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From Atop Tank Hill

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  • 1. Kate said:

    Makes everything seem so insignificant...

    Beautiful! Where is Tank Hill?

  • 2. Doots said:

    Awesome view luv

  • 3. Dale said:

    Sometimes we forget there's the rest of the world out there. Thanks for reminding us.

  • 4. zebob said:

    Tank Hill is in San Francisco.
    There are these wonderful things called "search engines" on the "World Wide Web" which is part of this thing called the "Internet" where you can plug in words like "Tank Hill" and get an answer almost instantaneously!
    It's quite amazing but not too many people know about them.
    -z

  • 5. Daisy said:

    Always has to be one smart ass in the crowd doesn't there? ;)

    Nice pict.

  • 6. reenie said:

    Lay off, Zebob. Could it possibly be that Kate MAY have been trying to start some conversation? Jeez. Smartass.

  • 7. sab said:

    Beautiful.

  • 8. beerzie yoink said:

    What is a "search engine"?

  • 9. beerzie yoink said:

    And by the way, I've lived an hour from SF for about twenty-five years and until now, never heard of Tank Hill.

    Nice photo, by the way.

  • 10. mihow said:

    Look it up.

  • 11. Gavinator said:

    Beautiful blue sky... my son's eyes are practically that exact same color. The blue is so peaceful and the picture is so crisp. You are quite talented.

    Get ready to be amazed because I, too, know about the internet and I plugged in smartass and I received my answer almost instantaneously- zebob.

  • 12. Chanelbaby said:

    At the risk of inciting more snark, what is the mound of dirt in the middle of the picture? Sorry, I mean in the middle of the be-yoo-tiful picture?

    Nice work Dooce.

  • 13. Mish said:

    Good question about the mound of dirt - what the hell is it? And yeah - way too much snarkyness going on here - its not like a hurricane is going to hit you people tomorrow or anything you know - chill out.

  • 14. buscarida said:

    Beautiful photo. Love the sky :)

  • 15. joh3n said:

    Dammit, now I have the "Rice-a-Roni' theme song in my head.

  • 16. stacey said:

    It's a postcard. The caption should read "Greetings From". Well done.

  • 17. Lindsey said:

    Ahhh San Francisco, thanks zebob I didn't know where the hell 'Tank Hill' was :)

  • 18. lissa said:

    The mound of dirt is an open space park called Bernal Hill. Lots bigger than it looks in the picture. It's a very popular place to walk dogs.

  • 19. mihow said:

    I'd like to add some more snark into this mix. That "mound of dirt" is precisely why I haven't yet removed my heart thereby giving San Francisco the chance to claim it. As a matter of fact, the idea of returning there next week sort of makes me want to throw up.

    That mound of dirt is a hill. I live between two of them. They are green for (I hear) a month out of the year.

    (I drank too much Maker's Mark last night. Please note the hangover induced sarcasm.)

  • 20. Heatheranne said:

    That's gorgeous. But what is that big mound of dirt in the middle?

  • 21. Beth said:

    LOL!!!

    Great pic, Dooce :)

  • 22. midwifegoddessannie said:

    what the fuck is a ZEBOB? Sounds like are smartass to me

  • 23. Tracy said:

    Nice composition - I like the one red house in the lower left-center of the picture.

  • 24. Michele R said:

    I am learning all kinds of stuff about San Francisco today!

    Great picture!

  • 25. Liz said:

    I find it very amusing to see these pictures of places I've been (like Tank Hill and the Apple Store in Emeryville/SF)... especially since I am a fool and never take a camera with me to the city. That is a very pretty picture. I'm glad you enjoyed your visit (I know it was awhile ago).

  • 26. Sarah said:

    Nice picture. Makes me want to travel.

    By the way, the comments today are cracking me up. Hee, hee.

  • 27. Mary said:

    That is one of my favorite places in the entire universe. I used to sit on Tank Hill at night when I was lonely and look out at all the lights and across the bay and somehow feel better. What a great memory. Thanks for posting this photo.

  • 28. shy said:

    every place deserves a tank hill. mary - i had past moments in my life where i'm sure a tank hill would have been useful. you definitely are a lucky gal to have been smart enough to use such a lovely scene.

    i love photo's like these...

  • 29. Michele said:

    I Love that city, beautiful picture.

