Poker face
My friend called yesterday in a mild panic to tell me that her daughter who is two days older than Leta had figured out how to climb out of her crib. She and I read the same children's sleep book, and I asked her if she had gone back to see what it said about situations like this. She said the advice was a little crazy, that she should lock the door and if the kid gets out of the crib to let her fall asleep on the floor. And also? That she shouldn't worry if the kid falls while hoisting her body over the railing because the risk of injury is negligible. A scientific expert is suggesting that babies can bounce.
I don't remember that chapter of the book, but it doesn't really matter because I'm ignoring the possibility that Leta will ever need to sleep in a bed without bars. However, I'm afraid that if we don't transition her from the crib into a regular bed soon that we will be facing a battle we could have otherwise avoided. A few months ago we began putting Leta into two-minute time-outs in a small chair against a wall in the living room. I was worried, knowing very well the magnitude of her will in the past (see: that one time she went 30 hours without eating just to prove a point), that she would realize that she could just get up out of the chair and walk away. And the first time we did it she did exactly that, hopped out of the chair, walked over to the book she had thrown across the room, picked it up and looked at me like, do you have any other orders that I can willfully disregard?
I put her right back in the chair, though, and continued to do so when she got up for a second and third time. It was after the third time that her lip began quivering with the realization that, oh my god, this woman is serious, life is a prison. Since that first episode she has never moved an inch when we put her into a time-out, and afterward she won't even look in the direction of whatever it is that got her in trouble in the first place. She is very much like Chuck this way, and whenever we find a stuffed animal with a missing limb -- a duck with no beak, a bunny with no cotton tail, an octopus with only three remaining tentacles -- all we have to do is show it to him and he will incriminate himself by collapsing on the floor with his ears glued to the back of his head, his eyes darting wildly around the room to look at something, anything other than the amputee, his entire body full of dread that I will put that toy on his head and take a picture of it to show thousands of people.
I like to believe that we got in our bluff early with Leta, and that maybe if we put her into a regular bed soon she will remain in it until we give her an indication that it's okay to get out. Not likely, I know, and it will require a bit of work on our part, but she is taking our disciplinary routine so seriously that yesterday she put the cow figurine from Noah's Ark into a time-out on Elmo's potty.
"TWO MINUTES!" she screamed while pointing an angry finger into the cow's face. "SIT THERE FOR TWO MINUTES!"
Those delinquent, biblical cows are always causing trouble.
It didn't move, of course, and she stood a few feet away with her arms crossed over her chest knowing that it had to stay put because she said so. I think I have just pulled off the ultimate parental coup in that my child now believes that BECAUSE I SAID SO requires no further explanation.
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1. Kevin Worthington said:
I have to remember these tips for when my wife and I have kids...
2. CJ mama said:
40. The number of times I had to get up and put my 2 year old son back in bed at one particular naptime shortly after we moved him from crib to bed. I'm determined to find a better way with my daughter.
3. typingelbow said:
Congrats, Heather! Sounds like a whole new chapter of parenting has begun. BECAUSE I SAID SO!
4. angiewis said:
Ugh, the thought of transitioning to a big kid bed for my 2 1/2 year old scares me to death!
5. feministbitch said:
Congratulations, Heather! I think getting a two year old to stay in a time out is a HUGE accomplishment, worthy of at least a mild celebration (somewhere between Mormon and Girls Gone Wild). (-:
6. bellybuttonbugs said:
Have you been watching Supernanny?
I guess it could be worse, Leta could be shoving the cow's head down into the potty and making it stay there for 2 minutes.
7. Jennifer in Ohio said:
We waited a really long time to put the kiddo into a toddler bed. She never tried to climb out of her crib, so we didn't feel the need. But, by the time she turned three, we felt it was time regardless. We secured her dresser and bookcase to the walls and got a super strong gate for her room (no places for her to put her feet so she can climb over). In fact, we didn't have to install the gate- we bought a pressure mounted gate (called the "hands free gate"- I LOVE IT!!).
She loves her new big girl bed. Just loves it. Everybody warned me that she would be screaming at the gate night after night, but they couldn't be more wrong.
At nap time, she did try to get out of napping and would just play with her toys, but those days we just put her to bed earlier. I told her that she would get two hours of quiet time regardless of whether she napped or not, and she finally "got it".
Good luck :)
8. MaggieBelle said:
I'm SO using "BECAUSE I SAID SO!" when my baby is old enough.
I will also use "Because I'm the mom!"
9. Angela Kriger said:
Well, and if the "Because I said so" doesn't work to keep her in the bed, there's always superglue and duct tape.
10. chelle said:
I have one word for you: Supernanny
I have eight words for you: I adore So You Think You Can Dance!
Good Luck with the big girl bed thing...
11. Mike-L said:
My wife and I are expecting our first in November (it's a girl!), and we can't even get our dogs to sit. I hope in two years time I can get our little girl to obey a time out - if not, what are your feelings on Duct Tape as a child monitoring device?
12. s gazzetti said:
We're at the point of considering the transition to a 'big-kid' bed, too. We thought about it and then decided to just staple chickenwire over the top of the crib.
13. Snickrsnack Katie said:
Wow, for a two year old to stay put in time-out is one thing. For a two year old to start giving time-outs to her toys, that is pretty cool.
My 20 month old niece will sit on the time-out chair facing the wall and she will force herself to stop screaming long enough to pretend like she is having fun. She will put her hands up against the wall and start playing patty-cake with the wall, and she will giggle and smile in between sobs. It is like she is trying to say "SEE? I CAN have fun in Time Out! So THERE!"
14. Goooder said:
The thought of her yelling TWO MINUTES at a toy cow is pretty hilarious. I wonder what it could have possibly done to deserve a time out?
15. onegirlmanyideas said:
at least leta isn't ripping the limbs off things while chuck punishes god's creatures. that would be weird.
16. Mrs Ca said:
Now, that's what I call power. Unfortunately I don't think it lasts forever, although I was scared enough of my parents to not try anything like drinking while I still lived under their roof. After I got out though? All bets were off.
17. ktjane said:
I can't wait until Leta starts a blog - she is HILARIOUS!
18. JenC said:
Not that you need any more parenting advice, but the anonymity of the Internet just compels me :)
We used your strategy with the time out for our 18-month-old and the bed. (We did it with both kids at that age.) It worked like a charm. Scared the crap out of them, if I recall.
19. Lisa said:
Heather, I think the key is to get a high bed - that's what we did for Juliet. She is so excited to climb up into it (quite a feat), and she loves stuffing bunny down in between the bed and the safety bar net side thingy so much that it hasn't occurred to her to try to get out. Maybe Leta will be just so clueless?
20. mamablogs said:
Keep her in the crib a few more months and then when you switch her to the bed, use that ole threaten the furry sloth bit.
21. jon deal said:
We knew it was time to move our oldest to a "big person" bed when she climbed out of the crib and up onto her dresser. And then fell asleep there on top of the dresser.
22. Valerie said:
I recall my own mother using "Because I said so" many, many times. Her other favorite was, "That's what they teach us to do at Mom School."
23. moose said:
I -still- think "because I said so" is a valid reason. And I'm old enough to use the internet and form somewhat grammatical sentences. That's how effective parental brainwashing can be.
24. Jennadog said:
Funny you brought this subject up now since I have been thinking about it the past few weeks too. Until my son gave me no choice. He is 25 months and he just broke his wrist last week from falling out of the crib. He had never tried to get out before this day. Seeing your kid in a full arm cast is enough shame to suck it up and do it. He slept in a bed with rails for the first time this weekend and loved it! I put a gate up to keep him in his room.
Good luck!
25. Sheila said:
I was amazed and astounded on this past Sunday when we took the front bars of our two-and-a-half year old twins' cribs. I too was sure that they would never stay in when they were able to get out. But they didn't! They asked for a last kiss, standing up as always, and laid down and went to sleep. So far, they haven't even gotten up in the morning - they still call out for us to fetch them.
And not only do they bounce, they don't even wake up! Every night for the past 3 nights they have each fallen once or twice out of bed (onto the pre-prepared pillows and blankets) and just KEEP SLEEPING. It's hilarious.
26. Jezzie said:
What I love about the big kid bed is that I can snuggle with my son :) and then go to MY big kid bed...alone! I am tall like you, and I hated hunching over the crib on the nights of exhaustion. Worst comes to worst, I have let him fall asleep and then crawled out to safety :)
Luv ya Heather, needed your tender, funny insights on life today.
27. lazydays8401 said:
My 29-month-old hasn't slept in a crib since she's been about a year old. Not that this was my choice - she simply refused to sleep in her crib & has always wanted to sleep in a "big bed." She doesn't get out, though she does end up in some weird positions where she almost falls out. We were on a vacation recently & I slept in a queen-size bed with her. I awoke in the middle of the night in a panic because she wasn't lying next to me only to find her at my feet.
