Chchchch-Changes
At the beginning of next month I am going to have to move this website over to a new hosting provider because the current company hosting this website charges a lot of money for the amount of bandwidth I need every month. I have tried to negotiate some give and take with these guys but I can't get anyone to return my emails.
So I've been talking with Jon -- that's what married people do sometimes, talk. More often than not we finish each other's sentences and have an amazing ability to understand what the other is talking about when asked about the thing that goes with the thing over there on the thing. I've come to the decision that I want to do a redesign of this site in conjunction with the hosting provider move. I want to make a lot of improvements, add more features, and make this website an even better waste of your time.
Some of the things I'd like to see here include:
1. Search functionality
2. Better/more categorization of posts
3. A daily photograph
4. A monthly round-up of hate mail, love mail, and could take me or leave me mail, and my commentary on all of it
5. Adding back to the archives all the older posts that I have deleted
6. Lengthier descriptions of music, books and websites I'm enjoying
7. A site FAQ section, including an explanation on the tools I use to build this site
Now here's where I talk about the possibly controversial part: I want to try and make money with this website (Gasp. Sigh. Please alert the sell-out police.) This may seem too ambitious, and it may very well be too ambitious as this is a personal website that talks a whole lot about poop. But Jon and I have given this a lot of thought, and generating any sort of revenue from the site, however meager or paltry it may be, would help relieve at least a little bit of the burden Jon carries in supporting this family financially.
I've considered taking a job outside the home, but that would mean that I would probably have to give up this website. I don't possess the juggling skills to raise a baby and work a full or part-time job and maintain the amount of writing I have done here. This website brings me much happiness and joy, and it has been the most therapeutic part of my treatment for postpartum depression. Why not try to make a living out of it?
I've thought about getting a job writing a column for a magazine or newspaper, but I would inevitably be subjected to an editor in those circumstances, and editors always seem to suck the life out of whatever I've written (no offense to editors out there, you're good people, except for the one I dated in Los Angeles who used to proofread Honda brochures, my god, did he need to chill it on the correct usage of apostrophes, plus there was that one time he LOST IT when he couldn't watch a Notre Dame game, and I had to witness the near-choking of the bartender at an Irish bar on Fairfax because THE IRISH BAR WASN'T SHOWING THE NOTRE DAME GAME, OH MY GOD HOW COULD THEY CALL THEMSELVES IRISH?)
Unfortunately I'm not quite sure how to make money doing this. I applied for Google AdSense and they rejected me because of "Inappropriate language." Yes, that's right. Google wants nothing to do with me and my motherfucking fucker fucks, my poops and penile diseases, my nursing bras and engorged, cabbage-wrapped torpedo boobs. Here's what they actually said:
"We've found that your website contains content that isn't in compliance with our program policies. We don't allow websites with excessive profanity or potentially offensive content to participate in Google AdSense."
Somehow I feel rather proud.
I don't want to be edited or censored, and I would never alter the content of this site to qualify for an advertising program. My stance on this may leave me moneyless, but at least I'll have my dignity and you'll have my cabbage boobs.
Here's where I ask for your feedback on the idea of a redesign. I want your input. What would you like to see here?
(NOTE: NUDE PICTURES OF ME ARE NOT AN OPTION. DON'T EVEN ASK. Nude pictures of Chuck, however, coming soon!)
Have you got any ideas?
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301. Amber said:
jessica
Just think, for every comment here, there are 10 more people AT LEAST that are reading and don’t comment. Such as myself, being that I’ve been reading since Leta was only 1 month old.
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I so agree. I never comment but read religiously.
302. mb said:
Cafepress.com is an excellent way to merchandise yourself. And your site. Thing. And a premium site would be way cool. For a long time I thought that was how this place really was and it was all an elaborate front.
303. amy said:
As much as I love your blog I am in the same shoes as far as money makingwhilestayinghomewithekids goes. I could not afford you! I vote for keeping your blog simple, a post, a pic...
Go for the cafepress.com products and post the link on your site. Perhaps do as I do and sell my 'artistic' efforts online on ebay. I do watercolors and sell handspun wool when I have the inspiration (lack of $$ in my personal bank acct.)
You could post your ebay sellers list..
Just suggestions.. speaking for those of us out there that love keeping up to date with your life but cannot afford the $$ to read should your blog come with a price.
304. becky said:
one more thing: you can use a POD publisher like iuniverse (heard some good things about them) and have minimal outlay. advertise it here on your site, expand some of your essays or tell us some more about losing your job due to the blog. i think you could tell some really funny stuff about that without naming names. plus the mormon stuff, coming from a bible thumping area myself, is a riot. i wish you the best and wish i only had an 'n'th of your writing talent.
305. Gretchen C. said:
Oooh, Jane's hit the motherlode. Go out and read the book "Girlfriend's Guide to Pregnancy" by Vicki Iovine. Everyone on earth told me that was the greatest pregnancy book on earth, but it was just too cutesy and . . . girly. If I'd had a friend like you to help me through my pregnancies/births/ pacifier weaning/ cabbage in my bra, I'd have been much happier and laughing much harder. That Vicki chick is married to some million-dollar record company guy, and makes millions off her insipid books, yet you are ten times as smart and ten times as funny. (Oh, she followed it up with the sequel "Girlfriend's Guide to the First Year"). I see a book idea here, or two, or three. You could do a book for each year of Leta's development.
306. Jaia said:
This is yet another vote cast for a book and/or t-shirts. I frequent several Flash-animated webcomics, and at least one of them pulls in enough income from the merchandising that the creators have given up their day jobs.
I really liked the illustrated Making Leta book-type-thing that you linked to a while back. I think that we, as your totally devoted readers, would embrace a several-month-long hiatus from the Doocing if it meant we could spend money on a book by you.
Cafepress.com seems very accomodating for all this. And yes, they do compile books. So you could conceivably do all this without a ton of extra investment.
Keep on rockin, babe. (And yes, you still rock. Anyone who says you don't can suck my strap-on.)
307. amy said:
Just reading over the other comments and saying HELL yeah, this woman needs to do a BOOK! Sign me up for the book, you really do have it in you and I am sure you have already written it. Archives are a wonderful thing :)
308. Liisa said:
Okay...I'll confess that I have not read all of the comments that have been made for I fear that I will surely die of eye-splints. And then my little girl will have to be raised by a father that thinks he can do her hair. But I know better. He sucks ass. So, yeah, how to make some money at this...hmmm...I'd pay to read what comes out of your brain. So would most all of my pals that read this. I'd vote for t-shirts and cafepress-ish stuff so that I would be able to recognize who the other cool people are in my town. And for sure with the taglines!! 'The softer side of cynical' is one of my faves!! (and suits ME perfectly!)
How about nude pictures of Jon? Well, I mean, with his glasses on? I'm just sayin'...
309. Amanda said:
MamaDooce rocks!
I think a book is a wonderful idea. I'd buy it. I know several people who would also. Dooce.com has become one of my daily sources for wit and humor. You can see by the number of comments how much people enjoy and can relate to your writing. I'ts your gift and it makes you happy. (annnd it makes us happy too!)
I like the hate/love mail idea and more pics are always wonderful.
310. Mark said:
"Ask and ye shall receive..."
In my best, most thundering, God-like, comment voice I can muster.
I'm not trying to get all biblical on you or anything, but as evidenced by the 300+ comments all you need to do is just ask for what you need.
If you're having a problem meeting your hosting bills, say something and BAM, you've got people willing to give you hosting. If you're needing help with a mortgage, mention it and POOF, you've got folks wetting their pants to pen a check.
How many times have you heard the "I wish there was something I could do." line when someone is in need? That's generally truthful and from the heart.
People want to help (some need to help) but they need instructions. They need a "P.S. Jon's birthday is coming up and I'm a few benjamins short..."
My vote for the new addition to your site is a "karma" link. "Doocekarma" if you will. And yes I have seen the "donate" link on your nav, but didn't know if it'd truly help out.
Oh and another suggestion is selling this huge frikin' comment section to spammers.
Good luck.
311. Laura said:
I have emailed you a couple times...Huge fuckin' fan. (Just wanted to add to your profanity quotient.) Anyway, I buy NOTHING over the web and I'd pay to read you.
You have given me more than I have given to you...so I can make with money. No problem.
BTW my Daxon (4.5 Months) says "BLAH!" to Leta - I think he has a crush. He likes the older women...
312. Laura said:
Oh yeah...I want Dooce merch...MAKE WITH THE DOOCE STUFF!!!!
313. Lane said:
I umpteenth the t-shirt idea. But I think you could go even further than dooce t-shirts. I'm sure you could come up with some fabulous designs that are oh so witty.
Also, I'm not sure about the quality of CafePress shirts, unless they've improved recently. It may be a good start, but I bet you could work out something more quality (and more profitable).
A new post on your blog is a treat in itself. And without meaning to sound like a fortune cookie, I think you will succeed in whatever you set your mind to do.
314. Jo said:
I check for updates on your blog daily. You are extremely talented! I can be in a horrible mood and go read your blog and walk away in a completely different mood. I have laughed, cried and *felt* with you...as I'm sure a lot of your readers have as well. I would pay to keep reading your blog! I also like the idea of a hard copy of your blog...maybe yearly? I would even consider buying a t-shirt that said "Get Dooced" or something like that. Whatever you decide, do it for you! Thank you for allowing us all a little glimpse of your life.
315. Gerrybuick said:
OH MY GOD!
I actually am reading DOOCE when comments are open. whatll I say? (I hop I dont fuck it up).
ok ok
Definitly Cafepress or like unto it because youve got those greate saying I really want on a t
ok so I didnt buy the Merry Fucking Christmas, but I like choice!
Then theres you fab pictures
and logo thingies at the top of your blog, I would TOTALLY buy this one with Chuck beneath Letas blankie(is that a potatoe chip on the Blankie?)
Ive liked all the things youve suggested, like putting back stuff yove deleted(Ive read it all so far) You are such a beautiful soul, ok youre bitchie sometimes, but that how I can tell!
Love you and Leta, and Jon, and Chuck. Go For It!
The Roadmaster, Gerrybuick.
316. sarae said:
I've been obsessed (the good kind, not the bad) with your site since before its hiatus, turned countless people onto it, and would miss it terribly if it went away. A small subscription fee would be a good idea, but I'm just echoing everyone else: book book book. I'd even buy it in hardcover.
317. Pornographer Friday said:
UNDEROOS!!!
318. Christy said:
I don't know of ANYONE who gets 316 responses to a post in one day, so yes I think you are due some profit out of your popularity. :)
319. wistari said:
hey heather,
don't do the pop-up thing -that would shit me no end!
however i pay the bookkeeper $40/hr to talk to me instead of helping me keep my business in order, i pay the housekeeper $20/ hr to talk to me rather than help me keep my house in order ...i would dearly pay you $$$ a subscription fee to help me keep my head in order
love yehs all Louise- australia
320. Katie said:
Jesus fucking Christ! I'm like the 320th comment - let me note, that I'm ecstatic to have 5 comments at at time on my two-week old blog!