  • 30. Tim said:

    My favorite place in this country. Man, I want to go back. Good thing land is cheap out there :)

    Congrats on the procedure being reconvened.

  • 31. Miel said:

    Wah. I used to live in San Francisco. That pictures is actually making my eyes water. Ouch. That hurts my heart. I hate the East.

  • 32. Heather said:

    I grew up in the SF Bay Area and have never heard of Tank Hill, either. I'm so ashamed.

  • 33. Cece said:

    That mound of dirt is a park?! It looks creepy! I can't stop eyeballing it. It appears so strange and out of place. That must be why the picture is so interesting. Nice little view of the city with a huge mound of dirt in the midst of things. Non-conforming mound of dirt! Ack!

  • 34. mihow said:

    I might be the only person in the world who is not in love with San Francisco. As a matter of a fact, I'm not even sure I like it.

    I am a bad, bad person.

  • 35. tiffany said:

    There are these wonderful things called "manners" which are part of a thing called "society" where you can "interact" with "people" in such a way that they don't all want to "stab" you.

  • 36. owen said:

    well I guess that if I am a sailor then you are the warm gulf wind, and you blown in to this little port and roused may dreams again. tiff

  • 37. mihow said:

  • 38. beachgal said:

    Cool picture, Dooce! I too am intrigued that big mound of dirt is actually a park. And Yay! for naked yoga.

  • 39. dave p said:

    Internet, eh?

    I hear they even have it on computers now.

    Hmm, nice mound of dirt, though - looks like some Doctor Who scale model of a city onto which somebody accidentally dropped a wheelbarrow load of dirt. We just need weird, cheap Dr. Who monster to come rampaging in to complete the picture (maybe tomorrow?)

  • 40. Ariel said:

    The mound of dirt is actually Corona Heights (see the link above, which also has Tank Hill info). I live right down the hill from Tank Hill, and I've enjoyed your photos of my 'hood, dooce!

  • 41. backwoods gal said:

    Being from the rolling *green* hills of Kentucky and shamelessly non-travelled (?), I'm also amazed, appalled and intrigued by the mound-o-dirt park thing. I'd have never guessed it was a park in a million years!
    Love that one lone red house. Makes you wonder what kind of people live there, huh?
    Gorgeous pic, Dooce. I'd rather see funny ones of Leta, though. Nothing is better than baby pictures. ;)
    Good day to you!

  • 42. Aviva said:

    sniff, sniff, I love my city.

  • 43. Suzy said:

    Tiffany made me laugh and she's got great pictures on her site, too. Which just goes to show that Dooce attracts the coolest gals on the "internet".

  • 44. ginger said:

    Dave p if your American how come you know about Dr Who? Dr Who was a wonderful, tinpot sci-fi put together by the BBC which I have fond memories of, but surely it wouldn't be deemed sophisticated enough to have ever been played on American TV?

  • 45. WindyLou said:

    I love the picture, all of your pictures actually. Now I can see why you disabled comments. Yikes.

  • 46. sarcastic journalist said:

    I think the pile of dirt looks like God took a big dump in San Fran.

  • 47. americanbloke said:

    Dr. Who has been played on American television for years ... I watched it growing up on Sunday late mornings ... and that was over 15 years ago. It's long been in syndication here, even if it may be just a little "too sophisticated of a show" for us blokes across the pond.

  • 48. Elegant Goose said:

    Congratulations on the reconvention of your procedure! (That would make a sweet-ass Hallmark card.) I understand your pain, my sister. And, uh, no. You are not alone.

  • 49. Kate said:

    Thanks for the tip, zebob! I'm sure glad I have someone like you to point out the obvious! :)

  • 50. RandyRambunctious said:

    Great pic of SF!
    P.S.- is it wrong that i check back so often to see if there's a new post....

  • 51. Shiz said:

    Is that kind of like One Tree Hill?

  • 52. Amy said:

    I hate to add to the snark but I honestly thought the mound of dirt was a landfill. OOF!

  • 53. kara said:

    Fantastic photo!
    But naked yoga? really?
    As a woman, I can't imagine that downward dog would be much fun naked.
    And as a pregnant woman, any extracurricular nakedness is to be avoided.

  • 54. mihow said:

    kara, no way any naked person should do downward facing dog while naked. but if this should be done, it's bound to happen in SF for sure.

