I Left My Baby in San Francisco
I think I've already established that I'm not so good at this Mother thing, what with not picking up my baby or loving her enough and all the times I've wrapped her up like a mummy in dangerous paper towels and left her to scream in the middle of the street.
In the weeks leading up to Leta's birth I received several gifts from friends, including infant clothing and receiving blankets, breast pads and tiny nail clippers. I remember looking at all the stuff and wondering, "What the hell do you do with a breast pad? Can you eat these things?" because I had NO EARTHLY IDEA what I was getting myself into. I honestly thought that the baby would come with all the clothes she needed. After giving birth to the baby and the placenta, I thought a whole package of cotton onesies would shoot out the birth canal, followed closely by several nightgowns and a six-pack of tiny pink socks. I had gained so much weight that I was certain Leta would arrive with luggage.
I've learned a lot in the last five months. I've learned that babies don't necessarily like to be dangled by their toes from the rooftop or to have their mouths clamped shut with clothespins. Duct tape works better at silencing the screaming than swings or strollers or diaper changes. I'm now an expert when it comes to breast pads (no, you cannot eat these things), and I can shoot breast milk at a target thirty feet away.
Jon and I are totally neurotic first-time parents, and we're learning how to do this whole thing day by day. I will admit that he is a little less neurotic than I am, and he doesn't throw things or growl or serve as a host body for Satanic demons. But every night we take inventory of what we've learned and add it to our notebook of parenting: Leta likes to be outside; Leta does not like the vacuum cleaner or other obnoxiously violent noises; Leta likes the book about the ladybug, does not like the book about the rocking horse; Leta will stop screaming if you sing her that new Morrissey song about forgiving Jesus for all the desire he placed in me when there's nothing I can do with this desire, and please don't sing it in your normal voice, you must sing it in your Morrissey voice, because SHE KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE, you stupid parent people.
Last week we were feeling a bit over-confident in our baby skills and made the monumentally insane decision to click the "Book Now" button on two plane tickets to San Francisco (Leta will be traveling for free, on my lap). We made this decision after two screamless days and after a shot or two of whiskey -- bourbon is good for the baby as it gives her liver practice for the hard life ahead. In that frame of mind we were thinking that not only could we travel with this baby, but also that she should have eight or nine brothers and sisters! There are actual days when babies don't scream! How cute is that! Let's have MORE non-screaming babies! Pour me another shot!
After the screamlessness wore off we were sort of confronted with the fact that shit, we're going to travel with this baby? What idiot made that decision? [points finger firmly in the direction of She who serves as host body for Satanic demons] HOW THE HELL DO YOU TRAVEL WITH A BABY?
No seriously, I'm asking you, how the hell do you travel with a baby? We have no idea what we're doing. Keep in mind that Leta rarely sleeps anywhere but in her crib, and she never falls asleep on our shoulder or in the stroller. How the hell will she fall asleep in San Francisco? Are there cribs in San Francisco?
Do you have any tips, other than to shoot myself?
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1. Kristine said:
Travel light. Take only twice what you think you will need, not 10X. Don't bring ever implement you have, you can cut her toenails when you get home. They sell diapers in San Francisco, too. I always carry the car seat on the plane in the hopes there's a spare seat and the baby can be strapped in the seat instead of in my lap (safer and saner). If not, they'll check the thing right at the gate with your stroller, which you will roll to the gate with all your stuff. You get to pre-board, too! Cool! Bring the Bjorn, the D-70 and then just go with the flow. Have fun and remain calm, Leta will be calmer and (hopefully) you will, too. Oh, and breastfeed her on takeoff if you can, it helps keep her little ears from popping.
2. WindyLou said:
I have heard that baby tylenol works wonders........but that might fall into the paper-towel chewing category of no-no's.
3. Beerzie Yoink said:
Got any Vicodin left over from the birth?
4. Pookins said:
I would think that the main thing would be to make sure she is eating when you take off and land. I hate the pressure on my ears and it must be miserable for a baby who can't clear them. Sucking on a breast or bottle would remove that. It wouldhelp prevent the screaming at least.
5. Beerzie Yoink said:
(For you, not her.)
6. pink said:
shoot leta.
7. Valerie said:
My sister and I recently traveled to Chicago from Reno with her 7 month old. The hotel did have a play pen for him to sleep in and he slept well. On the plane we just had tons of treats and entertaining things...he didn't do so great on the plane but we had a 3 1/2 hour flight and you'll only have about an hour and 1/2 so maybe she'll make it... :-) Good luck, you'll be fine.
8. Val said:
Find as many implements on the SF end as you can to borrow -- a car seat specifically. Yes to the breast feeding on take off and landing. Especially landing. ESPECIALLY. Flight attendants love to hold babies.
9. Courtney said:
I too am faced with this conundrum. Fi is heading out to basic only a month before baby is born, so we will attempt to venture down to good ole Fort Benning, GA where daddy will be sweating his but off and we will be crying.
anywho, I have heard that the bjorn carriers are fabulous, and ia gree with the above poster about her ears, make sure she has a bottle or, pacifier-oh scratch that as I just remembered the drama from just a few weeks ago.
good luck
-Courtney
10. Elizabeth said:
LOL -- No idea how you travel with a baby -- guess I refrained from the necessary alcohol intake to make that decision! But I promise to laugh lots at watching you try it! :-)
Seriously, we did do a long weekend once -- my car recorded temperatures of over 100 degrees. Point #1: Keep everyone cool.
Point #2: Evaluate everything you're bringing and decide if you really need it -- 'cause it turned out that we never used the bouncy seat. Preserve your lugging energy for the things you really can't live without -- like the favorite stuffed bunny/dog/duck. Otherwise, as long as you have face wipe diapers, drool bibs, and baby butt wipes, you can handle anything -- you can buy whatever you forget.
Good luck!
11. Regan said:
Do they make baby nyquil? Or baby benedryl?
12. Laura J. said:
Oh my gosh -- an opportunity to post a comment! You are so funny and it is so obvious how much you love that kid -- in spite of some of the things you write that completely and totally shock me senseless!
Most hotels have cribs available -- just ask the front desk. Bring blankies from home that smell like home -- if it works for a puppy, maybe it will work for Leta. But no matter how difficult it may get, resist the temptation to buy a binkie. It's a high price to pay after all your hard work in detox.
Enjoy your trip!
13. Hilary said:
Whatever you do, DON'T try to change the baby in the airplaine bathroom. And be prepared to sing in public!
14. Jen Blake said:
Well, after more long trips in the car than I can count in the last months (a 11 hour drive coming up this weekend!) with the now 7 month old Coleman, I can offer the following advice: if you do not have a pack n play it makes a great temporary crib, but hotels also have cribs if you give them warning (check for safety- some are OLD). Also, it is Benadryl that you want to drug her with- check with the nurse at her pediatrican's office for dosage and you need to try it at home first because it may make her hyper instead of out cold (as said by nurse at OUR pediatricians office who happily supplied us with benadryl, syringe and dosage info). I agree with buying diapers there instead of travelling with a ton of them, and you can also wash clothes at a laundromat if you need to instead of packing all 25 pair of pink pajamas. Do take along medecines and sunblock so you don't have to hunt for them when you need them most. AND take lots of compact flash cards for the d-70 or a laptop to dump the images on... you'll need the space. Enjoy!