However, my one constructive criticism would be to make the archives more accessible. Those of us who are new to the Doocage find it tough to catch up.
Also, have you considered liquor ads? Perhaps next to breast pump ads? Just a thought, no matter how lame.
Furthermore, every-fuckin'-blog I've ever seen links to you. More power to ya! You should get paid, if only because I and all of my blog geek friends love you to death.
All the best,
Katie, ex-mormon and unwed mom of Kiernan, Leta's future husband (should she eventually develop a yen for the boy-type people.)
P.S. I've also wrapped spaghetti around my dog's nose. Though obnoxious, it's thoroughly entertaining. Kiernan and his dad agree, and how can three people be wrong?
321. Julie said:
Nix CafePress--shirts would be cool, but you can come up with much better shirts than what they have (use American Apparel or Alternative Apparel for sweatshop-free labor). I'm sure you or Jon have a contact in the printing industry who would be able to get you a deal.
Good luck, and keep us posted on what you decide.
Yay!
jg
322. Tracey said:
I'd pay, I'd buy and I'd click. I don't have any ideas but I do think you should do what makes you happy, money and proud. So don't edit yourself and don't change. I love your writing and am a devoted reader. You kick ass.
323. Cristina said:
I think your ideas sound great and I would pay because often dooce.com is the brighter part of my day and few things make me laugh out loud like your site. You didn't take me up on the "wry baby" outfit, so if you tell me how, my first contribution will the equivalent value given directly to dooce.com.
Also, and maybe you have explored this, but maybe you could parlay the site content into a book deal and then you could keep the site however you like without worrying about which advertisers found you too offensive.
324. Marc said:
I'd happily pay, Dooce.
(If you knew what a tightwad I am that sentence would reverberate massively)
Just a simple Paypal button with a fixed $5 payment would do the trick.
325. kathleen said:
Perhaps starting out with just accepting donations through paypal, and seeing how much money that generates? If it isn't what you were hoping, then onto the next plan: and I like the idea of a "members only" section, or that only members (or supporters, whatever) can do the special functions you mentioned. I, for one, would make a donation in a heartbeat - hopefully others would as well - but I know that's not really sustainable, more of a "I'll donate this once and then forget about it" situation, where a subscription would be regular income. Or maybe you could tun telethons. :) With entertainment! :)
326. nix said:
Just wanted to leave a comment about Google... they said the same thing to me, except it was the sex thread on a forum I run.
Who knew Google was "family-oriented" when you always find the best links to porn on it. -scratches chin-
327. toni said:
I read this from the far side of the world, where every american dollar is worth 2 of ours. If you do go to charging, please make it low, and go for the volume thing - because whatever is charged will double on my credit card...
328. Katie said:
On second thought - yeah, I commented a minute ago - a book would be fantabulous, topical, and so current with the blog-o-rama that some publisher's going to piss himself. Publish, publish!
329. motos mom said:
you may never read this because you have a million comments on this page. hey, if every body who commented here gave a couple of bucks that would be a pretty penny.
you're so awesome i know i can't live without my fix of dooce. so i'd pay for it.
secondly i'd love a dooce t-shirt. a simple one color shirt with dooce on the back and one of your kick ass remarks or philosophies on the front in plain black text.
and lastly, you should definitely compile the archives and print a book. Dave Barry (which keeps me on the toilet at my parents house for hours) did it with his columns. he's famous and not nearly as funny, profound or as cool as you. and then you could reach even more people.
You absolutely can do this!
330. eco2geek said:
Coincidentally, there's a Wired News article just out that talks about success selling ebooks on line. So, if you do want to write a book, you might consider "publishing" it as a PDF file and selling it here.
(Hopefully the link will work...)
331. eco2geek said:
It got sprayed with Link-B-Gone! :-)
www dot wired dot com / news / mac / 0,2125,64563,00.html
So there.
332. Caryn said:
There's a guy called Mil Millington who wrote a column for the British newspaper The Guardian called Things My Girlfriend and I Argue About. The column then became a basis for a novel.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/
ASIN/0340821159/qid=1092474379/
sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_11_1/026-
0660827-0424418
Yes, subject to editors to some degree, but my point is that I think you could either sell volumes of old Dooce, possibly unedited, or, since you seem to enjoy writing, you could base a book on your web musings. I think novels are going to be less subject to language editing than a daily published column would be.
Not an immediate money-maker I know, but perhaps something to think of in the long term.
As for the short term, I'd buy a tee shirt!
333. JonD said:
I think it's a good idea that you use your website to make some money. As for changes, I really don't have much to ask for. I mainly just read your posts and probably wouldn't bother with the rest.
As for your popularity, I would like to mention that your's is the only website that I visit that isn't associated with any of my real life friends or any of my many far flung internet friends around the globe.
Keep up the good work, Dooce. We all look forward to reading more.
334. Caroline said:
Maybe you could post a link to a wishlist and then people who visit the site often may be obliged to buy things for you. Kind of like PBS or national public radio, only you're interesting. I've also seen sites set up links so people can donate money, through amazon.com or paypal.
335. Sundry said:
Parroting the book deal here, with suggestion of this hook: hip-edgy-urine-sprayingly funny gir's take on on young married life, and the introduction of Leta. You write so well with humor about your daily life, the challenges, and the fact that raising a newborn is not all wine and roses. And when you write about your feelings for her and the good times, everyone is goofkly grinning at their computer screens. Your voice is so honest, and that's what people identify with - and you certainly have a rather wide demographic. Think about capturing more about your relgious background and the changes you've gone through in that arena if you a book, maybe there are lots of similar folks going through the same process. You seem be such an interesting person ONLINE, who wouldn't want your story sitting in their shelf? Make the book happen ( I know, easier said thane done) and keep your website as not only your place to talk to the world, but aslo as a marekting vehicle for the novel.
My long-winded 02!
336. Karina said:
You have lived here on the internet how long and you've never been accosted by the demons of hamsterdance? If this guy can build a merchandise empire based on a one-page plethora of goofy animated gifs, i think you have it made already!
The Original:
www.hampsterdance.com/hampsterdanceredux.html
The Empire:
www.hamsterdance.com
Go get inspired! And I want a t-shirt.
337. Karina said:
... and a book.
338. cliclou said:
You can offer a program where you link to people's personal websites for a low monthly fee. Down your sidebar, a banner/image/ad provided by the person wanting to advertise their sites will link to them, in a random order, after each refresh. Idea stolen from links.net who did that for many years. And I did click several times out of curiosity. You wouldn't be paid according to the number of clicks for each person's site, but rather for something like $5 per site, and per month.
I think that could work out nicely.
Or, in order to be eligible for a program like AdSense, you could arrange a section of dooce.comto be some sort of magazine (with contributers triés sur le volet) or forum (with registered members). A place to either read more on related topics, but from various authors, or to come, juggle some ideas and see what happens with the crowd.
No offence, I've been coming back here several times a week (since chineseamericanprincess.comlinked to you), and I love your personal site, but I don't think I would pay a fee just to be able to read it.
But I would either pay for additionnal features, or guarantee you my participation in whatever program/project you launch that will help dooce.com generate regular income.
Anyway, that's fun all these upcoming changes. Must be exciting !
Best.
339. cliclou said:
Yes, and write a book too !
340. Nikki said:
Count me as a potential "paying member", should you go that route.
341. cliclou said:
See ?
http://links.net/share/tize/2003/160box/tails/
I do think it's a good workable idea.
342. Danielle said:
Heather- I have always thought you would be very successful shopping around a book proposal about your pregnancy and child-rearing experience. As far as I know, there aren't any true "girlfriend's guide to pregnancy."
I don't know how profitable cafepress is because their prices are so high to begin with. But why not? It doesn't cost you anything.
My husband uses Google adsense and only gets $100 every few months, so don't feel so bad about not getting accepted. I wouldn't want to read a censored dooce site anyway so fuck em.
343. Cathy said:
My best friend and I who read your page religiously were just asking each other why you are not making money (with a book or whatever) from this site. It would be fantastic too if you didn't have to get an outside job, more time to write about fun Leta stuff.
Keep the archives PLEASE! I'm 8 months pregnant with my second baby and they are sometimes the only thing that are getting me past my gigantic belly and through my day.
P.S.-I was one of the crazy cabbage people who e-mailed you.
344. Kelly said:
Myself and about 10 of my co-workers read your site. We discuss it in the hall. "Did you see Dooce's post on cabbage? Did you see that picture of Chuck?" We are all honored that you share your life with us.
I would read anything you crank out. I would buy whatever you were selling just to know that you still be generating your blog.
Cafepresss T-shirts, a "members only" section of the site with a fee, anything!
Thanks for making me laugh and cry every week.
345. Iddy said:
When you're settled in with the new host make sure to make us a 88x31 graphic so we can link your ass!
Say what you want about buttons but they're free advertising!
346. Lara said:
Waaaaaay better than "Sex in the City" so why not do a "Dooce" - hey the world is into real life shows/sites - somebody has to be interested in this stuff - it's great.
My daughter is two weeks younger than Leta and loves looking at the pikkies on the site.
Love reading your comments each time I log on to the computer.
347. beezneez said:
I think having one of those buttons that allows people to donate $ easily thru paypal and then asking for a $1 per view donation could add up to a healthy sum.
348. tyra said:
heather,
while i'd be in full support of you getting paid for entertaining the masses--which is what you do, & it's obviously a lot of work--i do have to make a pitch for bringing in advertisers & the like rather than just charging your readership. b/c while i'd love to support you financially in return for how you amuse & inspire me, i'm still in grad school & can hardly afford my own groceries, let alone yours! if we could make donations according to our ability, & i could give you pennies, cuz that's what i have, and your ubergeek corporate computer-nerd friends could pitch in a lot, i'd be all over that plan. but there are SO many "alternative" products & companies out there who'd love to reach your readership & wouldn't give a fuck how often you say fuck about how fucking great their stuff is or how fucking nasty is the poop of the day... & i hope you can find a way to connect with them!
349. js said:
Oops! One thing I left out of my earlier comment. I think your best bet is definitely in charging for fine-art photography. Perhaps t-shirts too, as long as you use your design sense with them. I probably wouldn't buy one with a picture of Chuck on it and your domain name -- unless it was stylized and beautiful, which is something you're entirely capable of.
350. donnaly said:
Another vote for a book. I would not only buy a copy but I would buy copies for my friends who don't spend all their every hour at work since they discovered your site a couple of days ago, reading every word you've ever written here *cough*
I also have to agree that charging for the site will limit new comers. I love you now but wouldn't have started reading you if I had to pay. Now, of course, I'm hooked. Hey! Maybe that's an idea!! Maybe you could start selling crack on the side to make money! You could give it away first and then start charging once they were addicted!! yeah, yeah
You're a lot like crack to me now. I mean that in a good way.