28. miss megan said:
I'm sure you get plenty of AWESOME child-rearing advice...yeah...so I feel like a jerk
but (remembering back to my toddler days) I think what my parents did to get me to stay in my big girl bed was act like sleeping in a bed without bars was just the awesomest thing ever. And they showed me how my friend sleeps in a big girl bed and my cousins sleep in big girl beds. But I couldn't sleep in one unless I stayed in bed.
I wanted to be like them so I worked hard on staying in bed.
Oh peer pressure.
29. biodtl said:
I got a t-shirt for Mother's Day with "Because I Said So" in white glitter. If only it said, "Now Get Me a Drink!" on the bacx!
And I can't tell you how it pleases me that someone else punishes their dog by putting the item in question on their head and taking photos. I have tons of photos of my dog with torn-up napkins, stuffed animals, paper plates and Big Mac containers on his head.
30. DravenStele said:
We bought one of those cribs where you can unscrew one side to make it a bed. My wife has been watching my daughter hang off the side of the bed rails for the last 10 months, asking "Do you think it's time to take down the side for her?" Heck no.
When Rhiannon started having night terrors about six months ago, we moved some unused couch cushions into her room next to the crib for one of us to lay down next to her until she quietted down. Those will make wonderful air pillows for her to fall on to if she ever makes it over the wire.
31. Chloe said:
I made a bit of a big deal out of the transition - we went shopping for sheets for the bed, accessories, that type of stuff, so it was truly her bed by the time she had to sleep in it - plus the crib disappeared and she had no choice.
32. Mack'sMom said:
My husband and I are currently going through this maddness! We've tried the SUPER NANNY techniques, read books, and tried everything but the duct tape and chicken wire...though it's been discussed!
Last week we thought we had finally won...boy were we wrong! She climbed out of her crib and layed on the floor next to the door screaming. She knows how to open the door, so we figured since she wasn't coming out she was "dealing." After about 10 minutes my husband broke down and went into her room.
He found a half naked child...peeing on her carpet! "So who's the boss now!?!"
33. jes said:
Next time, will you have the camera ready? We all want to see Leta putting a biblical cow in timeout.
Also, unsolicited advice: when you do get a bed for her, just put a mattress on the floor - don't bother with a support system yet. It may be ghetto, but at least she won't hurt herself if she falls out.
34. Wonked said:
If you think your kid is going to use logic and transfer "because I said so" rights to you, YOU have been watching too much Elmo.
- Wonked
35. lisa said:
I really wish "because I said so" would work with individuals other than two-year-olds.
36. Alotta Errata said:
Did you choose two minutes for time out because she is two? I've heard that's the way to figure out how many minutes they can handle, one for each year of life.
also, and slightly unrelated, I'd love to know how you get that ring effect in your photos, where the edges fade to black a bit.
37. TNW said:
I used to fling myself out of my crib all the time, so my parents removed the bars and set the crib on the floor. I didn't dig that either, so I slept on the floor. I have only minor brain damage as a result...
38. Lori said:
When we put my son into a regular bed, it took a few nights of trying to keep him there, but it wasn't an exhaustive issue. We also used the bed for timeouts (I know I'm an awful parent), but when he was put into bed for a timeout or for bedtime he never got out without permission. I think he was 7 or 8 before figured out that the wrath of God would not descend if his little toes ventured out on his own! You're a good mom and approaching everything with humor is the key to your sanity. Enjoy her. They just grow up too darn fast!
39. omar said:
My kid is not quite 2 yet, and we've started doing little 1 minute timeouts. We still have to do it in his pack & play, as we do not yet have the ability to keep him still without strapping him down or enclosing him in something.
We've had slightly more success with toy timeouts, where we'll keep the toy he threw and/or hit me with aside for a minute or two. At first, he'd just go find something else to throw and/or hit me with, but now he's starting to understand a little better that he's gotta play by the rules in order to keep the good toys around.
40. Michelle Arnold said:
We moved our daughter to a big girl bed a few months ago. Mysteriously she thinks there is an invisible force field that is prohibiting her from getting out of the bed. I think because we pushed it against the wall and have one of those safety rails on the other side, she doesn't think she can physically get out. I know I should tell her otherwise.........but why would I want to do that?
41. Pandemonium said:
Just chiming in to say we did the crib mattress on the floor for a little while also. Despite the scientific evidence that children bounce, I was just a little unsure about that methodology. We had to move my oldest out of his crib at 18 months because he was climbing over the rails and plummeting to the ground. Seemed that no bouncing was involved. : )
42. Jennifer said:
Congratulations. I'm impressed with how well the discipline is working.
43. Lena Lotsey said:
Just say "Leta. These are the only bars you'll get in Utah. Enjoy them! Because I said so.".
44. MelanieinOrygun said:
It's been so long now that I've forgotten what we did to get the girls into big-girl beds. I know my older child was three (!) by the time I caved and fought the Great Bedtime Wars of '97; and I think my younger child was all agog to get her own bed since her big sister had one.
But all that's to the side, here. What I really wanted to say was: Holy Shit! You got her to respect the time-out that fast? I am completely in awe.
Also? Leta is an amazingly beautiful child. I can't remember if I ever said that or not, so I'll tack it on here, to this post that had nothing whatsoever to do with her appearance.
45. rebecca said:
Both of my kids started climbing out of the crib at 18 months. We got a toddler bed with a little rail by the headboard & put some pillows on the floor next to it, but neither one fell out more than once or twice. More alarming to me was the possibility of a toddler wandering around the house while we were asleep. For us, the trick to keeping them in their rooms was to put a baby gate in the doorway.
You take the baby gate down when they start climbing over THAT.
46. rivetergirl said:
We kept our daughter in her crib until way past her third birthday. She never tried to climb out and it was nice to have her in a secure location. She probably would have stayed in the crib longer but the sliding latch thing broke so we converted it to a toddler bed.
Because she never tried to get out of the crib, she never got out of the toddler bed either ... that changed later on, but the transition was smooth.
I am never sure how to feel when I see my daughter discipling her stuffed animals, but it's part of her life so I guess it's her way of taking control of her environment.
47. Chris said:
My youngest, Gillian, just the other day decided it would be fun to climb out of her crib. We did an emergency switch to her big-girl bed and after 3 nights she is adjusting well. At first she was afraid of the safety rail, but on night 2 she rolled out of bed. Now she doesn't mind the safety rail... :-)
48. sweetney said:
fucking cows, man. go leta!
49. bellabugs_mom said:
Consider yourself lucky that you have made it this far. My daughter began climbing out of the crib at 10 months. We ended up getting one of those tents to go on top. She was fine with it, dare I say even liked it.
Now at 13 months, she can dismantle the tent and get out on her own. I've decided that if she is that innovative, I might as well let her turn on the stove and have breakfast ready for us when we wake up.
Two tears in a bucket, fuck it. I can't handle any additional stress. Next week when she wants to get her own apartment, I guess I will have to co-sign the lease.
50. bellabugs_mom said:
Consider yourself lucky that you have made it this far. My daughter began climbing out of the crib at 10 months. We ended up getting one of those tents to go on top. She was fine with it, dare I say even liked it.
Now at 13 months, she can dismantle the tent and get out on her own. I've decided that if she is that innovative, I might as well let her turn on the stove and have breakfast ready for us when we wake up.
Two tears in a bucket, fuck it. I can't handle any additional stress. Next week when she wants to get her own apartment, I guess I will have to co-sign the lease.
51. lightspring said:
Sigh. You will receive LOTS of parenting advice, most of it completely unsolicited. I'm sure you've already noticed this. Still, it's all your decision how to approach various situations in child-rearing. Don't forget that the first child is totally the guinea pig, and that for any and all subsequent children you will probably do things differently.
I've had four. FOUR!! And I'm still learning. I found, though, that it can pay not to hurry those milestones, like moving to the Big Bed. You'll find your way, though, AND you'll do it publicly! So you can't lie to Leta when she's older (have you thought of that? "No, honey, we were always Perfect Parents!" Not gonna work, not with the record you're leaving. You probably won't be able to keep her from learning to read).
And the Because I Said So thing? It totally works. Even when they get older.
52. Snickrsnack Katie said:
Forgot to add that you know it is time to get the baby a big kid bed when they start climbing out of the thing and climbing ONTO other objects. My niece, the Infamous Evelyn, climbed out of her crib at the age of 13 months and climbed up onto the changing table. From that vantage point, she decided it would be cool to use her dirty diaper to paint the walls a pretty brown color. The smell, I tell you, the SMELL! It was horrible. They immediately transferred her to a big kid bed, and piled it high with toys and other fun stuff, along with some mammoth pillows. Now she has too much fun in bed to go climbing up on furniture to paint fecal artwork.
53. Jerri Ann said:
damn you better hope "because I said so" works for many many years to come.....*crossing her fingers and nodding her head* umph
54. Notorious M.I.L.F. said:
My daughter climbed out of the crib at 16 months. We now have a zipped-up tent over her crib.
55. Sandra Heikkinen said:
My niece (just over 3) has recently started sitting in her time out chair even when there's no reason for a time out. My brother and his wife aren't QUITE sure if making her sit there is going to work so well anymore...!