15. Reader said:
I will agree with the taking just twice what you would normally and not 10 times, and DEFINATELY breast feed her on take off and landing. If you don't have any moral objection, which after reading your blog for a while, I realize you don't, give her some baby tylenol before the flight. And if she screams, so what. Every flight I've been on there's been a fussy baby. At least it's a short one. And you're going to San Fran, not East India. There will be drugstores on every corner with all the stuff you'll forget. Just bring the portable crib if you have one or can borrow one. Bring a slew of onesies. Sure as hell, if you bring the whole "cute" wardrobe, she'll throw up all over it. DON'T PANIC. She'll probably do much better than you. Oh, be sure her blankie hasn't been washed so it smells like her.
16. Meg said:
If you are staying at a hotel, most ~DO~ have cribs, or at least Pack-n-Plays. (Call ahead to ask/reserve one. Most hotels don't charge for their use.)
Also, don't forget, a roll of quarters takes up a lot less space than extra clothes. I'm sure that they have a laundromat SOMEWHERE in San Francisco.
Since you're nursing, don't forget to take a snack for yourself for travel time - you never know about delays!
17. Jen said:
Forget the Bjorn and the nail clippers. Bring the bourbon for you AND her.
18. bellacara said:
Actually, I think you are going to have a great time and Leta will just love it..giving you a false sense that you can take her anywhere, but that will change after 8 months when all she will want to do is crawl (or try to walk) everywhere. This is an incredible age to travel. Enjoy!
19. alyssa said:
decide how much your sanity is worth and invest in a nanny and a third plane ticket in the back of the plane. :) kidding, obviously. i'm sure you'll be fine.
20. Jae said:
Dear Dooce and Lady Leta,
We had a screamer too. And I traveled with him. The flight out of SLC wasn't bad. I nursed him at take off and he fell asleep. The flight home was worse... much worse. But I won't tell you that story. Even if Leta screams the whole way home you'll have an interesting story to post here about the angry man who asked you to sit in the bathroom with your screaming baby.
They do make children's Benadryl and I know how to figure out how much to give a tiny baby. Baby doses of Benadryl can either knock them out for a long winter's nap or wire them up so that they look like they're on speed. So it's a gamble.
They do have cribs in hotels, but I ended up sleeping with my screamer because the unfamiliar crib was a scary thing for him. But at least you'll have options.
Now, because I'm taking up way too much room already - leave most of the baby gear home. Take a stroller and the Bjorn, oh and some booze for the both of you should Leta find out that SF is really hell on wheels. And protest audibly the entire time.
21. Sefeffa said:
Well, as a non-married, non-parent kinda girl, I can offer no advice on luggage and things of that nature. However, as a frequent flyer, I can say that I agree with Kristine and go with the breastfeeding advice or bring something for the little Leta to suck on (and to think, after the fact of The Weaning of the Dreaded Pacifier). I always feel so horrible for the parents and especially the little babes on takeoff when they're screaming their fool heads off because of the air pressure. So, as being one of those parents that could really do without said screaming, as enough of that occurs in regular air pressure, be sure to take that advice and good luck - I'm sure it's MUCH less stress than you imagine.
22. amylee said:
The best advice I read about travelling with babies came out of a book someone got me: If the baby freaks out and howls for the entire flight, do what you can to *look* like you are trying to calm her and keep reminding yourself that you will *never* see these people again.
I had the same sort of thoughts going through my head before I got on a plane (by myself - a 2-hour flight) with my 4-month-old daughter. She cooed to everyone in the airport, fell asleep promptly upon takeoff and woke up cooing again at landing. I don't know who swapped *my* baby for that peaceful, quiet creature (and swapped them back as soon as we were in the airport) but I was grateful.
She's been on 4 flights since and has acted the same way each time. A couple of times she woke up fussy, but I stuck my boob in her mouth and she went back to sleep.
The added benefit was that if there was ANY open seats on the airplane, both passengers and airline staff worked out a way for me to have a row all to myself. *That* was cool.
Good luck.
23. lorrie said:
Baby Benadryl. Get the clear stuff in case she is allergic to the red dye. Try it in advance to make sure that it doesn't make her more hyper, seems to do so in about 1 out of 20 kids. Dose liberally. It won't hurt her a bit.
24. Kate said:
As someone with no baby, I am, of course, an expert. I don't know whether you bottle feed her yet (your milk) but that is often better than breast feeding on a plane. Also bring lots of entertaining things to do...books and toys (none that beep). For an hour and a half you should be fine. Even if she screams like a MF it's not for that long. It's a good practice run for the future.
In future I would buy a seet for the baby and strap her into the car seat.
As a childless person I never mind the screaming 5-6 month old, I mind the whiney 2 year olds. A 2 year-old knows the score and you can bring things for them to do. They're eating solids and cookies and you can bring them lots of snacks. There is no excuse for them to whine. A 6 month old, well, we all know there's very little the parents can do. Don't sweat it.
25. Karan said:
If you plan to rent a car, ask for a baby seat...if you don't rent one, go to Toys R Us and buy one, then either leave it with the folks you visit or donate it. Don't give Leta a bottle or a boob (so she's hungry) until the plane is taking off...that way her ears will pop as she sucks saving lots of grief on the plane. Travel light...but interesting....new chewies/toys for Leta. She'll like looking at the people around her, so hoist her up to look...but make sure she's not too full because she'll hurl on the neighboring passengers. If you think you'll need two diapers on the plane, take four. Record her favorite songs and play them for her...quietly. Get a blow horn to blast at all the nasty comments and looks you'll get on the plane. Have fun. It's really not so bad...really.
26. Elisa said:
Okay, every natural wholesome mother, please close your eyes now.
The tip: babies will not nurse when you want them to or you'll nurse them to keep her quiet as everyone is boarding the plane and hating you for having brought a baby, so she's too stuffed to eat at the appropriate time (for ear popping). So, bring a lollipop and give her a couple of tastes at landing and take off. She'll love the flavor and will swallow, hungry or not, all the sweet drool that she produces.
Go to a dollar store and stock up on throwaway stuff. Think mini-flashlights, every plastic toy you can score i.e. dinasour, shark, whatever, that you can buy 2 minutes of occupied time with. And in the future, make those red-eye flights since she'll be more apt to sleep then.
Do NOT give her benadryl to make her sleepy without firsthand knowledge that she reacts like that. In some infants, it wires them and you hate to find that out on the plane.
And relax yourself. Babies pick up on your feelings - so she'll pick up your stress. Its okay if you have a drink (read - one or have a designated parent!)if you can't get over the stress of this first time adventure.