And t-shirts! Definately t-shirts. Nake Chuck t-shirts!
donnaly
PS-thank you. You made me smile on days when I wasn't sure I could.
351. Cathy said:
Heather,
You are better than Erma Bombeck. If your reluctance to write is due to 'editoritis' then go to a site where you can publish your own book. You are a phenomenal writer and have done more for mental health of new mothers than the entire psychiatric community. Your site is the 12 step program for Mom's, without having to leave the comfort of one's home. I would pay to read your site. I would buy t-shirts. But I would buy books, and give them to every new mom, as well as every old mom and grand-mom. THINK of the poor (metaphorically and literally) people who do not HAVE internet access. You are suffering from depression. Make it WORK for you, girl! Geez......you're incredible!
352. Surfie said:
I can't remember where I read it, but someone somewhere stated that the new "computerese" term for getting fired for one's blog was "dooced" or that the person is a "dooce." I don't know whether that originated from you and your site or not, but it sounds likely.
Sooo....if someone somewhere is already using your TM name for this, you should do it as well.
I think it is a growing problem. I know of two bloggers (Sarcastic Journalist and Gut Rumbles) who have been fired for their blogs.
You could help raise awareness of this issue as it borderlines on legal and is a real detriment to our Constitution.
I agree that the site should remain free. It's a great springboard for other things like a book and products (hell, I would love a dooce shirt with the above masthead).
Good luck. I have a home office with a legit job. If you want to know more about it, email me.
353. Joel said:
Ever thought about sharing your wonderful commentary with a television audience?
354. cee said:
I love your writings, and have mentioned before how I can relate to so much of what you're going through! I look forward to reading your next post as soon as I've finished with a current one!
I think the new changes, additions and ideas you've listed are great! ...perhaps even a new post every day... ;)
I also really like the idea of getting your past writings into a book! They're wonderful, make you laugh and make you cry. I also like the idea of a subscription to your site!
Good luck!
355. ani said:
What you are doing already is fine. Good luck with getting money for it.
356. sg said:
here's my idea: get a job! i know you've had some bad experiences with editors, but i will honestly say that "dooce" is 100x better than anything i read in any paper ever. i would love it if my local paper actually carried a sydicated "waked out marrige and family with dooce" section. actually i would go so far as to say that i would buy my subscription in advance just for that! i would love to see you get a column, only b/c the world needs more dooce.
other than that, how about a book deal? i bet you could take your best 100 essay's and publish them. kind of like a "chicken soup for the fucked up soul" version! you can definately swing that.
i can't even tell you how many friends i've turned on to you simply b/c of your writing. it's fantastic, and a newsapaper column / magazine column (have you ever sent stuff in to parenting magazines?) or a book would be awesome for you! give the world more dooce!
357. Law said:
I read Dooce and the New York Times online. I get more out of Dooce. I'd pay $20 for a year's subscription.
358. Courtney said:
Advertising, subscriptions all seem fine, as well as merchandising. How about a Dooce baby clothes line?
Anyone who would buy the cabbage out of your bra is just sick, but I'd buy a Dooce t-shirt anyday.
359. jax said:
Write a book.
Wishlist, tip jar.
T-shirts, ads.
But very few ppl get rich from the internet - if you do, you can write another book on how ;-)
Hope it goes well anyway - love being able to leave a comment for once.
360. Victoria said:
My advice is to start simple with the re-design. These past few months have been hard for you, plus just starting meds, don't get over-ambitious. Having this site must be like stripping in public. Sometimes thrilly and sometimes oh so painful. The most important thing is that you are sane and can deal with all the responsibility. Start with the re-location and a Paypal button and go from there.
I personally would not buy a Dooce t-shirt (or hat, backpack or thong), mainly because I don't believe in logo/slogan wear. I lived in Utah several years and I love your photos. I am far from those lovely mountains now stuck in a tree infested swamp on the edge of a Great (UnSalted) Lake. I would buy a 2005 calendar of quality Utah photos. Best of luck to you.
361. Cory said:
I think merchandising would generate some cash flow.
There's no reason to limit yourself on what you hock: greeting cards, hats, stuffed dolls, postcards of Chuck with pasta wrapped around his snout. I know I'd be willing to drop $20 on a white shirt with green lettering that said, "ASK ME ABOUT THE CABBAGE IN MY BRA"
362. Gretchen said:
Heather,
From the first time I found this site...I was addicted. My kids are older but I could so relate to what you are going through. Also addicting were your photos and art work. I am so impressed. I work with the graphics community by providing the training they need for the creative software and your talent is truely top notch. You are so damn talented. I would buy t-shirts that have some of your art work on them. The stuffed Chuck sounds great but I am not so sure about a stuffed Little Leta....she can not be replicated. I would pay 20.00 a year to read this. I have spent many a day at my office getting lost in your site. I recommend it to all new mothers. You say what we all feel or have felt.
363. Gretchen said:
Heather,
From the first time I found this site...I was addicted. My kids are older but I could so relate to what you are going through. Also addicting were your photos and art work. I am so impressed. I work with the graphics community by providing the training they need for the creative software and your talent is truely top notch. You are so damn talented. I would buy t-shirts that have some of your art work on them. The stuffed Chuck sounds great but I am not so sure about a stuffed Little Leta....she can not be replicated. I would pay 20.00 a year to read this. I have spent many a day at my office getting lost in your site. I recommend it to all new mothers. You say what we all feel or have felt.
364. Carrie said:
Dooce,
I love your website. It has saved me from countless hours of work and for that I thank you. I know I (and many others) would easily pay to see your site. I have one concern-if people are paying for content and for whatever reason you can't provide it-would that present a conflict for you? Would you be getting nasty hate mail if you didn't update your site often enough? Would it seem like more of an obligation for you and less of an outlet? Just something I have pondered. I would pay good money to see the hate mail!!! Oh, and pictures of the Armstrong cuteness.
365. Ladymomma said:
You can always set up a paypal fund and put a nice little DONATE TO THIS SITE button.
I'm sure there would be plenty of people willing to throw a dollar or two in the tip jar.
Think if everyone that visited gave a dollar.
You'd be one rich bitch.
366. atomic said:
First, I'll admit to being terrified of your idea to post Love/Hate mail seeing as I've written you Love mail that probably also passes for stalking. *Sigh* But shame is for the weak, so ok.
Second, my idea. You know what the web needs? It needs a message board for trying, to-be and current parents. It needs this so, so very badly. Of course there are already a million of these boards out there, but they are vapid and horrifying and people post Accordian and Celo as possible baby names and refuse to use the word "sex" and instead call it BD which is short for Baby Dance which, *shivers* let me tell you, that is so not on. So I suggest you do a members-only pay message board on dooce for all the parents or parents to be that think talking about cabbage in one’s bra is a decent conversation topic. I would pay for this starting today even if it’s not live for months. I’d also love to do this myself, but I don’t have the audience you have and the audience I DO have does not give a rat’s ass that I scored a BabyBjorn in Marshall’s for 1/2 off or that I just bought a 3 foot black stuffed ant for the nursery. If I say BabyBjorn to them one more time, they are going to cut me.
367. Winter said:
I am TOTALLY on board with the Dooce gear. Your mastheads are WICKED and I would love to wear them on my person AND my baby AND MY DOG!!! In fact so many friends that love Dooce that I could buy them for christmas gifts!! My shopping made easy!
368. Cleo said:
I think the pay for comment is a fabulous idea. Some people just can't shut the fuck up when given the chance.
As for publishing the hate mail, totally go for that so we can mock the asshats. And be sure to include their email address. I bet you'd get a lot less hatemail that way.
I could totally see myself buying swag if you go for that, or even buying an ad for a month or two, depending on price. Randy from www.somethingpositive.net asked his readership to donate enough money so that he could quit his job and they donated $23,000 or so in less than two months. I can totally see you being able to do that.
369. danni said:
How about going to a national pasta company. They are getting hit hard by all the low carb dieters and I am sure they wouldn't mind people buying pasta just to wrap around their dogs nose. Or you could sell stuffed chucks so people could wrap pasta around his muzzle themselves. T-shirts would also be a great idea so all of the dooce readers out there could identify themselves and unite and then take over the world!
Good luck
370. Danielle said:
Perhaps someone has commented on this already, but I can't quite wade through 368 posts to check.
I don't know if this is possible, but if I were going to pay cashola for your site (which I'm willing to do), I'd want to be able to move back and forth through your old and most recent posts more easily. For example, if I don't read your blog one day, I'm never sure if I've missed one or not. To check, I click archive... choose the one before and look at it, but once at that post, there is no easy way to click on the more recent one. You have links to go backward, but not forward. I know it just requires that I click either the home or archive button, but it seems like more back and forth than I'd like. Is there a way to have a side window or something that is constant and has all of the posts listed, regardless of if you are reading an old one, or the most up-to-date one?
One other change that might be nice is that perhaps the posts that have pictures in them could have something to indicate the presence of pictures.
Final note, if I were going to buy a t-shirt, I'd want something like your masthead designs. I like the recent one of chuck... but 'maternal inferno' and 'my milkshake is better than yours' were both pretty clever.
371. stace said:
well, for some reason, google has let the bad words slide with our site, maybe they missed them, but if you contact the guys over at http://www.indieclick.com/, they may be able to help you out... plus, you get to pick the ads you want on your site... if you want to check out what the ads look like, check out crowndozen or suicide girls... if you get set up with indieclick, you run these ads that you approve and you get to advertise for your site on other sites, thus generating more traffic....
372. ajd said:
Don't want to deal with a publisher who might water you down? My sweetheart currently self-published a 30-page collection of short comix and excerpts from longer works in progress for the graphic novel he's working on (graphic novel in the sense of illustrated/comics not x-rated), found a silkscreener for the cover, and is now averaging 3 sales a week without real publicity AND without the massive following you have. He's already broken even after a month, so now it's pure profit. Some of you might call this format a zine.
Compile some of your best archives into collectible beautifully designed silkscreened zines on acid free paper or ebooks according to theme (pregnancy, motherhood, depression, life before marriage, best of, whatever), charge for downloading. When the orders/money comes rolling in, use that proof as leverage to get a publisher who will publish with minimum or no editing. I love you for your writing, not someone else's idea of what your writing should be.
Please don't charge for these posts. Charge for anything else, a premium service, swag, whatever but not for the pleasure of reading Dooce everyday. Ask for donations. In fact, start today!