    I've seen some brain slip out on the side of spandex man pants. That was enough. Naked, I'd swallow my tongue. But only my own tongue.

  • 55. mihow said:

    Redundant - See Redundant.

  • 56. Discopitbull said:

    That's not a mound of dirt folks, that's what Californians call their "grass". (That's a snarky comment from a Midwesterner with loads of green stuff everywhere right now.) If you can't make it to the Bear State in early spring you'll see that colour everywhere. I remember being so disappointed that Napa Valley wasn't this lush green wonderland when we visited...in fall. So, were you to zoom in on that lovely park you would see rough tufts of bristly brown and gold grass-like stuff, not dirt. It's weird anomalies like that park that makes photos like this so cool.

  • 57. Aimee said:

    You guys are cracking me up (especailly Tiffany's manners posting) Mihow, I'm with you - SF is a dirty little party town. Not too thrilled with it - there are many better coastal towns with far less seagulls and trash. I figured that pile of "dirt" was manure - since central california seems to be such a cow town - I can't plug my nose long enough to get all the way through without the smell.

  • 58. Aimee said:

    Sacramento is green. We have real live trees and everything!

  • 59. mihow said:

    Thank goodness I'm not alone. Even the strippers find a way to be dirtier. They don't just "lap dance" in San Francisco, no. They remove the panties sit and go up and down dance.

    ...Or so i have been told.

    I am not a stripper. Nor have I had any Bay Area lap dances.

  • 60. mihow said:

    Nor do I find strippers or stripping dirty. I rather like strippers. Just not ones who are also hookers.

    But hookers are o.k. If they're obviously hookers.

    I will now shut up entirely.

  • 61. maxigumee said:

    What's that really big brown lump on the right side of the picture?

  • 62. Kate said:

    Heather -- what's the font in your logo? (Relevance of this post is that I live in SF. It's an SF page. My dog has pooped on that mound of dirt. And yes I DID pick it up. But you know you can't pick it all up. Tiny particles of Lucy's poop are now permanently a part of San Francisco. Huh. That's a lot of Ps.)

  • 63. Lauren said:

    you're kidding, right?

  • 64. Tek said:

    I like the picture. and the cowbells, greattt. what I really need is more Chuck. Please. and maybe a little more cowbell

  • 65. manda said:

    Another congrats on the reconvining of the procedure. My daughter is a week younger than yours, and it's good to know my husband wasn't the only man like him in the world (he SWEARS he is)

  • 66. Kahli said:

    Nice pics lady!

    I am in the midst of a heavy lobbying stint for a honeymoon in SF next month.

    Thanks for the refueling maneuver via your photos this week...heh heh, Here we go....

  • 67. tish said:

    No, but seriously.

    Should a woman with the email address "sassietrousers" have the authoritay to offer insight on anything?

    I'm gonna go with a no.

  • 68. danielle said:

    Dude. You are such a bad mother for actually - gasp! - having LABOR PAINS! And FEELING SHITTY some days! How can something that literally ripped and tore it's way out of your body not be a constant ever-lovin' joy?!

    Why are infertile women taking all of their hostility out on you? Did I miss a memo? Sheesh.

  • 69. Friday said:

    Someone needs to introduce sassietrousers to the concept of irony. Hopefully, with a name like sassietrousers, she'd already be well aquainted with it though.

  • 70. Erin said:

    Why, sassietrousers, why?

    Your mean e-mails have no place here.

    You obviously live in a dream world, and cunts that use pink font & send tasteless e-mail can kiss our (dooce-readers) collective asses.

  • 71. Jessica said:

    Danielle - what makes you think "sassytrouseres" is infertile? Most infertiles are not like that.

    One of my favourite blogs, apart from Dooce, of course, is by an infertile Lady (I draw your special attention to that post, because it is about Dooce)

    http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/921946

    A$$hats are come in all shapes and colours, fertile, infertile, and "childfree by choice".

  • 72. Jessica said:

  • 73. Moxie said:

    The growing concensus seems to be that the mound 'o' dirt resembles kaka. Dooce...you need to move there because SF is OBVIOUSLY hoarding all the fibre.

    I also want to know what the hell is in that women's pants that is making her so god-damned sassy?