It'll be fine! I've traveled many times with my 3 and have never been banned or chased by a mob yet.
27. Jen said:
I've found that traveling with my son is NEVER as bad as I expected. The first time we flew with him he was 7 months old – we flew from CA to Florida — WITH layovers. All told, two takeoffs, two landings, about 6 hours total travel time. I fully expected to have to be "that mom" — the one with the screaming infant that the other passengers throw evil darts at with their eyes. But we were so pleasantly surprised. He slept almost the entire way — took a bottle on the way up and the way down and in general totally surprised the hell out of us. And Heather, I think you and Jon know a helluva lot more than you give yourselves credit for. You're gonna be fine. Best of luck!
28. Amber said:
I've found that the things I dreaded the most with my daughter, such as travelling, always turned out just fine and if she screams oh well. Chalk it up to one more day as being a parent. Just be thankful you do breastfeed...no having to warm bottles up on the plane!
29. Kevin said:
It sounds horrible, but it doesn't hurt the kid... give her some baby benadryl about 20 minutes before you board and she should sleep through the flight. She should have something spongy she can chew on during takeoff and landing (for the ear-popping). Also, bring lots of little snacks like cheerios and pretzels. And when all else fails, just remember that the flight from SLC to SF isn't that long, and screaming is good exercise.
30. elyse said:
i have absolutely no baby experience (yay, college!), but since i adore you and your family i thought i'd try a suggestion: maybe organize some pretend trips over the weekend? i know a car's no airplane, but it's kind of got the motion and lack of space for maneuvering. if she can sit in your lap for a good hour and half and be good, or bad (oh teh nos!), maybe you'll get a better feel for the trip. it's like training for a marathon, haha.
best of luck!
all my wellwishing is to you guys.
<- elyse
31. Abbey said:
YOU ROCK as a mom. With all the other things you have figured out, I know this will just come to you. Best advice this motherless girl has ever heard? A baby senses it's mother's emotions. As long as you stay calm, Leta should follow suit. If you are anxious, she will feel that anxiety and start screaming her little heart out. And if you get drunk...well, back to strengthening her liver - go lady friend go
32. Karan said:
Don't medicate your baby unless she's sick...that's abuse. There's this stuff I used with my daughter...Lavender Massage Oil...you gently massage it into the baby's feet and it has natural calming properties for both you and Leta. I don't know if it's the oil or massage that does the trick but it works, smells nice and is legal.
33. Andrea said:
I took my daughter to *China* (once with husband when she was 9 months, once alone when she was 3), so if I can survive that, you can survive this. We took the carseat and lucked out an an empty seat on every leg of the flight, but your trip will not be quite so long, so you might be able to survive without (but remember you will at least need to borrow or rent a carseat when you arrive). Pack a couple of new toys that she's never seen to play with on the plane. Or even something ordinary like scotch tape. Best to supervise, but babies will play with scotch tape forever :) A baby carrier (Baby Bjorn, sling, etc.) is good for going through the airport so you have another hand free. Don't try to carry her in the carseat through the airport, too inconvenient. Check the stroller, but put it on the luggage cart, because again, if you can just use a carrier, you'll have more hands for other things. If you nurse her or give her a bottle at takeoff and landing, it will help her ears not to hurt. This is probably the most likely reason she might scream on an airplane. You will be fine!!!
34. anna said:
children's gravol is the way to go. it will knock her on her ass safely - unlike medicating her with benedryl and tylenol. are those other people fucking nuts? also, make sure she is toasty warm. planes tend to be freezers which makes it really uncomfortable for an underdressed baby. you too - it really bites nursing a baby when your nipples are icicles.
children are perfect little travellers - especially babies - they are portable and don't give a shit if they have clean clothes or a crib to sleep in. it is the parents that will make the trip enjoyable - not the baby that will ruin it. just chill and leta will chill. all will be fine.
oh, and a shot of bourbon never hurt anyone - or two or three for that matter!
35. baby said:
we took our 2.5 mnth old on a 10 day road trip from seattle to monterey then over to las vegas. the pac n play is what saved us. ask for one at your hotel or borrow one. bring your own baby sheets. we got to know our baby much better on the trip since we were always playing with her instead of always doing laundry, cleaning or cooking. unfortunately the baby did discover tv while on the trip... and it wasn't just normal tv, it was cable tv - a definite luxury for the whole family.
36. Kimarino con Bambino said:
Don't give her Benadryl. Even if every damn person in your family swears "Benadryl works wonders on flying babies! It unclogs their ears! It knocks them out!". Don't do it- sometimes Benadryl has the opposite effect and makes the kid wired and crabby. My son smacked the flight attendant. Seriously. But, I learned if your baby smacks a flight attendant and she is a bitch about it-you can write the company and will be granted 20,000 free frequent flier miles. Score!
37. anna jr. said:
one thing i can think of is to make sure you book the side of the plane w/ only 2 seats.
that way it's just you 3 in the row and is she decides to flail about you won't have some guy siting next to you that is trying to play solitaire on his laptop (for godsakes - and what is WRONG with that baby????).
also - dress her up in the cutest outfit you have so that if she's freaking out she will at least look good doing it.
oh - and make sure you announce LOUDLY to everyone in earshot that it is HER FIRST TIME ON A PLANE AND THE POOR THING IS SCARED OF ALL THE PEOPLE AND LOUD NOISES AND DOES ANYONE HAVE SOME BOURBON????!!!!
you can do this on the way back too, actually, as long as you are not on the plane with the same people.
and i don't even have kids.
man, i'm gonna be such a good mom......
38. lavenderoil said:
I'm all for natural, but using lavender oil on a small plane with limited air ventilation? Are you serious? That stuff is STRONG, not to mention very oily. What a nightmare waiting to happen. Yeah, use lavender oil and then you'll have a screaming baby, a messy lap, AND a plane full of people with migranes.
If the pediatrician-approved Benadryl solution scares you and you want to try something more granola, try massaging her feet with some baby lotion with lavender in it.
39. rob said:
my parents would pin a twenty to my collar, put me on a plane and wish me the best of luck.
i'm going to use duct tape.
40. beth said:
From a Fragmented Mom; I should tell you this in person, but its a mouthful and when do you have time for a mouthful... We are watching PBS kids (Reading rainbow with Lavarre Burton. You may know him as Jordy from Star Trek), and well you know Eli wants to watch something else and they are both screaming and Ok, we will put The Little Bear Movie On...
Back on Topic: When Kyle was thirteen months old we counted and realized that he had flown twenty-three times. Are we crazy? Yes.
His first flight was pure hell (if you read my father's day post, you will see why. I was misinformed on giving the little guy drugs. HE WAS TOO YOUNG for cold medicine!) Note, Kyle was only three months old on his first flight. As you know, that is a big difference between five or six months old. (A six month old can handle the other drugs better than just having Tylenol.) I always went fort he Benydryl. Also we always arrived at the airport a little early and went and talked to the gate attendant in our most friendly voice to see if we could have an aisle and a window seat. If you can finagle this seating arrangement then Leta can come on board in her car seat where you can strap it into the window seat (All airlines will only let you strap car seats into the window seat.) Sure you can pick her up, but if there is turbulence, well, you know... When we thought enough ahead of time we would just reserve an aisle and a window seat.