Love Dooce!
aleksandra
373. sarah said:
I don't know if this has been previously suggested or not, but my idea is a calendar. You could make a calendar with photos of the family, or just Chuck, with various foodstuffs and baby toys and just his doggy cuteness. What would be most special about the dooce.com calendar is that it would include the special festivals - bye-bye binkie day and cabbage-bra week and so on.
374. ajd said:
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375. Echo said:
Forgive me if someone's already mentioned this .. 371 comments are a lot to sift through. Cafe Press has a book/magazine option - you could 'self-publish'. I know I'd definitely buy a book or whatever.
I think offering advertising here would be awesome. I'm in the process of opening my own business and I'd love to buy a spot here!
376. maryse said:
look at you! you're like a friggin' rock star!!! how about naked pictures of your husband? just kidding...really..seriously though, i wish you luck in whatever it is you decide to do.
377. deb said:
Forgive me for not making it past comment #57, but 2 advertising thoughts:
1. If you applied for GoogleAds a while back, they seem to have changed their policies recently; i.e. nothing about my site has changed significantly, but I was suddenly approved after being initially disapproved.
2. Henry Copeland. BlogAds. http://www.blogads.com/sign_up_Form Apparently, he pays more per click, and I am certain her is less cranky about bad words.
Best of luck!
378. John said:
Looking forward to all your new ideas. You've a great sense of humor and I'm sure it'd be hilariouos to read your hate mail and especially your responses to it. Also, the more photos the merrier. One other suggestion: an email list to let frequent readers know when you've updated or added a new column/rant--similar to Liz Penn's thehighsign.net (where I first heard about dooce).
As for raising money, best of luck. I wouldn't mind a few fast loading banner ads, but as much as I love your site, I'd wouldn't pay any regular subscription fee. You might consider soliciting voluntary donations similar to andrew sullivan.com (I've given to him every year via his PayPal account and I'd give to your sight occasionally as well). You might also consider merchandising.
Anyway, best of luck.
John
379. Peter J Edstrom said:
sell shirts/mugs/etc. See http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/ to set up a store for free. ..... and when people wear your shirt, free advertising!
380. nessa said:
Dooce,
WOW! seems you already have plenty of input which all are good too but here is mine.
I love your site have spent numerous hrs browsing it and always look forward to the next updates.
You are a very, very talented person not only can you design awesome stuff but you have a wonderful way of writting. You could definitely sell some of your graphics or design templates for sites just like they do at coolhomepages.com or maybe you can design pages for sites like aboutmybaby.com.
On regards to finding a new hosting service I have had wonderful experiences with the one I currently use netfirms.com
Best of luck to you! I wish I was as talented as you.
381. Maxwell said:
Sorry for any repeat ideas, but forget the ads and banners. I'm sure everyone who posted here would be willing to make a Paypal donation to your site a couple times a year. Dooce pledge drive! Public radio and TV style. By the time you close this post you will prob have comments from 1000 people. If we each gave you $10-$25... thats a lot of loot. Make one of those little thermometer charts to track donations. Reward us with some extra posts or Chuck porn. Mmmm... Chuck porn.
382. elizabeth said:
Why not do a coffee table book, sort of a timeline of all your wonderful photos? Or maybe keep the text portions of the site free, and have the 'premium' subscription be illustrated...
Anyway, you are FABULOUS, and I will read your site for as long as you have one, and would gladly pay for the privelege.
383. Karen Rani said:
Hi!
Did you keep the cabbage leaves from your bra? LOL! Hey, there are some creepymotherfuckers out there who might buy them on eBay.
I too, am a SAHM (sans the writing talent) and I am also looking to make some extra money on the side.
Why not design a little clothing and accessories line - you have the graphic design skill. I'd TOTALLY buy a mousepad with Chuck's face on it. Not Jon's though - no way.
Good luck!
May the Paypal force be with you.
384. Lene said:
Love your site - am a complete sycophant when it comes to you (and only a little embarassed admitting it).
I like the idea of regular/premium services (mostly because I have no money right now and would hate to lose access to your warped mind). On the other hand, as soon as I got some money, I'd happily pay for a t-shirt with "the softer side of cynical" on it.
385. Sarah said:
I'm hooked... I'll pay.
386. tlc said:
Definitely dooce gear - I will sign up to buy that! Best of Dooce? That too.
The other thing I was JUST thinking is WHY oh WHY has there not yet been a reality show based on a 'blog celebrity'?
Oh and if you go to a tiered model (some free and some premium content) sign me up as a paid subscriber!!!!!!
387. Charles said:
Maybe everytime you mention boobs and poop, a nearby icon would link to a picture for paying subscribers?
BTW, I can't recommend DreamHost highly enough -- reliable, a very good value (check out their "Code Monster" plan) they know their stuff, and the monthly newsletters are hilarious.
388. helios said:
Yes to t-shirts! - oh please, so fun they would be...and hell yes i would pay to read you - you rock and i look forward to each new post...and leta is cute as a button, but you already know that
389. JB said:
I agree with Ladymomma's idea about setting up a PayPal account so folks can donate to you through your site. I also think that charging folks $1 per month to visit would work. That's a VERY minimal amount to pay for the enjoyment one gets from visiting your site.
JB
Columbus, OH
390. H said:
Yep, I'm all about the Paypal "donations" button. I am absolutely positive that your readers would willingly give you cash as payback for the pleasure they derive from this site.
Also, this has probably been said, but you should link to an Amazon Wishlist. I'd bet that people would buy you stuff, especially for Leta. This would free up some of your money for bills and the like.
391. Beth said:
In all seriousness, you should probably try to get past your fear of editors. Your content would be well suited for many different types of print publications that would probably be happy to pay you. Really, think about it! :-)
392. Lex said:
Well, as usual, I'm late to the party, but I say do whatever you feel you want/need to do. I'm kinda cash-strapped, so a $500 partnership is right out, but a Dooce.com t-shirt might be doable.
Good luck!
393. robin said:
I'd pay. I go to Americanelf.com and they have a subscription for $2.00 a month. You should check it out.
394. Heather said:
I forgot to add...Whatever you do, please do us all a favor and give us a warning if this site is going to be down during the change. I think some of us would have a heart attack if we tried to come here and it was gone. Don't even get me started on the repercussions of Dooce withdrawal!!!
395. mari said:
I have to echo the many people here who have said you should look into a book deal. You already have lots of great material.
For immediate cash, I think either a paypal donation button or a premium subscription would work.
Good luck. I really enjoy the site.
396. tim said:
heather, i've said it before: the sedaris kids don't have anything on you! you need to write and make people laugh!
397. Cristina said:
Ok, so the stuffed animal thing was pretty funny! Probably not realistic (I think you would do better with T-shirts) but funny!
So, back to the "wry baby" thing--I think you could do something similar, but better of course. Very sarcastic, funny, dooce-brand humor baby clothes. And mommy clothes for that matter. And doggie clothes!
When I have kids I will totally buy them a onesie that says "my milkshake is better than yours"
398. Karrey said:
Yeah, what about a punk-rock mom site? You could call it Letafilter. Still run Dooce, but tone down the swearing for the mom site, and get Google going over there, and have membership and stuff.
Of course, that requires engineering a whole new site, and a lot of work. Boo.
399. Paula said:
I LOVE your blog as do all of my friends...I'd be more than willing to pay to read it. You have a wonderful writing ability, go for a book deal if you can find one that won't censor you. Good Luck!!
400. Kristen said:
Simply put: I love your writing. I love your photography. Sometimes, your picture make me drool. (It's not very pretty.)
But that being said I'd be first in the imaginary internet line to buy your photos - they could be of anything, in any size, and cost almost anything.
Same thing goes for when you publish a book - I'll be in that line.
I'd also pay you top dollar to help me design a site with as much moxie as this one - I promise I won't bug you too much after it's up and running! :)
401. slickgothgurl said:
as of this moment, you have 395 comments. i'm bored, but not bored enough to read them all. anyway, my point is that even if you asked for $1 per person, per month, you'd already have $395 in your pocket. i'd pay it. i love your site. i'd even pay $5. but that's my limit. ;)
402. CK said:
More fan mail...
As someone who is considering the motherhood gig, your unsweetened insight on pregnancy and baby-raising is refreshing. Would I pay for access to hate mail and photos? Would I pay for dooce gear? Hell yeah. And, as reader response indicates, this could be a profitable endeavor.
Good luck, Heather
403. Za said:
Yeah, I don't really go in for the merchandising option...seems kinda creepy and misguided in an obnoxious sort of way. Not the spirit that this site seems to have been conceived in.
But I have often thought, even before this post, that I would love to be able to sit down and read the entire dooce story without the eyeball radiation. In addition to paying 20-40 bucks a year to visit the Web site, I would totally buy an anthology of your postings with images and your awesome design sense. Plus I bet you’d have a blast putting it together. A special one of just your pregnancy would be a great selection.
You are well supported here (clearly), so I’m positive you can make this site pay at least as well as a part-time job without it getting weird.
404. bluepoppy said:
The first year baby book of what you DIDN'T expect would sell off the shelves--
I'm sure you have publisher contacts up the wahzoo but I'd be happy to pass along mine and a contact to a terrific agent too, if that helps.
Definitely set up a subscripton service-- and all the tchotke your wild mind can envison--bring it on!
405. Libby said:
I would definitely pay to have access to your site. I hope when you switch services I will be able to see the pictures of you and your family.
You are awesome!
406. Jamie said:
I would totally buy a t-shirt with the current masthead on it. Chuck with the blanket on his head is so cute!
Good luck with whatever you decide to do, I'll keep reading, even if it means paying for the privilege.
407. Beth said:
Dude! I would totally buy your "what i didn't expect about expecting" book!! DO IT! You've got half of it written already, ya dig?
408. David said:
What about getting paid for product placements? Television has been doing it since day one, why not on dooce? You could be writing about a meal you and John are enjoying and mention the tastey beverage you two drank by brand name. Or the type of diapers you have on Leta. If nothing else, maybe that could get some free stuff.
409. The Food Whore said:
I think you should get into the marketing and "how to" business.
For instance, have you considered marketing "The Cabbage Bra"?
Or writing "The Guide To Mormon Rebellion"?
Or "Spaghetti Wrapped Dog Snout And Other Fancy Pet Tricks"?
Perhaps "Fuck Off, I Don't Need Your Dumb-Ass Advice."?
Or "Penile Disfunction - A Guide To Food Allergies"?
Or "Yes I Have Anxiety Attacks, But You're An Ugly SOB, And I Can Take Drugs For My Problems."
I love the T-Shirt idea, I also like the Pay-Pal idea. I read you every day (Ok, I check 3 times a day) and frankly get a little tense when there's not a new entry for a couple of days. And I would totally be willing to donate to the cause. 'Cause I need my daily dose of Dooce.
Because you're fabulous.
410. Elaine said:
Have you ever thought of self-publishing? It's not at all like masterbation. People do this for their family genealogies all the time.