56. Trisha said:
You people are all scaring me! We don't have kids yet but are trying to adopt. I had no idea that things like sleeping in a crib/staying in one, etc. could be so difficult!
57. Bauer's Sweetheart said:
For our first daughter, we put the big girl bed in the room for a few weeks while she still slept in the crib. Then we would start letting her take naps in the bed, and about a week later moved her to the bed full time. She never got out of the bed and would wait patiently for us to come get her once she woke up. I was worried about her wandering around the house while we slept so we put a hook and eye latch on the outside of the door - which locked her in but was so flimsy that a push from anyone age 10 or older would pop it right out. I figured that was safer in case of a fire than having to climb over or unlatch a gate.
With our second daughter, my husband just switched out the crib for the bed, and this one gets out of bed once she wakes up. I think the first two nights she wandered out but we put her straight back in and she got the message pretty quick. Now she just yells different comments ("I have a hair in my mouth!" or "Are you watching Big Brother? Why are you laughing?") for about 15 minutes until she settles down. So I don't worry about her wandering around at night but I have been lucky enough to wake up to find her staring in my face at 6 am.
58. gorillabuns said:
the transition into a big girl bed was easy for my daughter but, if you can figure out how to show my 3 year how to rein in her exorcist-like emotions, i'll buy you a new car.
59. Jen said:
I swore that my son would sleep in his crib until he was 7, just for my convenience. We had to bribe and basically force him into a toddler bed when he had the potty training thing down at just over 3 yrs. Our daughter (who turned two in June) has been climbing out of her crib for about six months now. We have one of those parent-proof plastic things on her doorknob to keep her in if she decides she's ready to get out of bed. She's slept on the floor. Many times. I have no plans on moving her to a toddler bed until *I'm* good and ready because I think that would be an open invitation for her to play all night! She now stays in bed after realizing it's much nicer than the floor.
60. Meretrice said:
I have a three year old Daughter, here is a very old blog entry of mine on how we dealt with the transition from the crib to the bed:
http://www.meretrice.com/2004/05/damn-you-stop-growing-up.htm
To summarize, it wasn't that hard to keep Daughter in place as long as she was unable to turn the door knob on her bedroom door. Sure, on occasion, I would find her curled up on the floor in the morning. Since I hadn't heard any blood-curdling screams in the night, and her skull was still in one piece, I figured she was okay.
Once Leta can open her bedroom door (if she can't already), just use the time-out technique. If she gets out of bed, put her back there with a minimum of fuss and noise. Avoid talking to her whatsoever if you can. She will learn that it is just another situation where Mama is serious, and she will realize she needs to stay in bed.
Just wait for the fun phase after potty-training is completed. My Daughter has learned that "I gotta go potty!" is a get-out-of-bed-free card. She was up to 5 trips to the potty each night. Now we are playing a poker game wherein my Husband and I try to figure out which of her pleas to vacate her bladder are genuine and which aren't.
The loser, of course, changes the sheets.
Good luck with your wee one. She's a cutie.
61. Non_Highlighted Heather said:
My second child, Ben, had aspirations of Olympic pole vaulting around the time he'd turned one. The kid was a maniac the way he would swing himself over the side of his crib like he'd just won Wimbledon and was jumping the net to shake hands. Not only that, but he could get out of any pajamas that we bought for him. We finally resorted to cutting holes around the parimeter of the tops and bottoms of his pajamas, lacing shoelaces through the holes, and double knotting them. He'd already acquired the humiliating, testosterone laden nickname of Pooh Bear, but once he started the magical pajama routine, he was henceforth and forever known as Pooh-dini. He also looked at life as his own private mosh pit and would tear, pull apart, stomp, or suck on anything he got his hands on. Poor kid, every shot we have of him from the time he was crawling until he went to pre-school he's in baby jail i.e. the play pen. We used to say that if he'd been our first there might've not been a second, but he's grown into an amazing 12 year old, so full of life and energy and hilarity. I love him to pieces.
They fall. They crash. They go kaboom. That's why they're so squishy, so they can bounce back and keep right on going. Trust your gut. You'll know when Leta is ready to move to the next level.
Been reading for a while, first post. You're a hell of a writer, and a hell of a woman.
62. ErinMqt said:
I was babysitting a kid (for the first time) and he started crying pretty incessantly during his nap time. I was standing outside his door debating whether or not to go in when I heard a horrible thump. I opened the door to find him laying on the floor, now screaming. It was really scary. Luckily he was fine, but his mom was pretty freaked out.
Oh, the joys of parenting- I can't wait. :-)
63. Sandra Dee said:
Your daughter is simply precious. And the way you write about her is equally adorable.
I went through and read your archives the other day. You are an inspiration.
64. Amy said:
I figure I've got three big transition things to deal with and then I'm home free until Jr. High...
crib to regular bed (she's already "climbed" out twice)
potty training
getting rid of the pacifiers
I have no idea how any of those things will happen. I'm hoping for magic!
65. William said:
Toddlers DO Bounce.
They are a wonderful thing
the tops are made out of rubber
And their bottoms are made out of springs.
Aww crap...that was Tiggers. I need to go check on my kid.
66. Jeannine said:
For whatever reason, I was given a very active, big boy who had absolutely no desire to climb out of his crib and we sure didn't show him. He turned three yesterday (and wears 5T clothing) and could have easily gotten out. In fact, he had figured out how to climb in, but not out.
On Friday we moved him to his "big boy bed", which he thinks is fabulous. With the exception of him coming to visit us at 1 am on Monday night, no problems...yet. I have no idea how we got so lucky.
67. JenBlake said:
Feel lucky she waited until now to climb out! We had to convert our crib to a toddler bed at 18 months. No problems though, and I am in complete agreement with the Hands Free Gate with the pedal. We have 3 of them and they work fantastically- until he figured that out at 2 years old. The trick there is to buy a set of those cheap cabinet latches that look like a stretched out letter U and lock the gate with them. Now we have the gate off his room but still have them on the study and our bedroom to keep him away from temptation!
And as far as So You Think You Can Dance goes... Go Benji! We watched the show last summer and it was our guilty pleasure then- we are addicted now- thank goodness for the DVR!
Also dooce- we have the female equivalent of chuck, looks so much like him it is scary!
68. Alana said:
We moved when my son was 28 months old, and set up a race car toddler bed at our new house instead of the crib. We made a big deal of going to Target and buying new bedding, and he made the transition just fine. He did start getting up on his own in the mornings and waking me up, but now, at almost five, he goes downstairs on his own and plays quietly. We have to leave his door open because his room is very hot at night. We never did the baby gate thing; I think he would have dismantled it and hurled it down the stairs.
Time out still doesn't work for me. I've watched most episodes of Supernanny and read many parenting books, but it is rare that my son will sit in time out without some major threatening. If he does choose to sit there, he will kick his legs on the wall or start yelling at me.
School starts tomorrow. I can't wait!
69. crzylady said:
oh I can't wait for the day my daughter will be able to understand what I say and maybe (on occasion) do so.
(7 months old just doesn't respond to much, although if I say, "Ah ah ahaaaa" she'll freeze and turn to look at me with wonder in hopes of distracting my from the fact she still is reaching for whatever I just "ah ah ahhhh"ed her away from)
70. kim from germany said:
isn't it scary sometimes when you realize you have to think about every little thing you do with or in front of your kids because you KNOW they WILL copy it. giving a plastic-cow a time-out is one of the cutest things i've ever heard :)
71. Lori said:
I dread the day Austen starts yelling at his toys the way I occasionally yell at him. I don't want to see him pulling his hair out and turning purple because he JUST CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE. Enough with the bad toys!
Meanwhile, I'm looking forward to the day that he understands the purpose of the Naughty Chair -- and respects my authority enough to stay in it BECAUSE I SAID SO.
72. Stacey said:
Gotta Love Leta! We just started putting our 5-year-old in the corner for his punishment with the oven timer telling him when he was through. I tried standing over him to make sure he didn't move but I realized I'M NOT ON PUNISHMENT. He knew that if he acted up in the corner, I'd have to stand there a long time, too, so he'd keep it up. Now I just go on about my business and that makes him think about what he's missing out on having to stand in the corner. Each time he violates the 'corner rules' he has to stay an extra minute and it has taken a little time but he's used to it now. He's probably just plotting. Probably. Yes. He is.
73. far and away the farthest said:
My daughter, who is much smarter than I, found this incredible future bunkbed that stand on its head and is a toddler bed with a huge cover like a covered wagon above the upper frame. I think she was recalling the joy of a sheet draped over a card table that was her childhood cave. This was in response to glancing up at the moniter to see Toddler Guy standing at the door of his room where he had materialized from being in his crib.
Anyway, when Toddler Guy came home from preschool they were assembling this magic thing in his room. He was entranced. They have pictures of him grabbing the top frame and climbing in while they were still assembling it. He dubbed it his 'big boy bed' and the beloved crib was now the 'baby bed'. For a time he was all gleefully eager to get into his bed. Then came the day when he had that epiphany and realized the climbing down part worked just fine in this bed. So, they put him back several times and then just said it looked like he had to sleep in the 'baby bed'. Oh, the horror and wailing. Now the 'baby bed' is like a little soldier doing the crossed arm thing. Smart daughter.