  • 74. Jessica said:

    Arrgh, I give up. Who ever said I was a computer literate?? :(

  • 75. amy said:

    Your featured letter from a reader made me cringe.. It is so blooming obvious you are cut out for this parenting gig, you just have the balls to tell it like it is. Motherhood is wonderful, we love our little dictators to death but I guess being honest about the 'extras' was too much for your reader to bear. I dunno, having HONEST insights to the act of giving birth and the fall out that results was too much for her. Some prefer to pretend it is all hearts and flowers. It is not. It is a totally life/body changing event as most mothers are willing to admit. Some of it not pretty. And that is just the way it is. Kudo's to you for telling the TRUTH! Leta is a lucky girl, she has REAL parents who appparently love her dearly.

  • 76. Natasha said:

    My husband and I are thinking of trying for our first child in the next year or so, and I admire you so much, Heather, for not only the grace with which you're handling new parenthood but also your willingness to share it with all of us. Sassietrousers can fuck off.

    (Whoops. Can I say that?)

  • 77. lizpenn said:

    i think sassietrousers is related to george bush. having a baby does not hurt! the war in iraq is going great! negativity does not exist in the world! everything is rigidly and unchangeably WONDERFUL!

    schwarzenegger/sassietrousers in '08!

  • 78. Natasha said:

    p.s. Beautiful S.F. pic.

  • 79. danielle said:

    Hi Jessica,

    I think it was this comment:

    I think some people should just leave such wonderful experiences
    to those who have the stamina and fibre to do such things!!!
    Having a baby is a WONDERFUL experience, down to the labor pains and tearing

    ...that had me jumping to that conclusion. In retrospect it was an assumption on my part, and for that I apologize. Dooce has also posted some other items wherein infertile women liken her to the main source of evil on the planet, so my response was undoubtedly influenced by those, also.

    I've read the story you were trying to link at Chez Miscarriage, so now worries. :)

    My apologies for any offense to the infertile, or any blanket assumptions I had made, as that was not my intent. Just concurring on the "asshat"-ness of the email. :)

  • 80. zebob said:

    I profusely apologize for the steaming dollop of sarcasm.
    As the father of two children, I really should know better.
    -z

  • 81. Zaz said:

    I'm not sure why I feel compelled to read this blog, no less comment on it. Heather and Jon and baby (and dog) have become like one of the family - and I'm just some stranger out here...

    But you know, if I didn't enjoy their writing, honesty, and worldview - I just wouldn't read it. I don't understand why some feel they must dump toxic waste on someone just because they disagree.

    Shame on sassypants.

  • 82. Weez said:

    Maybe sassietrousers needs to reconvene the procedure.

  • 83. Jessica said:

    Danielle - thanks for the clarification! All is cool. :-)

    Weez - ROFL...my sentiments exactily.

  • 84. Kris said:

    People like sassietrousers piss me off no end. She or he is one of the many, a emmer-effin' clique of many, who want everyone to believe that Mothering isn't just the best thing a woman can do--but it's the only thing. It's the only thing that will Deeply Satisfy us and how dare we choose not to and how dare we ever indicate by hint or blog post that there are painful, challenging parts involved? What I want is for people to respect those who choose not to birth a baby. What I want is for people to respect those who don't relish torn vaginas.

    Sassietrousers, I wish mean things for you, at least for the next calendar year.

    Dooce and doocelovers, I wish sweet things for you.

  • 85. Anon said:

    Yeah, Heather, why aren't you drifting about with a constant seraphic smile on your face, your angelic infant glowing in your tireless arms, and a halo above your sweet maternal head? That's what real mothers do, you know. I saw it on a Christmas card once.

  • 86. Kath said:

    Awesome pix as always, Dooce.

    Hey, in my next life I'd like to come back as one of your kids....having you and Jon for parents...and Chuck and Leta for siblings..would be the coolest. And I promise not to bleat!

  • 87. Jujubee said:

    You know, and we know, that you are a fantastic parent and that you have many, many fans because you are willing to tell it as it is with humor and style. But I admire you most for your incredible strength, Dooce. I cannot imagine getting emails like that (and given the vast internet and the vast numbers of nutcases, I'm sure you've gotten more than your fair share) and still having the courage to write as freely as you do. I hope that never changes, because I'm pretty addicted to your blog!

  • 88. midwifegoddessannie said:

    HOO-FUCKIN-RAY for Sassiepants' obvious show of strength and fibre!!