We still had to worry about someone taking the middle seat and that is why we still arrived early. We could usually talk the gate attendant into kicking the person out of the middle seat by saying something like, "Boy you look great in that Blue Delta Uniform. You are the nicest Delta Employee ever."
On board I always had a Manic/Neurotic amount of items to occupy the kid. On flights when Kyle would not cooperate we made sure to look at everyone around us and assure them with our words and knowing glances that we were just firs-time parent and we sure did appreciate their understanding. It's all about P.R.
Finally, best tip ever given to me. Nurse Leta on the way up and the way down. It helps pressurize her ears. There is nothing, I mean nothing worse than a baby with a bad Earache.
You guys will do great. Thank God San Francisco is a short flight. You can borrow our port-a-crib if you need too. Most hotels have them, but as a Neurotic parent we always took ours along.
I am sure there is more, but I should leave space for the others and pay attention to my own children.
41. Zoot said:
Hopefully - you'll be suprised as I was that my son LOVES traveling, in any form. But just in case...
I would say - bring many things she's familiar with and try, getting her used to sleeping other places (couch, floor, etc) before yo leave, but you sleep NEXT to her, for comfort.
I wish you luck though. Hang in there. And expect the worse, so if its NOT the worst? You'll be able to pat yourself on the back.
42. Kate said:
be careful with the baby drugs; my sister took her son on a trip to florida last summer and decided to try the baby benedryl. instead of having the calming, drowsy effect, my nephew was wide awake and moody the whole miserable flight. maybe baby valium or xanax would work better. oh and don't forget the duct tape!
have a great time!
43. Jae said:
OMG, I forgot - WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT BOARD EARLY. You know, they let anyone with kids or anyone missing limbs or whatever, board the plane early. While this seems like a nice idea, don't do it. Send Jon in first to get your seats and take all of your gear. Then wait with Leta in the airport. Delay the whole plane scene for as long as you can, then board last. If you get on first, you'll end up sitting there in the plane, in that confined place while you wait for all of the slow people to HURRY UP AND SIT DOWN ALREADY!
44. Frilly said:
I have no advice that hasn't been covered already. I do remember travelling with my Mum at a young age - as long as I got enough sleep, life was good, even a little exciting! Best of luck to you both.
45. ani said:
Ask the hotel if they have any travel cribs for babies. Most due. Try to bring a few items you can carry on to keep her occupied on the plane. Maybe bring a small stroller so you don't carry her all the time off the plane. Consult your doctor about what to do with the ear popping thing.Good luck.
46. ac said:
i say just check the baby and let the baggage people worry about all this. what are we paying these people for, anyway?
47. Lindsey said:
Things To Pack...
1.) Earplugs
2.) Scotch
3.) Duct Tape
4.) Vodka
5.) Rope/Bungee Cords
6.) Gin
7.) Sedatives
8.) Whiskey
9.) MAOI Inhibitor (IV form)
10.) More Liquor
48. Christina said:
Okay so I second (or third, or fourth, whatever) the nursing duing landing and take-off. Also, tylenol or benedryl are good choices too. Make sure you try to benedryl at home prior to travel, because like someone already mentioned, it can make babies hyper. If the hotel doesn't have cribs, just request a room with a king size bed and have her sleep with you. It doesn't mess a babies sleep patterns up too much, and there should be no trouble with her going back to her crib once your home.
Since I live in SF (or close to), let me tell you, bring lightweight clothes for the day and warm clothes for evenings. I'm sure you've been here before, so you know how the weather is. Tata! Have a great trip!!!
49. Dave Thomas said:
You want to talk neurotic? The only thing any of our (4) babies have ever slept in is a PortaCrib, because although it brings a little slice of white trash into our home, it also brings a little slice of home wherever we wish the brats to sleep.
If I don't get the Nobel Parenting Prize for that one, I'm giving Sweden the silent treatment.
50. stella said:
Put her in the overhead compartment storage, seems like the perfect size. Just be careful when you open the door after landing. Items may have shifted during the flight.. haha. maybe freeze some bourbon, I mean ice cubes for her to suck on. yall have fun!
51. erika said:
You guys are awesome parents!
Don't forget to have at least one spare outfit for Leta and a spare shirt for you in your carry-on, for that precious moment when Lena grabs your bourbon off that tiny tray and flings it. Bring teething rings and frozen bagels, chewy things are helpful. My kids were always so worn out just from the airport experience that they'd fall asleep on the boob once we boarded and stay that way for hours, provided I didn't move an inch. Change her right before boarding, some planes have no changing table in the bathroom and forbid you from changing her in the cabin- seriously! Pack very light, and have a wonderful time. Babies at this age are as portable as it gets, travel as much as you can now before the whiny years begin.
52. Amy S said:
If the flights only about 2 hours and you factor in an hour or so at each airport you only really need a small diaper bag With 3/4 diapers, butt wipes, a bib/burp cloth, recieving blanket and a few toys. OK throw in a few nursing pads. Also I found these neat little Gerber treats that melt in babies mouths. Maybe trying to give her new treats will help keep her occupied and it should be amusing (as it always is) to watch our children try new things. Looks like you are getting some good advice from all types (parents and non parents). Good Luck. Oh, for good measure, throw some paper towels in the diaper bag too....hehe
53. Skatemom said:
If she were older I'd recommend a DVD player so she could zone out on Disney movies, but since she's not.... I agree with the lollipop thing. And make sure to take extra clothes on board for you, not just her. If she urps, it's likely to be on you as well. Not that she will, but better safe than sorry.
And books -- take lots of books. Good luck!
54. melissa said:
we're faced with the same thing - thinking about this weekend's trip to new jersey (new jersey!) is like staring into the gaping maw of a sleepless, cranky hell.
i will say, however, that at leta's age, travel is far easier...owen would routinely snooze through 5-hour car trips with nary a peep (or poop). feed her a ton before you get on the plane, and hope the dull roar of the engines put her right out.
then break out the bourbon.
55. shubka said:
Travelling with a nursing baby is great, the 24-hour diner is always open. Most importantly, set your expectations - this is not going to be the same as travel in your childless days. You might not see all the places you would have without a kid, and the trip will have a whole different rhythm, but all three of you will have a great time. If you plan for nap breaks and early nights, you won't feel like you're missing out. Also, PLEASE don't give your 5 month old a lollipop, just bring a bottle filled with water (not juice), and give to her if she doesn't want to nurse. The novelty alone should keep her occupied and even a few drops will help her ears. Safe travels to you!
56. ajd said:
I once flew from Toulouse to Detroit with two screaming and unhappy children (not mine) sitting right next to me. How I wished I had brought ear plugs. So, first, don`t waste a precious second worrying about the other people on the flight. It is a free country and babies have a right to scream all they want. Second, bring complimentary ear plugs. That should wipe the dirty looks right off all their faces. And try to have some fun!