Some companies have a certain number of books they require you to order, maybe 100 or something. I think you'd do really well.
You should check locally but maybe this site will get you started: http://www.lulu.com/browse/search.php
411. debbie said:
okay, maybe if i say it AGAIN (400X isn't enough, right??), you'll decide to make t-shirts? cafepress, yes! i would definitely buy one for myself, my husband, my kids, my friends. and, as i understand it, you only need to upload the designs--quick and painless, and watch the dough roll in. good luck!
412. Emma said:
Honey, I have shit cooking on the stove so I can't read the 7 jillion comments to see if this has been posted but -- seriously -- put a Paypal button on your site.
I'd donate to keep the Dooce flowing. In a heartbeat.
413. Kelley said:
I don't know if it's already been mentioned because there are 14 trillion comments already.. but you could make Dooce.com merchandise at http://www.cafepress.com . I'm not sure how much you can actually make off that since they take a percentage and all but I'm sure your stuff would sell like hotcakes =P At least you know I'd be buying the hell out of it, hehe.
I love the idea of posting hatemail.. I can't wait to read what some of the morons try to insult you with.. buahah.
414. Duh! said:
If anyone has missed it, there's a link in the box of sections of this site that says "Donate". There's her Paypal button/link.
415. Jayne K. Heinz said:
Heather, I'd pay you monthly to link to my site every now and then and talk about it a little. =) I want more readers.
I'd pay you monthly to read your site, too. I think you'd be hard-pressed to increase your reader base if you set up a pay system... but you'd certainly keep what you have right now, and that's a good lot of people.
I, personally, wouldn't much enjoy the pressure of keeping up quality to make money... but if it's what you're doing, and as it seems to come so naturally to you... go for it.
Check my blog out if you get the time. I'll negotiate!
416. RV Chris said:
I love you just the way you are! Don't ever change ... :-) I would certainly pay for the enjoyment of reading you just the way you are. I did use your donate link once, but you write "you don't need to donate again". So, I didn't.
I think if you put the PayPal donate link prominently on your main page with a suggested subscription rate of $5/month, lots of us would do it. Hell, that's just one Cafe Mocha Grande at Starbucks to us, but multiplied times even 500 people, that can be real money to you. PayPal makes it SO easy.
I don't think you want to make it a required $ membership-type site. Although I'd be delighted to give you money for the pleasure you give me, I wouldn't want to be forced to. know what I mean?
Stay away from the publishers - you know what you're doing going directly to the reading public. Just ask us to support it - we need very specific directions - and we'll do it!
417. Jayne K. Heinz said:
Heather, I'd pay you monthly to link to my site every now and then and talk about it a little. =) I want more readers.
I'd pay you monthly to read your site, too. I think you'd be hard-pressed to increase your reader base if you set up a pay system... but you'd certainly keep what you have right now, and that's a good lot of people.
I, personally, wouldn't much enjoy the pressure of keeping up quality to make money... but if it's what you're doing, and as it seems to come so naturally to you... go for it.
Check my blog out if you get the time. I'll negotiate!
418. Raymond said:
If you are considering a subscription arrangement, you should consider getting an ISSN number. http://tim.movementarian.com/archives/000059.html
419. rosebaby said:
hey hey :)
personally i'd skip the salon model of making users pay. but advertisement - seems that's the direction lately (boingboing, coudal, etc). go with advertisers, get dog advertisers for the chuck archives, baby advertisers for the leta archives. the more stuff, the more traffic, and don't charge by the month, charge by the impression.
dooce swag would work. i think. a coffee cup with a poop quote on it ... :)
bottom line is that it's hard to make money on a web site just for the website. maybe you and the cotillion should get together and write a book. (you, heather, caterina, judith, etc.)
you could do freelance design work. however, that's pretty sideways to this site.
i think perhaps you should create dooce paintings. kinda like eddiebreen. that would so fucking rock.
420. Molly said:
Jesus, 419 comments already.... Idea: Charge $1 per comment.
421. jamie said:
Dude. I would totally buy a Dooce.com tshirt.
Also, all the features you mentioned, Heather, are exactly what I'd be looking for.
The hubby and I refresh your page constantly, hoping you have updated.
422. owen said:
t-shirts coffe cups and mugs are so yesterday maybe you should write a book? on parenting, or boobs. People still buy and reads books I don't know why really but they do.
Maybe a greatest hits album? You could sing a couple of your journal entries - britney spears does it all the time.
Or do something like google answer where people can ask you questions and they have to pay you to answer them.
423. Trance said:
Dude, I'm thinking you could probably advertise used Dooce tissues and make a decent buck at this point. :)
I say go for the merchandise - t-shirts, etc. I'd definitely buy one - you have a great eye for design. And I hope you do consider a book. You have a great story to tell - it should be told. There seem to be a crapload of people who'd buy it, why not go for it?
424. Peg said:
Heather, go for it! You have my support in what ever you do. It's the least I can do for all the awesome writing, photos, and art that you put in this site.
425. ereed said:
homestarrunner.com has no advertising. the brothers chaps support the entire website on merchandise sales. i think you could profit that way too.
i would purchase items monthly if thats what it took to keep your site running. actually, i would KILL for a tee so...cafe press it baby.
426. Lori said:
I was only able to digest about 200 comments, so sorry if I'm being a total repeater here...
T-shirts, mugs, and especially greeting cards are all fabulous ideas.
I'm thinking that one way of attracting new readers while making the site subscription-based is to use excerpts -- a paragraph or two for everyone, and then a "[continue reading -- subscribers only]" link to the entire post might work. I'm not sure if you could set up MT this way, but if not, then I think the "daily dose of dooce" e-mail could do the same thing: offer an excerpt of today's post, with the remainder behind the subscription wall.
I would pay on a monthly or yearly basis to read your site, but it would be really neat if it were also possible to pay on a per-post basis (this goes along with the excerpt idea -- readers could pay to see the full text of the articles that interested them most. Isn't that how Lexus/Nexus works...?).
Anyway, best of luck -- I hope you're able to make this work!
427. George Lawrence Boone said:
*Post my "Ten Reasons why BYU sucks"
*Mention how awesome I am every now and then.
*Let me babysit/watch Leta every now and then when you need a break. I'd be glad to if I'm not at work.
*Come visit Texas sometime when I'm home. You can swim in our pool.
*Post my damn picture! Everyone would enjoy the 'stash, don't tell me otherwise.
Have a good day dearest cousin Heather! I'll be returning to marvelous/lame Provo Tomorrow. YAY!
* FIELDS MARKED WITH AN ASTERISK ARE REQUIRED.
PS... I'm a pretty good artist, I could help with t-shirts? Baby bibs? Other marketable crap?
PPS... RETURN MY EMAIL! LOUD NOISES! CAPS-LOCK!
428. Peter said:
Heather,
Good luck taking the step. You definitely have a good reader base.
Whatever you do, PLEASE DON'T ALLOW FOR FLASHING OR ANIMATED ADVERTISING.
Sorry for screaming.
429. Erin said:
Dooce.com onesies for the cynical baby?
I would buy a t-shirt. I would pay to read it. I second the book, magazine, newspaper ideas too. You can DOoce it! ;)
430. audrey said:
could you perhaps gather some of your writings from the site into a book of some sort? I'd buy it. And I love the baby pics.
431. Nancy said:
two words: banner ads: look at how many people read your site...why not allow ppl to advertise on here ?
432. sprizee said:
See, here's the thing. People would pay to read your site so I say charge people. You're funny and entertaining enough to deserve some cash in return. Whether that's setting up a site that requires a username/password for access or what I'm not sure but whatever it ends up being, I'll sign up. You're worth it.
P.S. Write a book. I'm sure lots of folk would buy it. I would.
433. sprizee said:
P.P.S. Duuuude, the t-shirt idea is awesome. I'd buy one*.
*Assuming of course it was a cool fitted girly t-shirt and not some ugly ass Hanes Her Way tent of a shirt. And if that was the case I'd still buy one but I'd give it to my husband.
434. traci said:
i love the photos on your site, as well as the profanity, of course. it's what i come here for. that and the sarcasm... there's no such thing as too much of that. i'd shell out some cash to get my fix... especially if it were voluntary and as easy as clicking a paypal button.
i'd also love some doocey-type gear.
435. Michie said:
I would pay to read your site, don't have to think twice about that ... the only blog I read that I would pay for in fact. I would like to do it all at once ... like a yearly sub? Say 50 bucks a year maybe? Then folks could pay out over the year or make one payment. This is just how I would like to see it but I will pay how much and what way that you ask ... many thanks for all your goodness.
436. goodsnake said:
If you can get 432 comments on a post you sure as hell can get people to pay to read your site. Make it approximately the cost of a magazine subscription, except we get new material more than once a month.
The negative on charging your readers is that they will expect more content, unless the price paid is pretty minimal. Of course you won't get as many hacks reading your site if they have to pay to read it. Which might reduce the amount of hate mail you recieve.
From a business perspective, I do not feel you can get any type of advertising because then they feel they can somewhat control the content and that is not what Dooce.com is about, IMHO.
Heather, I wish you all the best. I have been reading this site for a year now and it is the most inspirational website I read. You make people think outside the box and in the process accept their difficulties and the difficulties of others. I admire where you are at in life. Thanks for sharing it with me.
437. Kat said:
I'm not sure if you truly have an inkling of how talented you are - don't ever sell yourself short. People, including me, will pay to read your site if that's the way you decided to go. You make my day on a regular basis and your honesty regarding your depression has helped me and many feel like we are not completely alone and not total social fuck-ups. Your site is the first thing I look at every day when I logon - it's why the internet rulz.
438. Barb said:
I agree with those who said you should write books, you sure have a way with words.
439. Libby said:
I'd love a search function to look for a specific post, more photos, and more archives. I'd also like a back/forward button for easier access to other posts instead of having to click on the archives to see yesterday's entry. I don't know that I'd want to see hate mail, because that would probably infuriate me. Also, people might be tempted to write something nasty just to get recognition.
I am amazingly frugal, yet I'd happily invest to back you to self-publish a book (because I'd like to be rich too!) I'd back cards of a spaghetti-snouted Chuck, and buy them.
Dooce, you rock.
440. zchamu said:
Got some sleep, had a drink, more ideas.
I don't think that charging folks for content that's free now would work. If nothing else, it would make it very difficult to get new folks hooked on Dooce, so the user base would sink. However, charging folks for extra content might just work.. sort of on the TotalFark model (main page free, TF $5 a month for all submitted articles plus some other extras). I pay for that, mainly because I spend so much damn time on that site that I felt I really should start carrying at least a share of the bandwidth charges.
Another thing that might be a hideous idea but might bring folks in would be message boards that could be used by members. Get some volunteer mods to weed out the fucktards, then let folks rip. Might cut down on the vicious emails, too.