    However - we can only pray for her to gain some common sense

  • 89. rabooka said:

    sassietrousers-

    You must be a lonely hag without any friends. You might want to consult a doctor about that stone cold heart that lives in your body.

    Long live the Armstrong family and as many little feet as their loving hearts desire:)

  • 90. kt said:

    Eh--fibre is going out of style anyway. It's like, so 1990. Depression and other general fibre-lacking activity is the new black. Get with it Sassy Pants, or whatever the hell your name is.

  • 91. Anna said:

    I think you should put sassietrousers' real e-mail address on your website and let us do your dirty work!

  • 92. Moon said:

    Oh...maybe Sassiepants is on to something...fibre/fiber makes you regular...right?
    She sounds like she's got something up her ass. Yeah...what's her real e-mail address. What a snoot!

  • 93. kara said:

    I think sassiepants is missing the whole point: it's the whole package (from pain to poop to tiny feet and temper tantrums) that makes motherhood wonderful.
    Long live Dooce and blatant honesty!!!

  • 94. Lorie said:

    OH. MY. GOD. Someone seriously wrote that?! I'll bet you a million dollars she doesn't have a pre-teen yet. I've been there and done that FOUR times, and until she can match me on that, I'm not listening to a &%*#@ thing she says. PLEASE.

  • 95. Lauren said:

    Imagine what Miss Sassy has to say about oops babies and teen moms. My oh my, give her my email so she can be nasty to me!

  • 96. lolo said:

    Hey sassie - My "baby" is now 19 and I'm still not seriously over it! I hope I never will be!

  • 97. Chloe said:

    I thought that was sassie's real e-mail? I thought about doing the hate-mail like maddox, where all the fans can write in to ignorant bitches/ sons-of-bitches and just generally tell them what they are, and I was tempted to, but I figure if it's her real e-mail, she's going to get plenty of shit, and I won't be able to tell her off any more articulately than anyone else. Probably much less so. But just for the record:
    Clearly, you don't know what the funk you're talking about "sassietrousers". Get a fucking life.

  • 98. kdub said:

    Miss Sassytrousers can kiss my sassyass. We should pray for her kids--with that dysfunctional, judgemental attitude of hers, they're likely to end up seriously fucked up.

  • 99. Sara said:

    Obviously, miss sassy hasn't read much of your website.
    If we could, The Internet Who Loves You would kick her ass.
    Maybe she is the kind of person (mother?) who had her child "trained" at 2 months. Dooce, you rock, and we all know how much you love your Leta even with all of the challenges!

  • 100. heathabee said:

    is it bad that i'm so gullible that i thought that sassytrousers at yahoo dot com was the persons actual email, and i *actually* wrote her hatemail?

    what am i? in grade 10?

    Dooce, you rock as a parent, you rock as queen of the internet and I know that as soon as Leta is old enough to say so, she's going to tell you all of the things that all the wonderful people here have already said..

    ... except for when she's in grade 10.. those years aren't pretty..

    Keep posting those emails because you will see that there are more of us out here in Computer Land that love you, than those of them out there in idiotville who don't understand you!

    ;-)

  • 101. heathabee said:

    ps. i'm not in grade 10. i just sorta act like it when people piss me off **blush**

  • 102. batty said:

    I thought the dirt mound WAS tank hill :)

  • 103. Tracy said:

    Saucyslacks can shove that ignorant Pollyanna bullshit of hers aaaaaall the way up her fibre-rich pink colon. I believe I'll apply a little stamina this evening to wishing her into the cornfield.

  • 104. woman lover said:

    People are hateful and abusive around here. Yesterday, I got piled on for posting a very timely and helpful sex tips. Today, this "Sassytrousers" person gets piled on for parenting tips. Geez, get a life people.

    And yes, I still stand by my statement. If your vagina is out of commission, then put your anus and mouth to use. What is it that you don't understand? When I broke my leg and was out of commission, I used a crutch to get around. The principle presented here cannot be any clearer.

  • 105. pretendingsanity said:

    Yea! for reconvening the procedure. You have the best husband in the whole world (other than mine of course!)

  • 106. trisha said:

    I like zebob. I don't understand why many are calling zebob names. He was being funny.

    It is more offensive to call someone a name than to be sarcastic.