74. SoonerGal said:
heather,
my daughter perfected this practice of climbing out of her crib when she was just over a year old! after freaking out, I went to the store and bought a crib tent that attaches to your crib. you can purchase them on-line at Babies-R-Us or Amazon.com Just type in crib tent. Hope this helps!
And BTW, Leta and I have the same birthday! How cool is that?
75. Connor's Mom said:
My son started to have nightmares and sleeping terribly at 1 1/2. At that time we moved him to a "big boy bed" with truck sheets. Still, nightmares and no sleeping for anyone. Our dr. said to try putting a tall gate across his door, so he would have to stay put, but wouldn't feel scared and trapped in his room. Works like a dream!
76. mslieder said:
I used the phrase, "Because I'm the mother and you are the child" clear up until my daughter was 24. It always stopped her cold.
When she was smaller, I would occasionally get fed up and pull out all the stops and say, "Because God said so!"
The sad part was one day we were in a grocery store and my kid proceeded to throw a fit because I wouldn't buy her something (probably candy). She was in the seat of the cart, bawling her eyes out so the whole store could hear. I just kept calmly saying, "I told you No." She would say, "Why?" over and over again real loud, with that pressure-filled cry, but I wouldn't give in. She finally got me back when in that same loud cry she said, "Why? Because God said so?"
Damn kids.
77. Billygean.co.uk said:
I would try and help, but I slept in my pram (apparently) until I was four, what do I know.
BG
78. molly said:
Fortunately for me, kids do bounce, but only if they've fallen just the right way.
79. JustLinda said:
We just started time outs with my 2 year old, too. She sees her 4 year old sister get sent to time out often so the first time I sent her, she couldn't quite decide whether she was injured or proud of herself for the punishment.
I don't know how the magic of time outs work. I was in Payless Shoes (you have to be THAT classy to hang with me) and my 3 year old would NOT stop running up and down the aisles. I would have let her but the clerk looked a little miffed about it. I told the child to stand by me and she Would. Not. Listen. Finally, I told her it was a time out - she had to sit at my feet in time out. She DID it. I'm not sure how much different "stand by me" or "sit her in time out" is in reality, but the words obviously carry some weight.
80. Christina Shaver said:
Go with SoonerGal's suggestion and get the crib tent. SO worth it. I think my son Evan will be sleeping in his crib until he goes away to college. That way I'll always know where he is at night.
81. issa said:
Um Dooce...I love you and I think you're freaking hysterical. But I have to warn you that Leta will soon figure out your tricks. Trust me, three is way different than two and Leta is getting there. She will one day learn that "because I said so" does not mean a fucking thing. I hate to scare you, but it had to be said.
By the way, she look more and more like you every day. Love all the pictures.
82. Ktkat said:
Why oh why can't "Because I said so" work on the average Joe on the street? It would make my life SO much easier. My baby is only 10 mos. old, so I have awhile before this particular dilemma overtakes my life. But, I will say this: I think that expert mistook babies for BUMBLES, cuz ya know, Bumbles DO bounce ("Lookie what HE can do!").
83. Ktkat said:
Why oh why can't "Because I said so" work on the average Joe on the street? It would make my life SO much easier. My baby is only 10 mos. old, so I have awhile before this particular dilemma overtakes my life. But, I will say this: I think that expert mistook babies for BUMBLES, cuz ya know, Bumbles DO bounce ("Lookie what HE can do!").
84. monkeyaker said:
My mom used to put me in a time out when I did something wrong. Like when I was five and I flushed her wedding rings down the toilet-- She put me in a time-out. The time-out chair was in a different state and I'm still currently sitting in it motionless waiting for her anger to subside. Oh, and I'm twenty-five now.
85. SarahLou said:
I'm just de-lurking because your comment box is open, and I signed up for TypeKey just for that reason!
So, uh...hi! and good luck with the time-outs. Enjoy the "because I said so" while it lasts. When she's a teenager, that shit won't fly anymore.
86. Nancy D. said:
....and it is SO sweet when they STILL know you mean it BECAUSE YOU SAID SO when they are teens.
All that repetition as toddlers? It lurks somewhere deep inside the teen. And they know to their core that they are deep doo when the choose defiance.
And the choose defiance..... And when you ask if they REALLY expected to get away with it, you stifle a laugh when they say in a small voice... "no".
And ground their butt.
87. Melissa said:
My brother and his wife swear by it: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00014PLAY/002-1648233-1224830?v=glance
88. tonya | adventure journalist said:
"Because I said so" were magic words in our house, they halted all conversation, leaving both kids with expressions of defeat. Until three or four days after Ryan (oldest) turned 15.
Since then, "because I said so!" is met with merely: "... and?"
89. Vaguely Urban said:
Jo would be so proud of you. Hell, she probably reads you and actually IS proud of you.
90. bluepaolo said:
Oooh. comments.
My two cents is that you want to get them (Leta) into the big bed now at her age, while the belief that she should do what you tell her to do is at least considered. We did this with our son around 26 months or so and he went along with it pretty well. Now that he is all of three, he is constantly testing limits as a matter of fact - often putting himself in timeout when he knows he's crossed a line. But he hasn't wavered from the bed thing, mostly because I think it hasn't occured to him to challenge it. (pooping in the bathtub is another story...sigh) If we were trying to get him to sleep in a big bed at this age I really think it would be a lot harder. Of course every kid is different - but as you note - you have a stubborn one on your hands and it gets a little worse before it gets better.
91. daegad said:
Don't be so sure that, "Because I said so" won't work in the future -- hell, I've read your comment policy!
(and you've no idea how many terrible things I've wanted to say about Britney, dooce!). . . besides you can always rely on the, "I'm counting to 3!" This still works on my 12 year old (and neither of us knows to this day what will happen if I ever reach 3)! Fear can be a wonderful tool when raising kids, I simply recommending instilling it as early as possible in their cognitive development.
As for bed-transitioning, I don't understand the problem. Kids will go through phases of not wanting to go to bed no matter where they sleep or what they're sleeping in. They have their own reasons. I respect that, but (and here is my favourite:) "I wish you didn't have to either! I'm only making you because it's my job."
92. mslieder said:
Crib tent or razor wire...
93. there's a run in my pantyhose! said:
My son is so weird. He will get in his bed, whether it be nap time or bed time and even if he doesn't fall asleep for 2 hours, he will not get out. He'll flail around calling out "Mommy" or yelling because his blanket fell on the floor and he can't reach it. He just will not get out. But once he goes to sleep, as soon as he wakes up, he'll get out of bed and come running to wherever I am. I have no idea how it happened that way... we didn't train him to do it. He's just a strange duck, I suppose.
94. farebear said:
I'm de-lurking ... finally. I've been reading your site for months. You crack me up all the time, and I identify with a lot of the things you say, and identify with a lot of the things you experience (even some of the Mormon stuff, although I am an active Mormon).
Anyway, once again I laughed out loud in the quiet of my house as my daughter and dogs sleep through their afternoon naps. The description of Chuck and his avoidance of eye contact and shifty body language when presented with evidence of his chewing. It mirrored so closely the scenario with our dogs that I've never been able to look at so humorously. I think remembering your account will help me in future to take all their chewing more in stride and with a sense of humor.
We moved our daughter Piper to a regular twin about a month ago. She is not quite 2, and her dad just got a bug up his butt that it was time. She's tall, so she wasn't really fitting in her crib very well and that was part of it. The rest was just whim. Yeah, fun whim. Its gone pretty darn well. we put a little railing along part of the bed so that she won't roll off without some effort on her part, and have treated bed time exactly the same as we did when it was crib time. I did find her asleep on the floor the morning after the 2nd or 3rd night, sleeping pretty darn well actually. But I think she learned that she's not very good at getting back up there on her own and now she doesn't get down, no matter how long it takes her to go to sleep. I've been very lucky in that she's a darn good sleeper ... I'm sure it could have been much worse when her dad got this particular bur under his saddle.
AND, I started using time-outs with Piper a month or so ago. I think I do it wrong ... or I'm not very good at picking which battles warrant a time-out. Because it usually turns into me making her sit there for a time limit or until she stops crying, neither of which seem very connected to whatever misconduct she's performed. I'm not even sure she has known why she's ended up there every time. I really need to refine my technique. I shouldl probably read something about it, instead of just guessing my way through it like I do most things.
Wow, when I de-lurk, I DE-lurk in rambling, boring comments. Sorry.
95. OneBabyMama said:
God, I live in fear for the day I have to put my son into a "big boy bed"!!!
His best friend who is a month younger (and has a month-old baby sister) FELL out of her crib onto a hardwood floor, necessitating (is that a word?) an ER visit (this kid doesn't bounce! LOL) so her mom put her into a "big girl" bed. She NEVER leaves it! It's weird.
Rowan slept with us for his first 8 months, then moved to his crib when "co-sleeping" started to mean "I am going to jump on your heads, wriggle, and kick you until we've all gone insane from lack of sleep" and we've been more or less happy ever since.