And the SuperMut underoos, of course.
441. Alex said:
Your ideas all sound spectacular! Perhaps for making money do the small business ad idea that louisegyrl suggested, maybe sell some of your own things through a store. You seem to be great at taking photos and perhaps even like a self-made zine/small book of like 'the best posts' would be an interesting item to buy. Perhaps when cleaning up the archives put aside all of your favorite posts, compile them into a sort of book/zine, and then remove them from the site and let the public buy them! I know I'd definitely buy a book/zine whatever of yours, you are a great writer and amusing to boot! To be honest, though, charging visitors to view certain content isn't the best idea because it limits uses and I, for one, think personal pay sites suck! Also some hosts you could possibly look into are www.netrillium.com, I use them and they have been great so far, and also fellow bloggers http://twistybot.com/ and http://glassed-tears.com/.
442. Sarah said:
Off topic: I saw you on the Washington Post today in the story about the Capitol Hill blogger. Good job!
443. jen said:
hey there,
I immensely enjoy your site, and have been reading it (yes, daily...including archives) for the past 6 months or so.
I would pay $10/yr to read it and would love more photos, and other goodies mentioned above.
If you are considering doing a book, but don't want to go the traditional route for finances or censorship or whatever, here is a great resource for self-publishing:
http://www.booklocker.com
This is a very author-friendly publisher (I've been reading her Writer's Weekly zine for about 4 years and can vouch for their great business ethics), where you can print on demand, and set up the printing process for a very small fee (something like $200) and design your own cover and layout...which we all know you'd do great at.
Good luck with all and can't wait to see what unfolds!
444. Wicked H said:
Kudos Dooce!!! Great article in the Washington Post Magazine. I am sure you will come up with a money-making venture.
445. Christine said:
I'd pay for dooce.com. xo
446. swimp said:
Woh, I knew this site was hot but g'damn, 440 comments on a single post is a bit overstating it :)
447. Elisa said:
Right now I'm DROOLING over the idea of a "Dooce: The Softer Side of Cynical" t-shirt. As a matter of principle, I don't wear t-shirts with logos and I don't buy from the internet, but for you I'll trash the principles.
PLEASE.
448. 'nee said:
Basically, most people who say they'll pay to read the site are lying. They think they will, but they won't. Lots of sites go out of business this way. Attracting new customers is of course a huge problem when you require subscription.
Look at the site as an advertisment for other things. What are those things?
Well, merchandise is the best suggestion by far, as long as it's well-thought-out and well-designed, which I'm sure it would be given your formidable skills in that area. However, places like CafePress.com take their pound of flesh so it tends to be prohibitively expensive and also low-profit for end seller.
Pay-per-use areas are good, but don't generally pan out. Meighan.com tried it, and a few other high-profile blogs, and it usually doesn't fly -- unless it's porno, of course.
I think the book suggestion is a great one. Definitely shop some publishers, or self-publish. Wil Wheaton got a book deal beacuse 5000 copies his self-published book sold out in a record two weeks.
449. Allison said:
Sell stuff YOU think is cool and chances are you will get a nice little cult following buying your stuff. Example - I LOVED the "Benevolent Dictator" t-shirt you had on Leta and was dead jealous...I would have snatched one of those up for my wee girl.
450. JAG said:
Been reading your site for years. Love it! I, too, agree with the book deal/print comments - huge seller, I would think.
While I would probably buy a t-shirt, mug or mouse pad, I really like the calendar idea someone suggested earlier. Could offer several versions - one with Leta, Chuck, Jon and Dooce pics and maybe one with your beautiful Utah scenery photos. I'd buy that.
Maybe a subscription only postcard section of your photography?
451. stacey said:
the gawker group of web sites could use a mom/family web site written in the gawker-esque snarky tone. you could do that. you are an amazing writer, with the right edge. pitch them the idea of a blog and take their salary to be editor-in-chief when they green-light it.
452. christine said:
Nope. Not lying. I don't lie. I would pay to read dooce.
453. Juliet said:
You rule, Heather. I strongly recommend seeking out a book deal, then a reality show deal, then a screenplay for a Lifetime special movie. Okay, not Lifetime, but definitely the book and I can tell you right now I would be GLUED to the reality show :). Think big. You are very talented and there is no reason on earth you can't make lots of cash from this site. That said, I hope we never meet IRL because I would be too embarrassed after having poured out my feelings like this.
454. Juliet said:
P.S. I think you should focus potential merchandising concepts on babywear. I don't wear a lot of t-shirts but would put a "Softer Side of Cynical" T on dd (7 mo) in a heartbeat.
455. lesaa said:
I love your website. our babies are about two months apart. sometimes you are the only thing keeping me from losing it. I would totally buy sarcastic baby onesies & bibs. You have a gift for that sort of thing!! Good luck with whatever you decide!! More pics of Leta would be awesome. she is so cute!!
456. diane said:
I have no problem with the idea of paying for my daily dooce fix. However, being a poor student, I probably wouldn't be able to afford the $50 someone mentioned above. Depending on the amount of work involved, a book would be just the thing.
Best wishes to you & yours!
457. Minla said:
I would pay $10 a year to come read your site. I would also buy a pack of Dooce designed notecards. Maybe with some funny dooce quotes on the other side?
458. annie said:
I want a fucking Dooce.com T-Shirt right NOW!!! And another that has a picture of a bra on it.... with cabbage sticking out of it.... GO DOOCE!!!
459. Ashley said:
Heather,
Try reading Erma Bombeck,She writes like you would have written had you been a housewife in the sixties. My point is this, ok, curb a bit of the profanity(or not) and write a book. Mothers everywhere love reading your stuff, And normal people too!
Be well,
Ashley
P.s. Tshirts are an excellant idea, I would totally walk around with dooce.com acrossed my chest!
460. Tammy said:
Please don't make this a pay site. With the kind of traffic you get, you should be able to sell advertising space for a good sum instead. And the merchandising idea is a good one too. Of course, you could always just ask your readers for donations a little more prominantly then you do now. I am much much more willing to give money as a donation rather than by force (subscription.)
Thanks for the rant.
461. heathabee said:
I would TOTALLY subscribe to your site even if it was pay-access only. You're like my porn. haha. I always love your layout changes, and more pictures of baby and puppy are always so much fun to look at! so i definitely wish you luck, and i'm sure you'll do great! :)
take care!
462. aibee said:
I'd totally buy a dooce book, wear a dooce t-shirt, and drink coffee from my dooce coffee mug.
You know though, if you charged us nominal fee of, like, five bucks a year, you'd be an instant squillionaire.
But.
I want a dooce t-shirt so screw that nominal fee idea, k?
463. Lissa said:
You can sell your promo stuff i.e. t-shirts, etc. thru AVON!!!
Do the book, then we'll get you a movie deal
Supa-STAAH!
464. Keith said:
Honestly, I check your site way more than i should--i'm probably a big part of your bandwidth problem. I'd pay to get specialized content--maybe an email newsletter with columns just for the paying masses? you might also consider selling ad space to BYU--i'm sure they'd jump on it. :)
465. Eli said:
As one of the few people who pay for .mac services from Apple, I understand the importance and value of paying for a good (scratch that) great thing. I would jump at the chance to be an official memeber of dooce.com. Not to mention a t-shirt or poster or book or whatever.
You rock and I would buy just about anything you could market. Have at it!
(And I like all the proposed changes... Sounds exciting!)
466. Eli said:
P.S. An RSS feed so I can check out what is going on in this neck of the Blurbodoocery woods from my mobile phone would be great too.
I have to agree with Keith. I am probably a huge part of your bandwidth problem... I go through withdrawls every time you don't post for more than four days.
467. Leigh said:
Since I began reading your site, I keeping saying ...Dooce needs a book deal. You are more talented than 99.9% of the writers out there !
Until then...I would support having an ad for my business on your site...maybe in Chuck's archives, since I specialize in contemporary dog portraits.
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with !
468. Eli said:
P.P.S. A book on your pregnancy and birthing and rearing of Leta would be a keeper for prospective parents and couples... Yeah I am Mormon, still single, and waiting to go on a mission, but I would pay $30 for a "Dooce Guide for First Pregnancies" for when I get married. Some of the posts were real eye openers, but I don't think I ever looked forward to having a kid more than this before having read them...
I will shut up now. Sorry.
469. Laurel825 said:
As strong as your writing is, it's your photography skills, along with the captions, that keep me coming back. One of the funniest being "A Year In Heather's Hair". Calendar idea.
470. Virginia said:
Heather,
I like the idea, and I will definitely pay you to keep writing! But, for a monthly fee or something like that, I sadly wouldn't do it.
I just had this brainstorm of having a yearly fee of a minimal amount - say $20 or so. Only those that pay or have a password can access it. Also, if you go that route, you could offer a certain day preview period - to entice newcomers...
Let us know if you shut down during redesign!
Goodluck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Virginia
471. Suzette said:
I would pay for your site. I enjoy reading it daily. You could possibly make a little money if you linked to other websites(ex. I pay a buck a month to have you link my site).
I would also LOVE to read the hate mail you get. I would pay for that.
472. Brent S said:
Like everyone else has said...shop yourself for a book deal. You already have the content. Someone will pick it up and they will make a lot of money.
Don't be satisfied with just a compilation of blog entries. Pick the best pictures and have them printed on photo paper inside the book. Have the -ing's in the book to give a nostalgic way of giving timeframes. You can create a whole new idea for a book with this.
I'd pay $40 for it. And I'd buy it for friends. And I'm a broke college student.
473. Liz said:
I'm all for revamping sites, I work on several sites of my own that go through almost quarterly changes depending on my mood and what I've been inspired by from other sites I've seen.
As far as making money, I'm all for merchandising. T-shirts, stickers, selling graphics/templates or stock photography, etc. What about using your fame and knowledge to start a blogger e-zine and then sell advertising space to companies and memberships to readers? That way you can be writing but still be in charge of the topics.
Just my thoughts.. your site always has inspired me.
474. Dave said:
I hope this doesn't sound mean, but I and about 3 million other bloggers fantasize about your popularity. If I got the traffic you do, I'd do anything to sustain it. I don't understand much about marketing, but I can't imagine a single banner ad (like Drudge) wouldn't take care of bandwidth and give you a generous bit of pocket change. If it's fee only, I'll find another parent to commiserate with. Good luck.
475. Liz said:
I just read the post about the Dooce birthing book idea. Was thinking a 'how to' book like the for Dummies ones would be fun, could call it "Dooce for DumbAsses" LOL.
476. clafina said:
Yep, I am also one of those who also read your site - from the caribbean, and have never posted before - and would be willing to subscribe or sponsor merchandise,just to keep reading your blog.