    Assheads.

  • 107. mousey said:

    woman lover, you got "piled on", as you put it, because your comment is one of the most sexist things you could possibly have written. has it ever occured to you that many women derive no pleasure whatsoever from "putting their anus and mouth to use"? It shows that you feel that women have an obligation to service men sexually, which will win you no friends here (nor, I'd wager, many places.) Why the hell should any woman rush back into sex when it's not pleasurable for them? Any decent, caring male would understand this and give them all the time they need. You're probably one of those jerks who refers to a womans monthy as "blow job week."

  • 108. DoulaBrooke said:

    Please, let's all ignore womanlover. He is trying to get everyone riled up and I am sure he is deriving lots of pleasure by getting us all upset. He's not worth it.

  • 109. woman lover said:

    I posted common sense. Nothing more. Okay, so I will drop it and move onto something else.

  • 110. wixlet said:

    i now understand exactly why you had comments disabled on the old version of the site.

    idea for dooce v6: threaded message board?

    i, too, was thrown off by the grassless, treeless hill. and then i saw that magnificent orange house in the foreground. i don't think i've ever wanted an orange house before, but now i do.

  • 111. Catie said:

    I don't know if any of you ahve read it but there is a great short story written about Corona Heights in SF called "Our Lady of Darkness" My roomate made me read her copy and it was fabulous. I've never been to SF but the picture helps me understand how the author could get such an eerie feeling from the hill in the middle of the city.

  • 112. Deja said:

    A park?! A PARK?!?! Dude, how much would Chuck (and I) love to climb to the top of that huge mud-hill and slide aaaaaall the way down? Then the Congressman could put his "anus to use" on that giant dookie mound, and be one happy mutt indeed.

  • 113. Wendy said:

    Perhaps Miss Fibre is still under the influence of her epidural?

    Dooce, I don't have kids, but I am awed by your candor on just how bloody hard it is to be a parent.

  • 114. domino said:

    Firstly - a threaded style forum would be brilliant, and I would pay a subscripion for that.
    Second - Heather, you have real camera talent. More Congressman, please!
    Third - just what meds did they give sassyarse? Hallucenogenic is my bet. Stupid bitch.

  • 115. Susie said:

    I agree with DoulaBrooke; don't encourage woman lover by becoming outraged. He likes it too much. I'm relatively new here, been reading dooce for a little while, but never took time to read the comments before. It's fascinating how "we" can read a few lines (like those from "Smarty Pants"), and be ready to burn someone at the stake. What she said was asinine; based on this one snippet, it appears that she is insensitive and perhaps naive. But that's all we really know. How do we know she isn't woman lover's alter ego, entertaining him/herself by pissing everyone off again? Just observing, commenting on this very interesting process. From the ridiculous to the sublime:

    Still in my thoughts and prayers: are the precious chubby baby feet making friends with the hard, mean floor? I surely hope so.

    And yes, I know "Smarty Pants" isn't her "real" name, but I can't bring myself to say/write that other, sillier one.

  • 116. blondzila said:

    Ok, I've never commented here, but read you for a while, Heather, and think you're talented, boldly honest and a fabulous mother. If Mrs Pink-and-Frilly Cleaver (because of course a woman of her calibre MUST be married and to Hugh Beaumont to have had children) thinks that all of child birth and child raising is sunshine and lollipops, I think she is one of the original Stepford Wives. Childbirth is painful, messy and far from beautiful. The children they create are. So Mrs. Frilly Slippers can go take a mouthful of psilium fiber and crap herself. Keep fighting the good fight.

  • 117. Gavinator said:

    Oh, thanks sassietrousers, I get it now:

    Breastfeeding plus beautiful labor equals good mother.

    Highly intelligent plus deeply loving with a refreshing mix of blatant honestly and inability to poop equals bad mother.

    Rrrriiiigggghhhhhhtttt.

    Where do these people come from, dooce? Who can honestly read your website and not have a renewed zest for motherhood... the good and the bad... because it is nice to know that at times, motherhood is bad, but in a weird way, that is what makes it so good. When something so bad is something so terribly wonderful at the same time, it is real, it is indescribable, it is unconditional love..... and it ain't the crap sassiebritches-who-needs-to-reconvene-the-procedure-in-the-worst-way was even talking about.

    Long live dooce.