'T YOU??
174. Heather said:
You two ladies look like twins.Your mom is beautiful. And yes, life as you know it is over now that you are on the verge of having a mobile cherub! Stock up on the baby gates now!
175. Laurel 825 said:
She's very pretty. If you've never covered the topic, her rise to the Avon heights would be interesting to read. I've sold Avon a few times (not successfully) when my kids were very small - the first time, 1991, pregnant me pulling toddler and Avon brochures in a red wagon around the neighborhood in summer. Good times! :(
176. Avon lady said:
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177. Danielle said:
so, I'm reading along... and get to the part about the chincillas... and bulls and dogs.
and I say to the hubby, "boy, the comments are deteriorating fast"
and proceed to explain (a bit) about the comment topic
his response "guess I need to start reading the comments more often"
HA!
178. Tracy said:
I like the Googlism for "Dooce", too:
http://www.googlism.com/index.htm?ism=dooce&type=1
It kinda reads like beat poetry.
179. Shizzolantay said:
All over da world, izzle bomb diggity products 'n proud record of service depend on da entrepreneurial efforts of izzle independent Sales Representatives, know what I'm sayin'? Our network of mo' than four million Representatives reaches into da heart of every community – selling Avon families 'n friends in neighborhoods, colleges 'n workplaces, know what I'm sayin'? For each of izzle Representatives, Avon is a global name but a local business – they own business."
Could yo' ass be a Konsultantka? a Vendeuse Independante, a Sales Dealer, a Revendedora? Today there are many words in many languages be like “The Avon Ladyâ€, but they izzall mean one thing – a tradition of customer service 'n a way add yo' own name one of da world’s greatest success stories n' shit.
Our Avon Representatives has spread da word of opportunity around da world n' shit. For well over one hundred years, Avon has offered both fools 'n brizzle a unique chance start a crib-based business 'n make that shiznit grow." Today, 4.4 million independent Avon Representatives in over 100 countries are taking advantage of that opportunity n' shit. . And there is always room fo' mo' n' shit.
Do yo' ass enjoy meeting muthas in yo' hood or workplace?
Do yo' ass want be yo' own boss, work in yo' own time, 'n earn what yo' ass deserve?
Would yo' ass like offer friends 'n customers a personal, convenient 'n timesaving way shop?
Spanning da globe, Avon is da world’s number one direct sales beauty company." But yo' ass can offer yo' customers mo' than just da best in affordable beauty care, know what I'm sayin'? Today’s Avon customer can choose from a wide selection of products, including fragrance, jewelry 'n accessories, wellness products, 'n unique gifts 'n crib decor items, know what I'm sayin'?
For Avon, customer satisfaction is a way of life, 'n millions of consumers trust izzle products be da best quality paper can buy, know what I'm sayin'? They know, 'n yo' ass will know, that we stand behind every product we make
180. Tommy said:
She looks just like a Girl I knew in High school.
181. Tracy said:
Yosemite Sam: holy shit, that's funny.
182. Sheryl said:
No offense, but does someone need to take their medication ?
:)
183. Amanda B. said:
Someone has gone buh-bye coo-coo.
Step away from the shizalator.
184. Caroline said:
Dooce, I'm starting to check back on your site obsessively just for the comments! Oh, and I hate working, so if it's not too much trouble try to put in more of those awesome nubbins if you ever get time. Great procrastination tool. Plus it's also a great excuse to weird out my schoolmates; I keep laughing at the laptop in the student lounge, they keep looking at me, and I keep suddenly glaring at all of them mumbling about frito dog feet, cabbage boobs, and GEORGE (I still am crushing on George)! I think I've accomplished freaking out most of the students that go to the lounge between 2 and 4. Great site! I promise this will be, like, almost my last drunken post.
Seriously.
185. Caroline said:
AM I LAST? AM I LAST?
Please tell me I'm last.
*Just wanted to see if this'll catch on. Maybe I can be the LAST post sometimes. NEW COMPETITION!
YaY ME!
186. Sheryl said:
Amanda B - Hey girl
(You're not talking to yourself there in the 3rd person are you...?)
187. Sheryl said:
Oh, Caroline - it's only midnight in Beantown for chrissakes. You're so last... last paragraph!
Just kidding ;)
188. pssst it's me said:
Amanda B, is it wo*th it to w*ite without those using those specific alphabetic units?
189. Molly said:
Dooce, did you write those CRAZY comments?
190. jenn said:
ha ha- i'm laster.
lastest?
191. Anne A. said:
Wow, before I clicked on the link to your daily photos, I REALLY thought that this was going to be a picture of you. You totally have her eyes!
192. DeAnn said:
You look SO MUCH like her!
193. me said:
Wow... impressive list of strange people your mom's picture inspired... and that is all I am going to say about that.
My son (first born) could not crawl fast enough! Walk dammit walk!! Then I had twins and wised up. Luckily they were on the same page and did not crawl.. did not walk.. till they were 14 months of age. Get down and bless every single second Leta is not mobile will you?
Because the period between crawling and preschool is a damned loooong time ;)
194. Michele said:
I saw the eye and thought it was you. You're mom was a doll...
195. juli said:
So, I'm not the only one who uses po-mom-ade on my kid's hair?
196. Super Turtle Girl said:
People! Some of you have just gone off...the photo, people, the photo. That's what we are here for. Try and remember that.
It's so funny to see that picture...it's like you, Heather, with a shade of something else. It's a super cool photo. Such a direct gaze. I think you got your directness from somewhere--maybe her?
197. HoneyBee said:
Sorry this is so after the fact, but I just found it today... cool site for those who are sorry to the rest of the world for the election results.
www.sorryeverybody.com
Check out the gallery. People sure are creative! (And sorry too)
198. merleb said:
Nice box story.
As for the spit bath for Leta, I ate an altoid outta my kid's mouth (via his hand) at church last week --
re Leta going mobile, yeah, you are screwed.
There's nothing like a baby with attitude you can move around.
199. Sue from Ohio said:
OMG, she's beautiful...and you look just like her...
200. heathertoo said:
Tell the avon lady to sign me up! She sounds like a commerical. Whom-ever is making fun of her should be ashamed of themselves. (Is it YOU Dooce???)
201. Kano said:
I think basically what IMAdumbass was saying in a nicer way is that most of the comments on here are retarded and they look like crap that people just type in fast so they can be first.....What ever being first has to do with anything.....Do you win a door prize?
Then there are the tards that want to be last.
Then there are the tards that make stupid songs.
Then there are the tards that think they are funny and make comment after comment.
In other words IMA is saying get a life.
The picture is nice and she does have kind of a smug look like she is ready to take the photographers job.
202. Cori said:
gobble gobble!!
203. Melanie S said:
Just curious if any of you have a favorite Dooce post. My hubby asked me to show him one that would make him belly laugh...he doesn't think it's possible.
204. Sheryl said:
Melanie S,
Since he's a guy - this is a good one, unless he is anal retentive or uptight about poop.
Thursday, 16 September 2004
A Story About Someone Else's Ass
205. Stacy said:
My favorite is Intimidation Feb 6 2002. Makes my eyes tear up from laughter every time.