As for the ongoing t-shirt idea (hey, lots of people are already in line for them!), I think you have some wonderful entries which would make great quotes and could have your dooce.com adress printed somewhere. Like Annie comment #458!!!!
lots of luck!
claudia
477. karen said:
can i say another boring comment like 'i love your blog so much i actually have discussions with friends re your latest blog entry'? but i do. makes me laugh and thoughtful and bitchy.
um. re suggestions on money making...actually i dont have any more fresh ideas, or ideas that others havent thought of first. but cards and tshirts sound cool. and considering the volume of readers that you have (those who love and hate you), ads is a good option.
478. slim said:
I like ALL of your ideas for the site. I don't see anything wrong about trying to make a living at it. I would suggest maybe attacking it from a lot of angles with as little risk as possible and hope for the best. As others have suggested:
1. Ask for a yearly donation from readers. I think you'd have better luck getting a low fee from a lot of people rather than a higher fee from fewer people. Just a thought. Maybe a page that lists the name of donors with links to their blogs.
2. T-shirts
3. Ads
How did mighty girl's T-shirts work out? Maybe she would be someone to bounce some of this stuff off of. Good luck.
479. Dee said:
Right there with you --- but you have to write daily! I did the suggestions offered (would buy a t-shirt LOL)...and will support your decisions :)
480. KIm said:
I'd buy a tshirt or a wonderfully designed coffemug. Can't you link to cafepress or something like that? I'd donate (like on thenorm.com. I'd ignore the ads.
Whatever you do - don't stop - write more. You write what I feel and don't have the brains to put so eloquently. I Laugh out loud all the time reading your blog. Just call me "dooced"
481. The Former Inmate said:
I actually like that idea in #478 where you have a list of donors. But how about you take it further by appealing to the human need of peer recognition? I have no clue how hard it would be to implement, but how about actually giving people a status within the site that is linked to how much they post/donate? Then of course the person would need to register with the site, or you could just assign the status based purely on a name-match....you and Blurb are the code monkeys, you can figure it out best. I'm thinking that if it works for Amazon, why not here? I bet a lot of people would like their posts to say "Top 50 Donor" or "Top 10 Poster". You get the idea.
482. Bill and Tracie Williams said:
I would not like to see you leave the site on the side of the info highway, I don't know what I would do. I might even go to some high bridge and see if I can spot any jumpers, then come home to my cozy chair and remote and watch for the replay on TV.
1. Amazon.com book store links. You get money when poeple buy books through your site.
2. Ebay items for sale. My sister, raising 3 young boys has made of $2k in one month spare time since I got her hooked up on ebay back in 99.
3. Sale Phote prints and framed prints. You've got some nice ones.
4. Auction off argument you will start with Jon without his knowing it and then post the response. Think of it as "Reality Blogging".
5. Become a member of Elance.com and develope websites out of the home. Big expensive ones. Get the grunt work done in India for $10/hour, you charge $90 and Project Manage and QC the work over on this end.
Let me know how things go and good luck. Don't shut down Dooce.com
Bill
483. ranae said:
cafepress.com allows you to upload your own images and create products like tshirts or cups or even thong underwear with your own design on it. you set the price, then make the difference between that price and their set price...there is no inventory involved so you can't take a loss. with the photography you guys both produce you could do really well with no monetary risk...i would by a tshirt with pasta on chucks nose or a mug with a pretty picture on it and i bet a lot of other people would too. check it out!
484. ranae said:
sorry..i'm an ass i didn't read the other suggestions to see 20000 other people already suggested cafepress
485. Lisa said:
Hi,
I love your writing and certainly support your trying to make money off the site. However, I would have to say that I couldn't afford to pay a subscription fee. I think that there have been some wonderful ideas listed here. I especially like the idea of getting baby bjorn or nikon or some of the other products you have promoted to pay you or advertise on your site. I'm 20 weeks pregnant with twin boys and look to your site for support and a reality check as to what is to come, also for a good laugh and for cute Leta pics. Would hate to lose the site totally because of subscription fee, but hope you find another way to make money off all of your talent, work and dedication with this site.
486. Evelyn said:
Heather, I agree that selling ads to small businesses for prices they can afford is the way to go. Just take a look at the fabulously successful A WORD A DAY daily email post to its world-wide list of subscribers. There are always several small paid text ads at the bottom of the daily-new-word email post, and the ads are humorous, tempting and interesting! They must be making money for the advertisers, because their ads Don't Go Away!
Seriously, target businesses that sell baby-related items to start, items that have made a difference in your family's life, and more inspiration will follow!
And remember to create your Federally-required business bookkeeping system, and treat the venture as your sole proprietorship business, paying quarterly income taxes, right from the start. That will save needless headaches later. The bookkeeping system needed for such a small business is simple and straightforward. Be sure to save all your receipts, as you will be deducting all of your expenses.
Also, I would pay an affordable small fee to be a "premium" member of your site, if expanded content were there.
You are an inspiring and honest writer and a voice that our society needs to hear . . . uncensored!
Evelyn
in West Suburban Philadelphia
487. Lindsey (again) said:
Oh sweet jesus woman, for the love of god please warn us if the site is going to be down during the 'changes' I don't think I could go on w/out my daily dose of 'dooce-ness'
488. Kat said:
Heather,
I just want to say how much I love reading your site. I think it would be an awesome idea to take some of your posts and bundle it into a book. In fact, I got hooked on your site when a friend of mine found your site and how you were talking about being pregnant (like she was at the time) and told me to read it. Why don't you bundle your memoirs of being pregnant? It would definitely sell!
Anyway, keep writing. I look forward to your posts every morning when I get into work. I wish I could be even half as funny as you are!
489. The Emailing L said:
All of the ideas above are great. I can totally understand the need for money, and, to that, the desire to not want to censor yourself. Cafepress is a great idea. I'd so buy dooce shirts. You're a *wonderful* photographer. You might want to try going to www.deviantart.com, setting up an account, and sell prints of your photography. The whole tutorial idea, for some of your web skills is also a great idea. I'm sure we'd all love to feel the frustrations of tables!
490. cpr said:
I'm not positive, but at this moment in time, I feel I don't feel it's the right to make readers pay for blogs. If it's necessary for a second income, probably better to get a regular job as a staff writer, or get a book deal based on your blog stories. And if you would like to continue your blog as your fans would hope, perhaps just writer fewer entries so that you would have time for them and not have to close the blog. Perhaps a once a week blog. For some reason in my mind I don't have a problem buying a book of NEW stories, but I don't feel right paying for online blog entries. Don't know why. Maybe because a book is tangible, I can read it when I want, I can re-read it, it won't dissapear, it's just more enjoyable reading real books than online, etc... You could be the next David Sedaris! Your site has a refreshingly simple, clean, uncluttered, non-flashing look to it; I'd hate to see it all mucked up with stuff/ads. I love your writing though and would hate to see it go away. Your baby is so cute. She will have a full appreciation of her mother one day when she reads this. Not many people get so much insight into their parents, or get to think of them as "real people". I think it's neat. Thanks, cpr.
491. batty said:
As one of your (many) fans, I'd support dooce.com by buying the tshirt, photos turned into postcards, dooce bumper stickers, badge buttons or even just by clicking some ad links (though blogs ads would be better than google-type ads!). I really like the idea of subscriptions too, perhaps members could access all the extra features you want to add while everyone else gets to read text only entries? That would be cool. Then again, perhaps all you need is a Paypal button. I'd donate to the "dooce needs another cabbage fund" :)
492. acey said:
Hurray for finding a way to do something you love while still being able to be around to raise your baby! I don't have any new ideas, but I'm hoping that one of them works out for you.
493. eb said:
Dooce, I'm there with the cash if you try to make a living at this. Keep the words a'comin.
494. Anne said:
Ooh, I'd be really glad to see the old posts come back. I want more Dooce! Vintage Dooce!
If you get more bandwith does that mean I'm no longer going to have to turn of my enire computer security system (which I do gladly, though it freaks my computer out) to view the seriously cute Leta and Chuck pictures?
Add me to the list of people who would gladly pay for a premium Dooce service, especially it included stupid emails. I love stupid emails.
495. Kate said:
I just wanted to let you know that I would absolutely sign up as a subscriber if you chose to go that way.
496. Hannah said:
Great news, can't wait to see the redesign and new features. How about adding more of this though, more opportunities to feedback...might not be a good idea cos of all the arses that send hate, but I'd love to be able to tell you how awesome and inspiring your blog is more easily!
As for raising money, I could suggest a subscription area, but I know new visitors wouldn't like it...maybe just make a bigger deal out of the fact we can donate to your paypal. Well anyway, good luck. Love to the family (especially Chuck xxx)
497. rokdevil said:
I would be happy to offer you free hosting. I'm a small company, but growing slowly. Another person also offered free hosting, so perhaps we could mirror and therefore split the bandwidth?
498. lilipug said:
It will work. You're site has been a place me and my friends have come to many times for it's cutting humor and "realness". But I think you should go one further - forget about writing for a paper. You need to put this stuff in a book! There are so many people (women especially) who can relate to your life and histerical anecdotes. Your style of writing
would be a breath of fresh air in the publishing world.
Especially, with your experience as a new young mom - look at books like the Nanny Diaries, How does She Do It and Bridget Jones Diaries. Do the "enhanced" website - I'd pay for it - but I want to see a book(s). I think it would be a huge success!
All the best.
499. DM said:
Dooce (and thank you to Que Sera Sera that I finally know how to pronouce this)stuff. I would buy it in a heartbeat. I loved the calendar idea.
Heather, your writing is so well-done, so hilarious, that I come here every day, hoping for a new post. I love your work, including Leta and the noodle-wrapped Chuck.
I seriously think you should go the book route. One of my favorite authors, Mil Millington, started with a cult-website. He's working on his 3rd book (a little too slowly, if you ask me) now. I would love to have your posts in book form (the web is all well and good but what am I going to read on the bus?)
500. kathleen said:
How about creating a YABB forum for doocies? They who follow the cult of dooce?
I'd SO be a part of it. In a blood heartbeat. I'd pay for it too.
501. Rob W. said:
I'm also a Mil Millington reader and agree that you're as good as he is... and he's sold a LOT of books.
I'd also gladly pay $25 for a really nice Dooce t-shirt, proud of the fact that I'd be able to walk down the street and have every 123rd person who saw see my shirt give me a thumbs up and a low, approving, "Doooooooooce!"
There are very few clubs I'd belong to that would have me as a member, but this is one of them.
502. Amanda said:
I think what someone mentioned above was a great idea, and that was to sell your photographs. Frame them, put them on mousepads and mugs, calendars, whatever- they're beautiful. Throw a dooce.com logo on there, and you're golden.
503. Amanda (again) said:
Another idea, although I know you've kind of been there before....
Sell websites for normal people, not businesses or "the man". But I know I for one would love to have a site, but haven't the foggiest idea how to create them, and don't care to know, to be honest. It's just not for some people.