So, I think I'm going to keep him in his crib until he's 18. ;-p
96. kilowatthour said:
um, heather? when i was about leta's age i fell out of my crib and broke my collarbone.
i'm just sayin'.
97. Allison said:
Simultaneously genius and hilarious.
98. Trinity said:
That's freaking hilarious!
Because I said so! Hah! We'll see how long it lasts, however, because my kids realized real quick that "because I said so" means nothing.
99. hornblower said:
All this manipulating and controlling - really, it's just a huge headache for everyone. My kids are 11 & 8, & co-slept with us until ready to move into a bed on their own. We have never done the time-out thing either, though sometimes we might remove a child from a situation and go sit WITH them until things calm down a bit. I find this style of parenting you're all talking about so exhausting; relax a bit everyone - parenting is not performance art. Though I guess for you Heather, maybe it is. And yeah, my kids are turning out normal - nice, kind & polite; they know better than to leave a snarky comment on your blog. Unlike their mama.
100. Mocha said:
Oft quoted in my home: "Because I said so" is a complete sentence. Subject. Verb.
So far, so good.
"One size fits all", however, is an incomplete sentence. It needed to determine just WHO it fits. Certainly not everyone.
101. tammye72 said:
I never thought I'd use "BECAUSE I SAID SO" until I had kids. As soon as they hit the "Why?" stage I ended up having to use it. Really, after so many why Mommy, why Mommy, why Mommy, it was either use BECAUSE I SAID SO or go insane.
102. Tippy said:
i always thought it was so cute how my niece amber would climb out of her crib when she was done with her nap, open the door, and come join us like nothing was awry, her hair sticking up all over the place (she'll be 2 in november) until the day she fell out and smacked her forehead on her dresser, which we'd THOUGHT was quite far enough away, and wound up needing 6 stitches. the crib is a bed now.
the way they tend to parrot us, in both words and mannerisms amuses me entirely too much. and then amber started dropping food on the floor from her high chair, and stage-whispering for the dog to come get it. then i got in trouble.
103. AmySilk said:
My close friend and her husband started having their 30 month old sleep in a toddler bed about 3 months ago. Emma, the little girl, absolutely loves it. She's fallen out once so far, but their doctor told them it's normal and she may do it once or twice more but then the falling out will stop completely. Some subconscience thing. Which makes sense considering we, as grown-ups, rarely fall out of bed for something that does not include incorrectly reading a sex manual. They don't have a gate at her bedroom, but do at the top of her stairs. When we stayed there she only got out in the morning around 6 when she felt we'd all slept enough. :o)
Good luck!! Oh and I can't wait to use "because I said so" along with "Life isn't fair!"
Emma and now Leta both make me want to have kids TODAY. ... now if I could just find a job to support one AND convince my husband... hmmmm....
104. Angela said:
Not that this matters at all in your life, but I have to say it anyways. You are my Favorite person ever. That is all.
105. Shalini said:
"because I said so" always worked on me as a kid, on my little one, I think she will breathe fire at me if I try that.
106. CrankMama said:
One of the worst days of my life was the day my twins climbed out of their crib. I heard "c'mon Joey" in a stage whisper, 2 loud clunks, and then giggles. Cold sweats ensued...
107. Felicity said:
I can't believe I'm commenting, I'm such a drop in the bucket!
Maybe Leta would like a cargo bed with the railings. I felt better using one so I didn't worry about my 2.5 year old falling out during the night, plus I think it felt secure to him as well. We had room to have both his crib and bed in his room, so each night I'd just ask him if he wanted to sleep in his big boy bed with a few of his favorite items and one night he said yes and that was that.
By the way, I'm a new reader, I'm such a dork I actually read all your archives from your pregnancy on. LOL!
108. Karan said:
We took the mattress and bedding out of the crib, made the same bed on the floor and then bought deadbolt locks for all the outside doors. It was a great transition for both kids and their parents.
109. zitsmom said:
If you have room, put a toddler bed with side rail in the same room with the crib, letting all the stuffed animals sleep there. Only if Leta behaves will she be "allowed" to sleep there too. Goals are good :)
110. Jaycee said:
I don't remember the transition from cot to bed all that traumatic. He would (and sometimes still does) go through stages of coming and telling me trivial things at 5.30am but then other times will just get up and play with his toys.
And aren't kids like parrots!!! In the supermarket, the 'Mummy you did a fart' thing is quite embarrassing.
111. mdstblz said:
Phew, for a minute there I thought you had written this; "...an octopus with only three remaining testacles..." tentacles, I mean it only makes sense, everyone knows that octopi have eight testacles, I mean tentacles.
112. ChristyD said:
I'm so impressed that she stays in time out. We put a gate on our kids' doors when we moved them to the big bed, and if they climb over, we put one above that. It looks like jail, but it keeps them in their rooms instead of wandering at night. Good luck.
113. Jessamiah said:
with my daughter we got her a toddler bed (I'm not sure if you have IKEA there but they have a bed that extends as your kid grows bigger). And then we had both the toddler bed and the crib in her room.
That way she got used to it, wanted to take her naps in it and liked it a lot. I would definitley put a lock on her door so she can't get out when you are asleep, but other than that she should like it.
We totally emphasized the whole "Big Girl Bed!!!" idea :)
P.S- I think the new comment system is an awesome idea.
114. Stu mark said:
Dooce, don't change a thing about your writing. You give away what I would gladly pay for. You inspire and encourage, simply by being honest and open. That is Art.
115. jgsearls said:
Lawd...I'd trade ya. My daughter (26 months old) has been in a regular bed for three months (we moved and didn't want to have to put her mother effin crib up in the new house). She doesn't get out of it. Ever. Just yells for me like I'm her indentured servant and she's a noble woman who needs help getting out of her bed to be escorted to the water closet to take care of her urinary needs. Always me. Never Daddy. When she's done with the potty, she bounds cheerily into our room, smiles broadly at my husband and says, "Mohnin' Dada."
116. GypsySavage said:
Heather, ever consider starting her out on a futon bed? You could fold it up into a little couch for her during the day and a bed at night. She sure wouldn't have far to fall and LOTS of room for all her stuffed animals to sleep with her. It's amazing how much little ones learn from us. She is already giving her little stuffed pals her version of time out. I have a 15 month old grandson and can't wait to see what little tricks he picks up from his parents.
117. katem9579 said:
I always think its so crazy to read about what Leta is up to because my Baby G is only one month younger and seems to have so much of the same peronality as little Leta. I just wrote about G doing the exact same thing the other day with her beachball and her time out chair...though she was a little more dramatic and added in some of her own style. I wrote about it here
http://givingmommy.typepad.com/giving_mommy/2006/08/humi_am_boring_.html
118. PixieMegh said:
After the chapter titled "Because I Said So" comes "Because I'm the Mommy, That's Why."
I *heart* So You Think You Can Dance. And I too have no talent in that department.
And can I just add that the Kojak corpses ARE scary?
119. PinkPoppies said:
Hey there -- time for a bed. Kids don't bounce; they thunk and parts break -- not pretty. We tried the toddler bed in the room to get used to it -- not a chance. What worked was redoing the whole room -- rearranging the furniture the books, and adding some new cool thing beside the bed.
Also we were worried about night wandering as we have stairs that no gate would fit. We found these door knob covers at Toys R Us that only adults can manage (and in fact, there are adults who can't -- it was the test of coolness in our hosue to see who could figure it out). We only shifted the knob cover when the child was potty trained for night in case nature called at 3 a.m.
Time outs are weird things, and appear to work either for a short time, or for particular children. Lots of child development experts don't like this method because it usually involves a perceived withdrawal of affection, partly because most children are sent away from the parent to their room for the timeout. Much better is using consequences. As in, if you throw the toy, then it will go in the cupboard and you will not be allowed to play with it until this afternoon or tomorrow morning (or what ever interval was appropriate). If you do not behave, then we will leave. Then the parent has to follow through. That's the hardest part. But then parenting is never easy.
120. Lolajb said:
I told my now 3.5 yr old daughter when she moved into the "big girl bed" at 32 months.
"Never get out of this bed without me or you'll be in BIG trouble!" and she never has...
Of course that means she screams MAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! whenever it is time to get out or use the bathroom.
ugh.
121. cherylann said:
I enjoy reading your entries about Leta. My daughter is about a month older than your girl. When Josslyn turned two we decided to get her a big girl bed (toddler bed) with big girl bed stuff and made it like a big grown up thing. It's really close to the ground so we're not paranoid about her falling out.
Josslyn is also very big about putting my husband and I into timeout. The other day Daddy was pestering her so she put him into time out and whenever he would try and leave she would point at him and tell him... "time out daddy!" She's a funny one.
122. Kathleen said:
My first climbed out at 16 months.
I was 6 months pregnant at the time.
I thought "no big deal" because I wanted to use the crib for the newbie anyway. So we got a big bed and I got rails to put on it. I had to adjust to naptimes when he would get out and play, and I still sometimes have some nights where I tuck him in 100 times, but most of the time he went right to sleep. He still does, at night, and for most naps.