57. emily said:
Frankly, I'm of the opinion that it's just plain rude to fly with a screaming baby. The baby is miserable, you're miserable, and the other hundred people on the plane are miserable. Why should the rest of the plane have to suffer just because you chose to subject yourself to a baby? But on the other hand, you may convince several young folk on the plane that they really don't need to procreate like they thought they might want to. And flying out of the baby capitol of the world, that can be counted as your good deed of the day.
58. AKMA said:
Yes on nursing at take-off & landing, hesitant about drugs, yes on bring a little along as you can bear to.
Best wishes!
59. Mark said:
UPS all of your non-essentials (stuff like: teddy bears, blankies, cribs, car-seats, bottles, sofas, rocking chairs, the dog, clothes, refrigerators, trees, roofing shingles, etc.) first. You don't want to be holding up the security checkpoint explaining the use of a breast pump to the guard while Leta is going bonkers.
Benadryl cocktails are great. They got us through many a roadtrip. There's nothing better than a happy baby gorked-out on OTC meds.
Good luck.
60. Jen said:
Try, as hard as you can, to remember that one and a half hours, compared to the amount of hours in your life, is nothing. The absolute worst thing that can happen is that Leta will scream the whole time, and some people will quietly hate you. In case this happens, bring a voodoo doll to curse them with children within a week of their flight with you.
There is nothing illegal about using Benadryl or Tylenol (ignore the hippies), just test it out first. Remember that there will be other parents and understanding people on the plane who will symphthize. Also, I've been on planes with screaming babies, but never has there been a baby that screamed continuously. Best of luck, and I'm sure you'll do fine.
61. Beth said:
Great comments, except for the one about how giving your kids benadryl is abuse. I think alarmist and exaggerated claims of abuse simply serve to discredit real abuse that does go on. If you give your child a loving home and a drop of benadryl before a plane flight, you are not an abusive parent. I don't have a child, but that claim just left me flabbergasted.
62. Kim said:
We just flew for the first time (to Seattle) with our 5 mo old. I was TERRIFIED for NO REASON. She nursed and slept, slept and nursed (and she is NOT a napper...I'm thinking of buying an airplane). Our one strategy on the plane was to sit in the vicinity of the other pre-board baby people...that way if she was crying or screaming, it would fall on sympathetic ears.
I have a friend with a now 2 year old who always brings candy and passes it out to the passengers around them before the flight. Kissing ass seems to work for her!
You'll do GREAT. I got SO OFF on "introducing" our little girl to a new city...all the sights and sounds. She'll love the stimulation. And cooler weather (I'm in SLC). Have fun...can't wait to hear!
63. pixel said:
I didn't read through the entire five volumes of comments you have already received...but having flown way too many times with two small infants and no adult help, I can tell you this:
Make sure she is eating or has something in her mouth when that plane takes off and lands. That and dealing with poopy diapers are the only two things you need worry about.
Really. Make sure she has something in her mouth. An infant + plugged ears = travel hell.
Also - the little plastic drink cups provide neverending amusement to babies. They even provide evil napkins.
64. manda said:
I'm a new mommy of a 4 month old and I just flew from Orlando to Chicago BY MYSELF!!! (Hubby sat home with some much needed X Box time) I brought her car seat along in hopes that there were empty seats, but, alas, there were none. I have one of those "Travel systems" (baby talk for a whole lot of gear disguised as one) and I was able to take to the gate. Since there were no available seats, they checked it at the gate, which was nice, because it was waiting for me right when I got off the plane. I nursed during take off and landing (much to the dismay of the 2 gentlemen sitting next to me, but oh well, like they've never seen a boob before) My baby was great, the "white noise" of the plane lulled her to sleep for most of the trip. I put one of those airline pillows on my knees, and laid her on my lap with her head on the pillow, and she slept.
I second the pack light advice. There is nothing you need that you can't buy in San Fran.
Take a picture of her first plane ride.
Call the airline and ask if the plane has a changing table (some smaller planes do not have one) and plan accordingly.
Oh, and while going through the security checkpoint, you'll need to take her out of her carrier (if you brought it) and carry her through yourself. (Much easier with two people--by myself it was crazy. And my carrier got stuck going through the x-ray machine)
All in all, it was not as nearly as bad as I thought. Don't stress about it. Remember, your baby can smell fear...
Good luck!
65. Sarah said:
You're coming to San Francisco? Wanna have drinks? Have you read "Why Girls Are Weird"???
Everyone I've talked to says drug 'em. It won't hurt. Benedryl or Tylenol or a bit of that bourbon on the gums and nite nite Leta!
66. Sheri said:
We flew on a short flight (1 hour) with our 4 month old recently. She nursed on take off and landing and napped a little during the flight. It really wasn't all that hard. I think the best thing I brought was my boobs, not all the toys and blankets and crap. We boarded the plane early and it was no problem - Lily just sat and watched all the new faces pass by. And I don't know how comfortable I would be using a rental car company child seat. We just brought ours with us and they stowed it during the flight. We brought it to the gate with us and they had it ready when we landed, and much faster than I thought possible. The airlines know how to deal with all of that stuff.
As far as what to bring, I always pack too many clothes. But my theory is you never know when you are going to have poop-up-the-back or puke-down-the-front.
Don't let everyone scare you. It will either be easy, hard, or somewhere in between. Even if it sucks try and make the best of it! I hope you guys can enjoy your trip.
67. Shannon said:
If you are not comfortable with breastfeeding in the plane, her doctor may perscribe an eardrum numbing drop. They give it to kids when the have an ear infection.
I have learned that children are the worst when you interrupt their routine. Try to stay on the same routine, take naps at the same time, eat at the same time. Don't take her out of the daiy routine.
Good Luck and remember to just have a ton of fun!
68. Shannon said:
If you are not comfortable with breastfeeding in the plane, her doctor may perscribe an eardrum numbing drop. They give it to kids when the have an ear infection.
I have learned that children are the worst when you interrupt their routine. Try to stay on the same routine, take naps at the same time, eat at the same time. Don't take her out of the daiy routine.
Good Luck and remember to just have a ton of fun!
69. odysseus said:
Our son was a crabby infant but he handled long flights fine. Babies like adventures.
I second the comments about breast feeding and ears, packing light and your own mood. Do bring toys and books that she likes. Don't bother with "solids".
Our son liked walking up and down the aisles and standing in the galleys.
Schedule your days around her naps and routines (remember she'll be on Utah time). Napped & fed baby = happy baby. If she's an early riser, get out of the hotel for early breakfast.
Get a sitter if you can so you two can have a night out. If so, get a suite to sleep her in one room with the sitter in the next.
Have fun!
70. Leah said:
Drop her off at my house when you get here!