So, have a corner of your site dedicated to selling websites for other people, and have examples, like links to other sites that you have created for instance. Your site is great- it's beautifully done, not to mention the content is hilarious- so that would help you sell sites better than anything.
504. Rebek said:
Hello,
I really don't know what I would do if you stop writing! I will pay to keep reading!!!!!! Like a few others have said, I came upon this site by accident and I am hooked. You really do give me inspiration. Tell me where to send my money!
505. susu said:
Well.. a book, that would rock of course, but as soon as someone wants to start and write in some sort of permanent way, it's gone. Paying for the site? By all amusement and love for your writing, I could live without it (as others could). Merchandise? Dooce ain't Arnold Schwarzenegger.. yet/ ;) Don't censor your site, that would be.. damn, that would cut it all out. The question is.. WHAT can you do?
The Paypal thing sounds like an idea.. there are enough people willing to donate.
I was also thinking.. you could start some kind of service. Use your site for questions and answers in baby matters. I don't know but you seem to be the only motherly creature these days who's not blinded by.. I don't know, motherness, maybe.
It's only an idea. But please-- KEEP IT UP.
506. susan bein said:
I won't repeat any of the ideas above, many great, but as a designer, I'm sure you know better than to listen to the well-meaning suggestions that you design sites or ads for people as a way of having a low-stress job while bringing up baby. Client calls, inane requests (Why can't it be blue?) billing and other requisite joys will make you long for the day when it was only Leta screaming in your face.
507. Phil said:
Lads and lassies who wish to donate - have none of you seen the little "donate" button in the control bar? Takes you right to a paypal link..
508. reflection said:
i think the idea of a cafe press store is great. i would definitely buy t-shirts with dooce designs and choice slogans -- for myself and all my friends. postcards, posters, bumperstickers... your humor, your design, your personality -- perfect to wear around the world. even with the word "fuck"
509. AMD said:
I only found your blog a little while ago, but I greatly empathize with what you and your husband are going through. I have gone through several permutations of my career as I have tried to balance it with becoming a mother to two young sons. I found a name for it, "sequencing", and a great deal of support and friendship through a group called Mothers & More (www.mothersandmore.org)
I see that you have many dedicated fans who are quite willing to pay for more features and subscriptions. I am not sure I could personally afford such a luxury. But this is not about me.
However, if you start charging subscriptions, how long will this site really remain about you (rather than the audience)?
510. shy said:
i like the 'fan/hate mail' section. also like the photo a day idea.
this sounds very promising. if the membership fee is affordable for me, i'd definitely sign up!
another idea would be to have a dooce forum but... perhaps that's something to consider later down the road.
it would be a lot of work and you would need to assign people to help moderate the place.
good luck!
511. shy said:
i like refleciton's idea (post #509).
dooce designs on t-shirts for women, men AND BABIES (don't forget the little ones) as well as other stuff like mugs and what the hell... underwear/thongs... would be a great idea!
512. misty said:
Hopefully you're still reading the comments. :)
Hey, can you trademark the "softer side of cynical" line? I love that and would buy a t-shirt with DOOCE and that slogan on it (or a shirt with either/or).
You definitely have a ginormous web presence as you're linked on every blog I've seen (including my own--which isn't working/being updated at the moment due to my own dumbassery). You'd make some money off DOOCE wear/wares.
As a side note: I think you're doing well. PPD sucks ass (BTDT three times--still there w/my third who was born two weeks ago) and even without it, being a mom (esp. for the first time) can be the worst best thing ever. It's cliche but true: it will get better. Until she turns three and is a mini version of what she'll be at thirteen. ;-) Hang in there. I can't promise a lot of sunshine and roses, but it does (eventually) get easier.
513. JennB said:
I'm sure it's been said a couple of hundred times already here - it's Sunday and I don't have the time to read all the comments - but lady?? Go for a book deal. I read about 100+ blogs every day and there are a handful of them that have book deals because of their blogs. I think your writing quality is the top of the heap. It's really fantastic. So, shop that option around. Look for an agent, come up with a proposal (The life and times of a PPD mom?) and I don't think you'll have to wait for long.
By the way, I would buy the Chuck & Leta dolls, but only if Chuck screams and Leta barks. I want the ones that they get the computer chips mixed up in.
Good luck. And, once again, I am totally impressed with the sheer volume of comments on your blog. I usually get 2, and I've written one of them. Jealous!
514. Emily said:
I would totally pay money to read this website. Heather, I've been reading dooce.com for 3 years and have loved seeing your photos (especially the Utah posts - I think the west is beautiful) and reading your posts. Your site makes me laugh and I look forward to reading every new post.
I'm a student. I'll be graduating soon and I'm still trying to figure out what I want to do and figure out how I would support myself, ideally doing something that I like or don't mind so much. I love reading your site because you've done things (some that I wish I could do like graphic design or live in the west) and you'll tell me about them. I don't know if you see it this way, but it's a little bit hopeful for me.
I've been thinking about donating to your site recently because I don't think you should have to pay to have me read your writing and look at your pictures. I think making money off of this site or covering the costs of it is totally reasonable and a good idea.
Also, dooce gear would be great! Stickers! Mugs! Mousepads!
One problem I thought of:
How do you continue to get new readers if they have to pay to read your site? I saw someone suggest as subscription for extra stuff, maybe some form of that?
Thanks for posting.
515. Stephanie said:
If you are going to do this to make money, and make it a job, so to speak, then it's 'by nature' less personal. I would say it is Ok to substitute some profanity with substitute words... people will still know what you mean. When you sell yourself completely, profanity and all, you are taking money for your heart. Don't sell your heart. Not even prostitutes do that.
516. Stephanie said:
Appending here because I wanted to try to convey that I don't agree at all with censorship of any kind and the profanity isn't an issue for me personally. Perhaps you can have two versions of your writings... Leonardo Da Vinci often painted two versions of his paintings, one was always a bit toned down to appease the buyers.
You have more talent and a gift worth sharing that goes beyond selling mugs or t-shirts or accepting paypal donations. You are past that! and I agree with anyone who suggested book-deal(s), magazine or newspaper columns. If I were an editor I would not bleep you.
517. Ron said:
I know they say they're not accepting new submissions (are they still even operating?) but I'm sure that the fo9lks at SoNewMedia (http://sonewmedia.com/) would love to work with you in in a minimally-edited, high-quality printing venture.
And, just to add to the list, my wife and I are huge fans! We would SO pay for a subscription/premium account/blood money to access your site.
Everyone: Be sure to check out the article "Blog, Interrupted" in today's Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54736-2004Aug10.html. Go to page 4 of the article if you're in a hurry.
518. Kelley said:
I had another idea that hopefully hasn't been mentioned.. you could do banner advertising.. only not by some dumb companies but your readers could pay to have their banners on your site?
519. Sherri said:
Heather,
I LOVE your site, but I would hesitate at the idea of paying to read it. Also, I'd hate to see your wonderful designs cluttered by a bunch of annoying ads.
I think you'd do well to find yourself a book deal or get a newspaper or magazine column going. You're an incredibly talented writer and have a HUGE fan-base already. Yeah, you might have to subject yourself to some editing for outside publishing, but you'd still have your blog.
I would totally pay to download photoshop tutorials, however. Totally. I think there's most definitely money to be made there. Tell all of us wannabes how to make pretty picture like you. :-)
520. Rich said:
I'm for a Dooce.com book. I believe that'd be a pretty big seller (I'd buy one for $20 or so) with not only content from the site, but also tips and tricks of online Doocery. I'm part of the group that wouldn't mind seeing ads on the site, but think there shouldn't be a cost associated with blogs. But I'd be first in line to buy the book.
Oh, and chalk me up for dooce.com and blurbomat.com shirts. XL, please.
521. Cheesepuppet said:
I think the book idea is a good one, but I know that might be a lot of work for you right now. Plus, it's stressful as hell (sadly not speaking from experience). Have you thought about putting up one of those PayPal buttons and a small blurb that says something like, "if you like what you read, please think about contributing"? I would certainly pay if I had an easy way to do it, like PayPal. You may be surprised how many other people would respond too, especially after reading some of the LUV LUV LUV comments in this here comment section.....
522. Amanda said:
I can't imagine how expensive it must be to maintain this site, and I appreicate that you take that burden on each month. I feel that if you were to charge you would no doubt keep your current readers and lose out on potential new ones. If I had been asked to pay to read when I first started, I would have moved on and, ultimately, missed out.
Thank you for the laughs.
523. Lunasea said:
Oh yeah, I'd totally wear a dooce.com T-shirt. Not that you'd necessarily want me to, but I am still nursing and so have a nice big rack to display your URL. And I'm pregnant again so it ain't going away any time soon.
I also think there are advertisers who would pay big bucks to have your endorsement. I mean, look at your readership! Who doesn't want to reach us intelligent people with computers?
Can't wait to see the new site.
524. Michael said:
A few things: 1) Charge a monthly subscription fee. This will provide steady revenue and let you keep out the idiots who send you the hate mail. 2)Get thee to a book company -- a compliling of your archives would make a great book (REALLY!). 3)When people give x-tra donations because they appreciate your work so much, write them back.
Anything of value is worth paying for. You're right to be thinking this way. We all need money. It's not a sell-out. It's a non-sentimental way of taking care of what you care about. Yeah for that!
525. misty said:
The mastheads! I'd definitely buy the "maternal inferno" one on a t-shirt or mug.
I 400th the book suggestion and if you're going to do it, I'm signing up right now on an advanced order list.
526. jackie said:
Dooce,
It seems to me that charging would make you loose a lot of your audience -- so much content is free on the web that putting yours under lock and key would slow the growth of your readership.
I say go with advertising. With the loyal audience who return daily and eat out of your hand (me included), advertisers would love space on the site.
Also, on editors: they may have sucked before, but having proven yourself a funny, wry, compelling writer with a wide appeal, I think they'd be more likely to let you take liberties. Especially when you are the subject of your writing -- you and your style are inextricable, so it seems they'd be less likely to try to dampen it.
Thank you so much for this site. Its one in a million.
527. beedlebaum said:
A book is a great idea, but might mean shelling out some dough...
Writing for a mag or paper would bring in the dough. Don't worry about editors, if you are worried about them sucking the life out of your work, then write something that isn't so near and/or dear to you.
By all means, do NOT lose the swearing.
Shit. Fuck. Crap. Assss.
528. Lisa said:
I just love your writing. The peanut allergy had me peeing my pants. I can't say that I would pay to read your site - only because I don't do the online shopping thing. But as a former marketing and publicity consultant, I can tell you that you can make oodles of money here for sure. You are filling a niche - reality AND honesty. Look for advertising that isn't afraid of either and then run ads. I would sift through 20 ads to get to your good stuff lady! ;)
love ya