The part that worried me, though, was when the new baby came. He then started climbing INTO the crib. I have no idea how, he just did. I was afraid he would fall on the baby. Or smother the baby. Or jump on him - anything. Anytime I heard a squeak over the monitor I ran into the room.
Anyway, it all worked out. The day I came in to check on them during nap and found them both asleep in the crib I realized there are actually worse things in this world than letting baby brothers share the occasional nap space.
Leta might never want to climb out of her crib. Maybe the transition will be easier than you think. I look forward to finding out, at any rate.
123. SarahLou said:
Ok, second comment: I got a big girl bed when I was like 3ish and I fell out a couple times but nothing serious like stiches or breaking things. But my mom put up kiddie bed-gaurds and when I got too close to the edge I would feel the cold steel and uncomfortable netting and scootch back the the center. voila! Instant aversion. Weather it was on purpose or not. But bed-gaurds. They work.
124. Ainsley said:
I just moved my 2 year old into a big bed a few weeks ago. He never tried to climb out, and I thought he would hate the move. I dreaded it for months, but he loved it and the transition was super smooth. I think if you've already established healthy sleep habits in the crib, they'll automatically respond to the new environment.
125. ethanollie said:
transition, smansition...it all becomes the new normal
good luck dooce!
126. Zeynep said:
I thought that this story was especially cute. I can just imagine the naughty Biblical cow getting its due.
127. Jack's Raging Mommy said:
My mother is constantly warning me about Jack climbing out of the crib, partially because he is a climber, and partially because I did it at an unnaturally early age and it's karma.
His room is so not childproof that it scares the hell out of me, but at 15 months he is only beginning to try to figure it out.
God help us once he gets it down, and God help you now that Leta is almost there.
128. TamarisKim said:
One of my friends, whose son needed to move out of the crib in order to make room for the second behbeh, taught her little two year old genius to wait until the right time. They put an alarm clock with large numbers by his new big boy bed and told him not to get out of it until the clock read seven zero zero. He was so excited about the idea of seeing that very number, he would wait. It's still working, four years later. Seeing as Leta is a number-wiz....
129. Fidget said:
I've been amazed that she has lasted so long in a crib. My older one started escaping the crib around 14 months. She was so thin and boney we decided that she would not bounce and ended up tossing a twin mattress on teh floor like some flop house and surrounding it with those interlocking foam puzzle thingies. She was so excited to have a big girl bed that she forgot she could just get up... for a YEAR!
Kid number 2 hit the big girl bed around the same age, she had to um learn... about staying in bed.
She also puts toys in time out, apparently we have some rather lippy dinosaurs as I caughter her, hands on hips, giving those dinosaurs what for over being "sass" mouths
130. monkey said:
I transitioned the bed early as I have this unreasonable fear of my children breaking their neck by diving head first from the crib (William would climb/jump out of spite, Connor would climb/jump out of sheer boredom). However, Connor is a wiggly sleeper, so I keep pillows on the floor in case he rolls out of bed. He does have a problem staying in bed, but a baby gate at least guarantees that he will fall asleep somewhere in the vicinity of his bed.
As for the time out...we tried it today and Connor refused to come out till HE was ready. Gotta love those tantrums.
131. cate said:
I can't read everything, my contacts are stuck to my cornea like gummy bears, so I apologize if this has been said already.
Drop the side of the crib...OK I may be dating my self...do crib sides drop anymore?
Anyway, it was our step to the big girl bed, and she would also be able to get up and pee if need be, "all my byself"
She was a very obedient child like Leta.
Her brother however took the dropped crib rail as an open invitation to bang around the house at will. Not as helpful.
132. Rita Arens said:
The little angel is about three months younger than Leta, but about 300 years behind her in the sleeping-through-the-night department. However, she does love the batshit freedom of a big-girl bed. Some people remove all the toys from their child's room before they attempt this move. I don't advise it. I mean, as long as they aren't shinnying down the side of the house on a rope made from your underwear, who cares, really, as long as they are quiet.
133. doog said:
(looks warmly at receipt for vasectomy)
(says small prayer of thanks)
We return you now to your regular comment-surfing.
134. goodapple said:
I put my son in a toddler bed for the first time when he was around two and a bit. I went through our routine of reading a book and then singing a song and then kisses and hugs and I leave the room and close the door.
Then I laid on the floor and peered under the door until I saw his feet hit the floor and cautiously start to walk across the room.
Then I yelled "git back in bed!" and he FLEW back into bed... we didn't have a single problem for a whole year...
135. Nils Ling said:
With our girls, we did a whole build-up of "Do you think she's old enough to be in a big girls' bed?" "Nah, no way." "I am, too!" "Nah ... she'll just climb out and be bad and not stay in bed. She's too little." "No, I'm not, I'm a big gir!" "Well .. do you think we should try it ...?" "No way, she'll never be able to stay in bed." "yes I will! Yes I will!"
That went on for a few days, until there is a promise of a fristborn male child (as if I'd want one) if we would only relent and give her the opportunity to prove how good she could be. Which we finally, oh-so-grudgingly did ... and had not a problem after that.
Which is good, because my fallback was to scare the shit out of her with the Ankle-Eating Monster under the bed.
136. literatigirl said:
Couldn't figure out if your AlphaMom article was about your inability to dance and how that makes you different from your sister, or if it was about your latest favorite reality TV show.
137. jlf said:
OK, THAT'S IT!!! I am getting my 'tubes tied'.
138. Meranath said:
Hi Heather!
When my best friend's then-two-year old got out of his room early one morning and tried to make scrambed eggs(daddy found him sitting on the kitchen floor in a puddle of a dozen eggs, holding a wooden spoon and a little saucepan) I bought her a locking doorknob for his room. Except I put the lock on the outside.
It looked terrible, but baby gates were never able to hold him and she didn't want him getting to the oven in the middle of the night to finish the job. After about a month, we didn't even have to lock it - he figured out that if his door was shut he should probably stay in there till mom or dad let him out, or if he asked nicely.
139. cailey said:
When we moved into a new house, my little sister's crib magically disapeared and a toddler bed was in it's place (age 2). She saw it as great fun to play in with her toys, but absolutely refused to sleep in it. She repeatedly would climb into bed with me (our rooms were adjoined), which scared the shit out of our mother because my bed was significantly higher than hers.
She rolled all over the bed. I was never surprised to wake up and find her on the end of my bed at my feet. I would reposition her and go back to bed. The few times I tried to put her in her bed after she had fallen asleep in mine were tragic. They DO know the difference! She would wake up screaming and be inconsolable for nearly an hour. So I would usually let her stay with me.
She fell off of my bed maybe five times total. (I don't believe she bounced) For a while we had her toddler bed positioned at the end of my bed as well as pillows surrounding my bed. Most of the time she rolled off of my bed and onto her own. This was the only time she stayed in the bed, because she woke up in my room. Eventually we moved her room so that she could be closer to our mother and not repeatedly wake me up-I did have school in the morning. She has now progressed to a twin bed-but she still falls once in a while. The matress on the floor idea is genius-if a little odd. Good luck with Leta's!
OH, and I concur that you have a beautiful, extremely smart child. And apparently very intimidating to plastic cows!
140. Krisco said:
Because I said so works until they're about 11. That's my guess at when it became REALLY annoying when my own parents could not come up with a better explanation.
141. Kerry said:
I moved my daughter into a big girl bed shortly after her second b-day. She didn't even attempt to get out on her own. She would wait until we came in and got her ever morning and after every nap!! She didn't figure it out for months! You'll be surprised, Leta will probably just yell for you like she does every morning!!! Worth a try if you're thinking about it.
But when they do figure out they can come into bed with you in the middle of night when your defenses are down...gulp, not fun!! wiggly little suckers
142. Eight Hour Lunch said:
Just wait until she discovers that a potty emergency is a get out of jail free card. You just can't can't argue with a four year who is jumping, screaming and dancing like James Brown after a Big Gulp.
143. janellio said:
I don't know if you visit natalie dee, but I saw this and thought of you.
144. trevordlb said:
"Because I said so, damn it!..." I swear I'd never utter such words to children when I grew up, but sometimes in my swim classes, with eight children of about four years old and another eight of about 13 years old, with nothing but smart things to say, I find myself saying it as a plea for mercy, out of shear frustration, not because I can't come up with an articulate response, but because I just don't care... That's right, I said it, I just don't care after the millionth, "but why?!?!?!" Hopefully, I'll learn to be more patient when I have a child of my own, but from what I hear from the parents of the children I teach, I am "remarkably patient..." We'll see...
145. rogueohotog said:
I don't have children but customer service may rival the same amount of patience required. I told a repeat whiner after asking the same questions several times over about why he couldn't trade his stocks after the market closed ... "Because rules are rules and you can't change them."
I felt silly but my whole team applauded me.
P.S. I love your site and your wit.