71. Karen said:
You've got some great advice here. I will disagree on only one thing I've seen. I've changed my daughter (now 22 months) in the airplane bathroom before and it's actually pretty well designed. Convenient even. So, don't worry about it. If you have to, you have to. I'm much more dubious about changing Betsy in the airport bathroom (which is sometimes disgusting) than I've ever been about the airplane bathroom.
Other advice since I've gotten this far... I always go on the plane with betsy, a moderately sized backpack that serves as both purse and diaper bag, a cheap umbrella stroller, and otherwise completely empty hands.
You can and should check everything you don't absolutely HAVE to have on you. The stroller rolls right up to the plane, and then you hand it to the attendant who will bring it right back to you when you land. You use the cheap umbrella because you never know what condition it's going to come back in and then you don't have to care.
Anyhow, you've got lots of good advice on what to bring as far as food/meds/etc go. Just - try to plan for free hands.
Good luck!
Karen
72. Tracy said:
I just want to say that, contrary to all these people who are shocked - SHOCKED! - at some of the things you say in regard to Leta, I think it's great that you haven't succumbed to the notion that you aren't allowed to have a sense of humor or irony or sarcasm now that you're a mom. Your honesty and wry humor in relating the frustration and mistakes and fears you encounter as new parents are, I think, so much more helpful and reassuring for other new (or potential) parents to read than some rose-tinted, Stepford-wife litany of bliss. Keep on rockin', Dooce and DJ Blurb, and good luck on that trip!
73. Abby said:
Our pack and play was great-it went all over w/us. They may have one at the hotel.I agree w/nursing during take off and landing, but if she's FAST asleep, and WON'T wake up, don't freak out (from personal experience!) By the time she was 14 mo my daughter had made 3 round trips to Europe, and we were all still (mostly) sane, and had never been chucked off of a plane. I actually found it harder later, when she wanted to walk. Have fun!
74. T said:
My son is 2 now, i agree with a previous post that you should travel now because once they can talk all bets are off. I have only 2 things to add.
1. Stop at the dollar store and pick up anything that might amuse her. A set of plastic measuring spoons and cups were the shiz-nit to my son at that age. The best part is since these things are only a dollar, you can use them during the flight and not worry about toting them around for the rest of the trip. Just hand them off to any parent waiting for their flight on your way out of the airport.
2. I am far from a new age type attachment parent, but when we went on trips, the family bed always worked great. There is just as much research saying it is the best thing for the child as there is to the contrary, so it's a personal decision, but the extra closeness always helped my son fall asleep far from home. One warning though, if you do need a couple shots of whiskey after the flight, do not try this option.
75. Tim said:
* Pack light.
* Bring one carry on with a few diapers and minimal other junk.
* Nurse on takeoff and landing. You will have a peaceful baby.
* Check your stoller planeside - then use it as a luggage cart when you get your checked bags.
* Buy diapers at your destination. Pack only as many as you'll need before you can get get to the store.
* Once you get to the rental car, everything will be fine.
76. Julia said:
Well, this seems superfluous considering all the other comments -- and I admit I haven't read them all, so I may be repeating stuff.
WE TRAVEL WITH OUR 7 MO. OLD on an airplane EVERY WEEK. Yep, you read it right. We commute between Austin and Madison, and that kid is a pro flyer/traveler now. So am I.
1. Get to the airport early -- going through security with a baby takes a few more minutes.
2. Definitely bring the carrier part of the car seat. Like someone said, you can usually ask at check-in that they block a seat, then you'll be able to put Leta in it. If not, they will check it at the gate.
DO NOT RELY ON THE RENTAL CAR baby seat. They're usually nasty, and you don't know whether it's been in an accident. Well, that's my little paranoia. Do what you like, of course.
2a. If you go to Burlington Coat Factory, you can buy, for $35, a hideous Kolcraft carseat carrier "frame" -- it turns the carrier into a stroller. They rock. You don't care when it gets checked at the gate if they mess it up (they won't, but ya know), and IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU DO NOT TRY TO CARRY THE CARRIER THROUGH THE AIRPORT. It also has a GIANT basket underneath that is totally key when walking around a city all day. Ours holds our diaper bag, two full grocery bags, etc. etc. -- but it folds down VERY easily and is very light (since it's just a frame). Also good cuz a lightweight stroller (umbrella) would not work with a baby as young as Leta (not sitting up well).
3. MOST AIRLINES DO NOT ALLOW PRE-BOARDING ANYMORE. But it's not that big a deal. Ask, though -- it is always nice.
4. It is not bad practice to give the baby Tylenol before the flight -- in fact you're supposed to. It doesn't drug them or make them tired, but it protects their ears a bit. Don't know if you bottle feed, but giving a bottle at take-off and landing protects their ears, too. That being said, my baby has never complained from ear pain, not once in over 20 flights.
Benadryl would be an excellent idea if Leta were 12 months -- before that is not good, from what I understand. When we get to that age we might do it (WILL BE GOING TO SYDNEY WHEN MAX IS 12 Mo. .... HELP ME GOD), but not without a practice run at home to make sure the effect on him.
5. Bring the Bjorn, for sure. You'll regret it if you don't.
6. As for "stuff", just bring baby tylenol, a thermometer, lotion, baby spf, a sun hat, and nail clippers. I've never "needed" anything else I couldn't get at a corner pharmacy.
7. For the airplane, be sure to bring more diapers than usual and TWO extra outfits in the diaper bag. That way if your luggage is lost, you aren't.
8. Good luck with the sleeping arrangements: the playyards they give you in hotels as "cribs" suck -- I personally can't drop my baby 4 feet down to the bottom. We always make a pallet on the floor with the big ass quilt we never use from the hotel bed, surrounded by rolled up towels/pillows/whatever.
I think it is great Leta only sleeps in her crib. Some people have babies who will only sleep in swings n shit. That sucks.
Well, that's all -- and remember, I do this professionally (would that I got paid for it). You'll find out you just don't need to stress. I know, you won't know that til afterward, but it's true.
Think of it in a good way: Leta will never be more portable than she is now.
77. Jenn said:
#1 Since medicating your children to save your sanity is a sin or abuse- If it is I'm guilty and so is my pediatrician who suggested it.
#2 You might wanna skip the pretzels and cherrios since she is only 5 months old- do these people who post read your blog at all?
#3 While a practice trip would be nice traveling around town in a car with a baby on your lap might not be such a good idea- hello child abuse
#4 Relax- If your stressed she might sense it, it'le fine *even* if she screams! You could always say excuse me I guess the poisnous benedryl didnt react with her stomach so well when I was trying to abuse her so she would be comfortable and sleep on the plane
Does anyone out there have a sense of humor?
78. Carolyn said:
Our experiences traveling with the kids while they were about Leta's age:
1) Do not rely on renting a car seat. Our experience has been that they are grody (dirty, old, nasty) and only ever Toddler-sized. We explained very clearly when reserving our rental car(s) w/ car seat that we needed an INFANT, rear facing 5 point harness seat. The reservation person said: "Uh huh, yeah, no problem". The people at the car rental place laughed in our face when we pointed out that the seat wasn't an "infant" seat. Plus, it is nice if you have one to strap into the window seat in the event of turbulence. (Or fear/guilt of chance of turbulence.)