146. Danelle O'Shea said:
My apologies if one of the 144 people ahead of me said the same thing..I only read up to about 55 or so - lol
The key is to put the big girl bed in her room now. Dress it up with the prettiest bedding and a brand new stuffed "something" (whatever she's into) against the pillow. Tell her this bed is for when you are bigger, but not now. Make it the most wonderful thing to ever happen to her bedroom, but oops - sorry, it's off limits for now. "We have to keep it pretty and nice for when you are bigger!" "Isn't it lovely? Won't it be the funnest thing when you are bigger?"
Then when you think she's ready - or jazzed up enough about it, (I've seen kids BEGGING to graduate to the bed) - start with naps in the bed. Let her set the tone for when she's ready for it, and then when she says she is make sure you take the crib down immediately.
Btw, my kids are 24, 20 and 18 and I still use "Because I said so." I'm a nanny too, so I get to say it to other people's children as well!
PS - I don't know if Leta is potty trained yet but that is always a good tie-in, because they both usually happen at about the same time. "Now that you don't wear diapers, you get a big girl bed!! Squeee!"
147. Karihun said:
So when does the book "Parenting the Dooce Way" come out?
148. Kim E said:
The children who believe 'BECAUSE I SAID SO' all through their childhood really rebel once they figure out that's not so accurate. It usually kicks in around age 14. Just so you know.
149. Barrett said:
When I was a baby, I climbed out of my crib and broke my foot. My mom found me hanging upside-down with my foot trapped between the crib bars.
My right foot still turns inward just a bit.
150. tigerlily said:
Heck. YES.
Definitely using that for the potential kids in the future.
151. callchel said:
holy shit.
thanks for making me laugh, thats priceless.
152. san said:
it might calm your friend down a little, if i tell you that my sister [we're twins] pretty quickly learned how to get out of her crib and make a flip into my bed... she never got hurt.
153. Villarica said:
Re: child injuries: When a friend's toddler broke his wrist, his doctor told him, "As long as all the bones are in the same room, he'll be fine."
154. phredojane said:
First son would have stayed in his crib forever, but along came second son twenty months later. FS had just learned to fall asleep on his own when we moved him to a toddler bed and...it was hell. SS was a super sleeper, even sharing a room with big bro. Around eighteen months SS discovered he could escape the crib to climb into the toddler bed with FS. Would you believe FS began sleeping normally? Amazing. We scrapped the crib and toddler bed and got a pyramid bunk, where they still share the bottom double bed four years later. I really don't know what we'll do with third son when he learns to escape the crib...
So my solution? Add a sibling :)
So my solution? Add a sibling.
155. katieaubergine said:
Be glad you made it this far without her climbing out of the crib...evidently I climbed out of mine at the tender age of 8 months old and frecked the hell out of my parents (who decided it was best to let me sleep with the side of the crib down and sofa cushions on the floor every night). My daughter is only 6 months old, and I pray she takes after her father and not me!!
156. minxlj said:
Putting a cow into time-out....that's just given me the biggest laugh of the week, and now my workmates think I'm nuts since I just told them about a baby giving orders to a biblical cow.
Anyway I think we need another Leta video posted!!
157. Eeyore_784 said:
Hi Heather. This is Debi, I have been reading for years and just signed up for Typepad so I could say GREAT POST. But since it took so long to sign in I figured I would say all I wanted to really quick. Happy Belated Birthday. I am SOOO Relieved Ed is GONE! Looking forward to future enteries that say his relatives are gone. And Last but not least, your photography rocks.
158. jennplas said:
my daughter LOVED her crib. when we got her a big girl bed with a little fold down gate on the side at age 2, she still acted as if it was a crib. she doesn't come out unless i say it is ok. even to go to the washroom. (she is now 4.5) I keep telling her she is allowed to get up to go pee, but she always yells and waits until i say "ok". never has she gotten out of bed after being tucked in. she never did try to climb out of her crib either. i don't think she was brave enough to attempt such a thing.
good luck!
159. Nancy said:
Maybe you'll get lucky with Leta like I did with my daughter . . . the poor girl NEVER learned to climb out of her crib and would have kept sleeping in it until she was 4 if we hadn't moved and decided to put the crib away.
160. Brad Martin said:
I did the climbing out of the crib thing when I was little. After the third time I started throwing a pillow down onto the ground first and then flinging myself at it from the railing. I never landed on it, but that never stopped me from trying. This is all hearsay of course, because I wasn't old enough to remember, and the story comes from my mother who might very well just intend to embarass me. She's right though; I am scrappy.
161. thejoyof said:
You make me want to be ... a better writer ...
On the bright side of this, sometimes the child is so excited to have their own bed that they actually GO to it willfully - on their own! A safety gate at the door helps too.
162. marian said:
My boy destroyed his crib by the time he was two. But the odd thing was that once he got a big boy bed, he never got out of it at night. He'd scream for us to come to him, but he never ventured out. Really odd, when you think of it.
163. Arty Steph said:
Sadly, I am now more willing to have children, only so I can finally convince someone that BECAUSE I SAID SO is a good enough reason for anything. It doesn't seem that anyone in my life falls for it, even my dogs :)
164. Arty Steph said:
Sadly, I am now more willing to have children, only so I can finally convince someone that BECAUSE I SAID SO is a good enough reason for anything. It doesn't seem that anyone in my life falls for it, even my dogs :)
165. Thérèse said:
Ha!
You know of course that because of karma, that bitch, something, somewhere is going to have to balance that out. Since BECAUSE I SAID SO works so very well, she'll probably get her first tattoo at age 6 or so.
Then again, all you'll have to do is say "remove it, child." "Why?" "BECAUSE I SAID SO."
Oh wow. So very powerful.
166. madge said:
A little late to the party here, but...
My daughter jumped, not fell, out of her crib at 18 months. We'd already put a big girl bed in her room and used it for reading and winding down at night. After a period of trying to keep her in the crib, we gave up and took it out of her room.
Despite bed rails and a head and foot board, she'd weasel her way out and fall asleep on the cold, hard wood floor by the gate on her bedroom door. That lasted for about three months. Now she goes to sleep without getting up and only exits her bed when a good 20 minutes of hollering MOMMY! elicits no reponse.
During that time I would tell anyone who asked to keep their kids in the crib as long as possible. Now I see it is the same as everything in this whole child-rearing game: They do things when they're ready.
167. dscokween said:
my kiddo is 3.5 and we run into this a lot. I've finally figured out that space is not as important as time/behavior. She goes in time out where she is sitting, standing or wherever as long as she is crying or whining, or whatever. It's the only way I've gotten time out to work. The only time I use it is when she is really having some sort of behavior issue, otherwise we don't really have problems.
We could never get her to stay in her crib without throwing a tantrum at any time, so I couldn't actually wait to get a big kid's bed.
168. stephanie said:
hoorayyyyyyyy for what now seems to be known as "the supernanny technique"
:)
also, my best friend has two daughters, one 2 and one 4, and she has been locking the 4 year old in for some time. i know that sounds awful, but it was the only thing left she could do so this girl would finally get "okay, it's time for bed, i really can't come out anymore" my best friend had to change the locks and the doorknobs because she would figure everything out and escape. she was always in a little bed though, i definitely could NOT hear my kid take a fall out of a crib and just think "oh well!" so, sometimes she slept in the bed, sometimes on the floor, sometimes without any clothes, but she slept. [and she sleeps good too, and late, which i love since i'm the guest crashing on the living room couch who does not wish to be awakened by a screaming baby at 5am, wandering out and smacking her flailing arms into my face.]
whatever works.
169. kristen pisten said:
My daughter knows she can climb out of bed and on occasion has. Instead she'd rather have us do for her, choosing to continue to use us as her servants by getting her out of bed, helping her get dressed, etc.
170. planck's constant said:
All this transition stuff is silly. Children should sleep with their parents until they decide they want their own bed. This is how it has been for 10,000 years until recently when people who want to rear unwelcome strangers in their homes came on the scene. They are your children. I know people who treat their dogs better than they do their own children.
If they don't sleep with you they grow up hateful and unsocial like many young animals today. Even monkeys in the wild have better child-rearing habits. Look at how they rear their young. Chimpanzees are smart enough to build cribs but they don't. Why? Because it is unnatural to imprison your own young during the period in their lives that they most need to be nurtured.
And as for timeouts: This has to be the silliest parenting concept I have ever heard. They are children for God's sake not recalcitrant convicts. Unless your child sticks a knife into your eye, timeouts only teach your child that power and might are more important than understanding and communication.
I have seen studies that the most egregious abusers of time outs are the same people who were similarly molested as children.
So stop the cycle. Become real, loving parents, not custodians.
171. Kate G. said:
My parents put me in a "big girl bed" early enough that I didn't know that I could get out of it. I would lay in bed yelling, "Mommy! Daddy! I'm ready to get up now! You can come and get me!" I'm planning on doing the same thing with my daughter. We all know how well planning works with kids, so we'll see...
172. jensings said:
Beautiful photo today.
173. Kendra said:
My mom used to say "because I said so," too. Worked every time.
Your post is another reminder to me to lower that mattress in her crib. I'll probably forget again. Maybe put a bunch of pillows underneath the crib?
I don't like the lock-in idea, though. Seems unsafe.