2) Expect that your stroller, which you gate check as you enter the airplane, will be damaged. The airlines will do JACK CRAP about this. Even if you write a really good letter with before & after photographic evidence of the damage. Fuhgeddaboutit. They don't care. Remove anything attachable on the stroller (the cup holder, any attached toys, etc.) if you ever want to see them in one piece again.
3) If you have the good fortune to be traveling together with your partner in addition to the bambino..send one parent ahead at "pre-board" time to load all the baby gear you aren't checking and to get situated in your seats (i.e. install the car seat, stow the baby gear) ..while YOU stay holding the baby, off the plane until the last possible moment before take off. The waiting area/terminal is WAY more entertaining to baby (and you can move around) and the less time you're stuck sitting still, the better.
4) Most passengers will be FAR nicer to you than the flight attendants. (With a few magical exceptions.. most flight attendants are pre-disposed to thinking you're going to be a pain in their butt--asking for extra this and that --generally expecting parents w/ small children to be "high maintenance".)
5) Be sure to get the policy on car seats in the airplane printed out and maybe stuff 'em in the diaper bag/your purse.. Seems like the flight attendants don't nec. know all the exact policies--and may disagree with each other about what is permitted/not permitted. We thought two flight attendants were going to come to blows right in front of us when one freaked over our having a car seat with us on the plane, and the other said it was OK, as long as it was in the window seat. Then a third, more senior attendant happened along and said it could be in ANY seat as long as it wasn't blocking an exit row. She shut the other two up, and the flight went on..but we were persona non grata for the rest of the flight and were intentionally "skipped" when beverages were passed out later by flight attendent #1 (who didn't think we were allowed to have our infant car seat with us).
6) Bring your own baby bedding. The Hotel Pack-n-Play or crib will prob. be OK (if Leta will even go for that..) but most hotels don't have baby bedding for their cribs and just fold up a regular bed sheet. Bringing a familiar smelling set of blankies and crib sheets from home will be a big help and worth the minimal space in your luggage.
79. Erik said:
Best wishes for your trip - I'm sure Leta will be great. We have some nice weather coming in SF, so enjoy your stay. And take photos!
80. Cassie said:
Having just endured a flight from Des Moines to Denver (about 2 hours) with my 6 month old...yes, nurse on take off & landing. the other thing that Zoey did a lot of on the flight was eat biter biscuts. they are those rock hard teething cookie things. She gummed those things most of the flight. good luck!
81. Laurel825 said:
I traveled via plane with my son at 5 months. I'd go back and do it at that age rather than now, almost 16. (They scream at this age, too...only looking down at you from their beanpole height.) The motion of the plane might soothe her. If not, you won't go the Hell for slipping her a tiny schniky of Benadryl. You might go to Hell for the paper towels, though. (^-^) PS Procure a playpen or port-a-crib once in SF. Great journal and pics, btw.
82. Andreah said:
"...how the hell do you travel with a baby?.."
Very carefully. All 3 of you will be fine.
P.S. If I turn out to be half as good of mother as you are, I will be the luckiest girl in the land...oh, and so will our baby.
83. sheri said:
Watch out if you bring breast milk on the plane. In Michael Moore's new movie, he interviews a woman who was made to chug it to prove that it wasn't poison, or a bomb, or a knife. Beware and have a great vacation.
84. e said:
When we travelled to San Fran with an 8 week old we were insanely cocky about the whole damn thing. I had my breasts and some dipes and figured that would be all she'd need. Until of course she reacted very neagtively to all of the GARLIC in my BREAST MILK from having eaten at the Stinking Rose. Then she screamed hysterically whenever she tried to nurse, waking up everyone in the Hilton which left me crying in the bathroom trying to express breastmilk and worried that M was going to starve herself and or get us kicked out onto the street. So we hopped in the rental car and drove around all night until she finally slept. Then we went back to the hotel and broke into the minibar which resulted in the single most expense hangover I've ever had. Good luck ;-)
85. Cloudy said:
I love reading you & will love reading about this new travel adventure. Good luck.
86. dawnkeyotie said:
uh. in opposition to one of your posters who said it was rude to bring a baby on a plane (yeah, hi. mothers are not allowed to travel. certainly not WITH their kids!)
if she screams on the plane, screw it. how many times have you had to sit through a flight with a screaming baby on board? that's travel. the truly screaming-baby averse folks can take a bus. ha!
i don't have kids therefore i have no advice whatsoever. when i fly, i don't even think about the screaming babies, i think about how i don't want to die.
she'll prolly surprise you, though. kids do that.
87. pyjammy said:
i don't know anything about travelling with babies except that you're very brave. but i do know that i love that miss leta likes the morrissey song! what great taste that kid has!
88. megchem said:
Whatever you do DON'T BRING THE CAR SEAT ON THE PLANE!!! Send it through luggage...it's obnoxious and no fun to lock your kid in it, and it won't save her life if you crash. If you crash...you die...carseat or not. I've flown from la to ri many many many times with my son (he's 7 now) trust me on this one. Oh and pack an extra outfit in case of blow outs.
89. Jo said:
Don't forget to bring along your sense of humor. Other than that, not much else is important. Except diapers. I suppose you'll need those too. Have fun and good for you. I hear that traveling with a baby changes parents for the better. We're off to CO in a few weeks ourselves. The sense of humor is already packed.
90. Corrine said:
Hi. I've traveled with my daughter 3 times so far: 1 mo. old, 13 mos. old, and 2 yrs. old. The first and last trips were traveled with just the two of us since I'm a single mom, and it's worked out fine. I do have to admit, my daughter's not a crier so my advice may be exempt. But-here's what's helped.
1) Travel at bed time in hopes that she'll sleep-I bought a ticket and used her carseat since my daughter has NEVER fallen asleep in my arms.
2) Bring treats. This may go against your better judegement, but an eating/drinking baby is a quiet baby. The nursing is excellent for ear popping.
3) Be goofy and tickly and see if you can make her laugh. Public humiliation may be the only way out.
4) Be super nice and let people see how adorable your baby is so when she starts crying they'll think, "oh that adorable little angel is crying, poor thing;" instead of, "shut that brat up!"
5) Also, don't do carry-on. Take you, your baby, a backpack of necessities and that's it. You won't have time to read, look out the window, or do anything that you used to enjoy on the plane unless you use your bourbon trick.
Sorry to ramble on, I just love talking babies.Good luck!!
91. catherine said:
Bring lots of earplugs to hand out to the other passengers should Leta be true to form, it'll be easier to say GFY to an angry fellow passenger when you hand them earplugs. Really though, annoyances in life are everywhere and uncomfortable, unhappy babies on airplanes are no exception, people should lighten up. If Leta screams the entire way think of it as enlightenment practice for the rest of the plane, you're doing everyone a favor!