Love the colors in the masthead--and the content, too, as always.
174. TJames said:
Certain I will be comment #173, saying the same thing, I'm rolling with it anyway. At 18 months, baby Hunter began clambering out of the crib like a cracked out monkey. We lowered the crib, bought those funky tent cover thingys, surrounded the crib with pillows, etc. Finally I took my Mother in Law's advice (it really killed me) and put him in a twin bed.
He is now 2. He never climbed out of bed again. I think he's still in there somewhere...
Love your site. It's the reason I get out of bed half the week.
xoxoxo
175. katy66 said:
Our daughter started gettingout of her crib at 20 months. One moring, I walked in and she was standing at teh side waiting to be let out, then next I woke up to her hovering over my body saying WAKE UP!
She never disregarded nap time though. It was if putting her in there required at least some sleep before she would allow herself out.
176. elle942 said:
My 2 year old daughter hasn't figured out the crib thing, but for time out, we sit her on a special carpet square. Many times, she has put her baby doll on the square and said "Bad girl, bad girl! Sit down!" We never tell her that she is a "bad girl" so I guess she picked that up from us saying it to our dog. Oops.
177. Lost in Idaho said:
In my experience, this is largely dependent on the child versus any parenting technique or strategy. In the case of time out, both of my children stay in the corner until they're given permission to leave. The crib and bed, however, are a different story. My five-year-old began climbing out of his crib at two and is now the first one out of bed in the morning. My six-year-old never tried climbing out of her crib and only recently stopped calling to me in the morning to ask permission to get up. (I never asked her to do it--she just did.)
178. laurengdesigns said:
We put our daughter in a bed on her 2nd birthday exactly. We also made a rule while she was 2 that she had to wait for an adult to come get her when she woke up. It was just too hard to explain to a toddler that getting up to go potty was ok (i know you're not there yet, but you will be there soon!), but getting up to kiss the doll goodnight in the living room was not ok.
179. Jacqui said:
I was walking unassisted at eight months. I also was a crib jail-breaker. My dad found me dancing on top of the dining room table with a box of raisin bran, emptying the contents onto the table and having a grand ol' time. Needless to say, I was relegated to a mattress on the floor after that. Firm discipline didn't stop me and I still do my best to undermine authority. But I think I turned out rather well. And I'm still dancing.
180. melissa said:
I recommend the following: 1) Make picking the big girl bed a big deal. Take her with you and she'll try out the beds - buy the one you want. Maybe Elmo sheets would be in order as well. 2) Use a baby gate to keep her in her room. 3) If you know she's up and wants out, just tell her to get back in bed, and don't go to her. Wait for the patter of feet heading back to bed (prepare for the whimpers as well). Couple days and it'll be fine. Sophia (almost 4 now) loves her big girl bed and has since she got it (right before her 3rd birthday). She also knows that at 4 no more gate (and no more pacifiers). Good luck.
181. radiantfire said:
you're the bees knees heather. i'm addicted to your sordid tales of motherhood and misceleny...
182. Sugarsnap said:
Speaking of time-outs, I saw something really interesting at the San Francisco Gift Show. At first I thought it was the most ridiculous thing, a stuffed animal with a kitchen timer in its stomach. Then I saw the marketing pitch, a Time-Out Stuffed Animal. So the kid gets the animal for comfort while the timer tickes away. I don't know what they do with the toy when the time is up, but I thought it was a good idea. It wasn't that expensive, and the stuffed animals were adorable. I'm sure you will be seeing them in the stores soon. I wish I would have had one when my daughter was younger, since she spent most of her early childhood in time-out prison.
183. timmit said:
God. This brings back memories of my daughter at age three, brushing her doll's hair yelling "HOLD STILL! DO YOU HEAR ME?" while gritting her teeth.
I was a single mom ... slightly stressed ... I don't know how she made it through the first five years of her life.
184. madelinesmom said:
Laughing out loud at work... :) I found you through http://6yearmed.blogspot.com... You really cracked me up! My daughter turned 2 in May and has not grasped the "B/c I say so," when I say it, but says it back to me already. She hates her toddler bed, but will sleep by herself in a full size bed fine... go figure.... good luck making the big switch.
185. coraspartan said:
I have been lurking here for awhile, but this entry prompted me to finally dive in and comment. First, the comment about Chuck is hilarious! My dog does the same thing. If we come home after she has eaten/destroyed something around the house, she looks so guilty we know something is up! She lays in front of the couch with her face on her paws, her ears laid back on her head and her tail tucked between her legs. Of course, we immediately make a full sweep of the house and inevitably find the damaged/eaten item (or evidence like an empty hamburger bun bag).
I have to admit that I have used, "Because I said so" since my son was about Leta's age. He's now 13. I still use it, although to less effect. Now after I say it, he asks, "But really, why?" So it's getting to the point where I'm going to have to give it up soon. I obviously use this phrase a lot, as a I received a shirt with the phrase on it as a gift one year.
The other phrase used often by me is, "Life isn't fair. Get used to it." This is always my response to, "That's not fair!" My son may get pissed when I say this, but he generally accepts that response and stalks off to sulk somewhere.
Good luck with the bed transition! What worked for us was just incessantly pointing out that he was getting a big boy bed. He was so proud of being a big boy that we never had any problems with the transition.
186. NikkiB said:
Just don't be surprised when Leta informs you that "Because I said so" is not enough information. I used that until about 4 when my daughter looked at me with her big brown eyes and said, "But why do you say so Mommy?"
As far as the "big girl bed" transition, I had no problems with either of my girls. We made a huge deal about it and talked about what we expected of them and then took them shopping so they could pick out their own new sheets. My girls LOVE shopping and always have, unfortunately they're only 3 and 8, so we're in trouble!
187. g33kgrrl said:
You know, my mom was just telling me how after I learned to get out of my crib, they told me rather emphatically that I couldn't leave my room until the morning. Of course, in the morning they couldn't open my door because I was sleeping right up against it. (Mom also made sure to tell me that I must have woken up in the middle of the night and then fallen asleep there, because she and Dad checked on me before they went to sleep. Heh.)
But hey! I turned out ok, even with floor-sleeping! (And apparently, I did pay attention to the "because we said so" argument...)
188. cil said:
We were those 'keep the kids in bed with you' parents (because I nursed my kids till they were two and didn't want to wake up while doing it). The first two were difficult from my end to get out of our bed...I missed them. The third, though, I couldn't wait to have her own bed. We transitioned them at around 3 years old and they all loved their big kid beds and we never had a problem. We had them pick out their bed, their sheets, their pillow and it made them feel more ownership of their bed. Not one of them made a fuss about changing to a regular bed. If you are afraid of them falling out, we used to put a chair next to the bed for a while because if they roll over the edge of the bed the chair will catch them and they will actually 'fall' standing up....no hurt! It's pretty cool how it works.
189. rosey said:
Reading about Chuck made me think of this article/clip that has been cracking me up about a security dog mauling Elvis' teddy bear:
LONDON, Aug. 3 — For these teddy bears, it was no picnic.
On Tuesday night, at a tourist attraction called Wookey Hole Caves in western England, Barney, a Doberman pinscher guard dog, briefly went berserk, running amok among a collection of teddy bears, including a 1909 German Steiff bear called Mabel reputed to have belonged, once upon a time, to Elvis Presley.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/04/world/europe/04teddy.html?_r=1&ei=5087...
and here's the video (you have to sit through the commercial first):
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/scp_v3/viewer/index.php?pid=16598&rn=49750&...
190. KaraMia said:
hahahaha..that goes away fast! lol
191. InterstellarLass said:
Once mine started climbing out of cribs, I took the crib sides off and moved them to a bed. I came in to find my daughter dangling by her arm, which was wrapped over and stuck backwards on the inside of the rail. She got a toddler bed soon after.
192. Momof2Terrors said:
I found you're page by accident while surfing at work (don't tell anyone) the other day. I actually was laughing out loud in my office!! It sounds like our daughters are alike. Mine just turned 2 last month, and her new favourite phrase is "DON'T WANT TO" yep..gotta love them, She, thankfully still stays in her crib...I am dreading the day we must make the move...hopefully she just take the crib when she moves out in 18 years!! Jamie
193. Gooseberried said:
I have this strange ability to remember many many things from my early childhood right down to small details. I remember when I was younger, my parents bought my "big girl" bed and put it in my room next to my crib. They then treated the big girl bed as a prize. If I was a good girl, I got to take a nap in my new bed. Eventually, I was allowed to sleep in my new bed and because of this, I thought my new bed was the coolest thing that existed.
The other day, I googled dooce and discovered that you (your name) is a term in the Wikipedia encyclopedia. That is so cool!
194. KellyC said:
Heather, you'll be so glad you're parenting Leta the way you are. Keep up the great work - you stern timeout-giver you!
195. fixedupgirl said:
I only wish(!!) that you had captured the scolding of the delinquent cow on video. Now that would have really been hilarious!
If you have managed to ensnare her into believing your word is above all else, you are the master mom.
Seriously.
But, I have a sense that she's going to bust that notion soon. :)