92. Another Pam said:
Nurse on take off and landing.
they will stick you near the back of the plane, so if you're lucky the roar of the engines might keep her asleep.
I also suggest a snugli or foldy stoller. Leta will get mighty heavy racing from one end of the airport to the other.
93. Mari said:
Keep in mind that you will be flying out of SLC. At least 25% of the passengers will be families with children under age 5. So although Leta may scream the entire flight, at least you will be in good company. There's strength in numbers. Good luck and have fun!
p.s. - I didn't escape SLC until I was in my mid-twenties so I enjoy reading your blog.
94. Vix said:
A friend sent me a link to your journal after reading yet another of my teary LJ/blog journals in which I denounced ever wanting to be a mother and praying to the Lord above for one - yes, just ONE! - full night of sleep. I've gone 10 bliss-full months with my wonderful always-sleeping, always-eating, always-smiling son - only to find now that he's been replaced by some extra-teresterial nightmare that WON'T STOP CRYING.
You make me feel sane. Can we be best friends?! :P
*links journal*
V xx
95. Spike said:
Those animal carriers seem to work well. How much checked luggage are you allowed?
Good luck.
96. Carny Asada said:
Erika (No. 51) and Julia (No. 76) have a lot of good suggestions.
I'll just repeat briefly:
Gate-check stroller and car seat (if they don't have a separate seat available for Leta).
Bring extra clothes for you *and* her on the plane. We flew with our daughter something like eight times before she was 2, and she had a diaper blow-out on EVERY flight. Only about half the planes we used had changing tables in the restrooms, but the others let us diaper her on the floor in the galley area.(yum!)
At Leta's age, you don't need a lot of toys and junk in the plane. Either she'll sleep or she'll scream. Cheap plastic measuring cups *are* a great travel toy, though -- you can use them in the bathtub OR the sandbox.
If you're lucky, you're staying with friends who live in Noe Valley, and every child-related thing you need will be about a half a block away from you (including a really cool second-hand store for anything essential you forgot to bring). If you're at a hotel, ask at the desk where the nearest playground is. There's a pretty cool one across the street from Grace Cathedral in downtown SF; there's another one in Chinatown, but I think it's got more stuff for older kids than babies.
Here's my worst baby travel story ever: She's about 2-1/2, she's toddling up the aisle of the plane ahead of me, and the tape on one side of her diaper comes undone and a GIANT POOP BALL rolls down the leg of her pants and out onto the floor. Fortunately, I had the napkin from my drink in my hand. I scooped that sucker up without changing the expression on my face and no one even noticed!
97. seannarae said:
its a scenario thats been played out for us time & time again. perhaps you've been on the business-end of it, or simply chuckled along with Bill Cosby's stand-up bit of the same. but it seems that without fail, there is an extremely disgruntled infant on almost every air flight i've ever taken. be it the friday afternoon departure, or the sunday afternoon hung-over return-trip. some poor parent or pair thereof dealing with an infant wailing & screaming & bitching. this was the genre i subscribed to the scene prior to fatherhood. fatherhood changes everything. unfortuneately, no one can be TOLD what fatherhood is; they have to be SHOWN. and as such, having our lil dood come with us on everything anna & i do is not unlike experiencing everything for the first time, all over again.
as with most pre-parents, a screaming baby is simply an audible nuisance. a thing most likely caused by, and thus to be dealt with & stopped by the parent. not once did i don the hat of compassion & think about just what it was causing the kids discomfort. and now square on the other side of the fence, i have such a massive wealth of overpouring respect for the parents i scorned prior to Jude.
babies beget baggage. think of what you alone take onto a flight, not including the bags you lug to the ticketing agent where you (hopefully) check them. so you got your carry-on, great. now, add to that the stroller, the diaper bag, and the general baby-gear bag. oh yea, and the lil dood himself. you've just negotiated the gauntlet of getting in & out of the car that got you to the curb. you've dealt with the queue at the ticketing counter. now you're progressing en masse thru the metal detectors with gear & baby, all the while racking up points for patience in an arizona airport in august. Jude was a 'beeping baby' so the 2 of us are directed to the second-stage station where both our asses are wanded up & down. then like effluent from a drain, we 3 re-group & re-dress & re-pack out entourage & progress the rest of the 3/4 mile to the gate.
but ooooh, here's where things get better for a spell. we're now in the elusive PRE-BOARD group, temproarily spared from the filth & bile & competitive peasants on the open-seating groups A, B, & C. but this blithe ends soon thereafter as we're hearded down the gangplank where we've got to split duties, and fast. i take Jude + diaper bag + single carry-on into the airbus & quickly locate a clutch of 3 seats together. meanwhile, anna collapses the stroller & deals with the ever-effervescent SouthWest flightcrew in their attempts to hand-check the stroller for the duration of the flight. she then re-joins the herd round about, oh, i'd say the 3rd boarding group to file in-turn onto the plane & find Jude & I fiercely guarding our 3 seats from the godless heathons of a full-flight. of course, we cannot be allowed to hold this 3rd seat for the lil dood, so he'll spend the entire jaunt on my lap.
NOW....
here is where physics & presure & eustachian tubes come into play. as they pressurise that tube, the wee little eardrums of our hero get pummeled. each atmospheric incline the bus reaches, the level of pressurisation jumps accordingly. this is why we adults have to equalise our own eardrums multiple times per ascent & descent. but Jude cannot do this. he can barely even coo on cue let alone plug a nose. herein lies what must be the root cause of most if not all grumpy babies on an airflight. their wee ears are getting the works, and they're just reacting to this. and those with even simple nasal gunk may be dealing with the dreaded sinus squeeze. so the long & short here is that any parent of any stage of development will have by now surely offered the best advice to combat this: have the lil dood eating/drinking during take-off & landing. We all know swallowing has a direct effect on our eustachian tubes.
Keep in-mind that the entire ordeal only outlined above is greuling enough, as is, under the best of conditions. those conditions being the low-grade hangovers of Mr & Mrs Parent. But thats another story for another time. But the whole thing would be made worse by lugging around a fussy baby. our first experience with flying the lil dood was just the opposite. like almost everything else with the kid, he just observes things. no peaks. no valleys.
once again, we go into an experience that is wrought with cliches & hazards for the parent of an infant. high on the list of gruesome would surely be for hungover parents to fly with an 8-week old. but we instead dealt with smiles, a hearty appetite, and an overwelming sense of curiosity as Jude was Bjorned thru the dozens of hoops that represent air-travel in the heat of arizona august.
98. Sheryl said:
I feel for you. Tomorrow I take my three kids, ages 6,3,and 1 on a flight to AZ by myself, and I make the trip with much trepidation. (What was I thinking?)
If you're going to bring a Pack and Play start letting her sleep in it. For survival on the plane bring ladybug book, Morrisey CD, money for drinks. Have a drink before you take off, and ditto on the breastfeeding and ditto on what Jae said about boarding last. Give the benadryl a test run(medicating babies when they are not sick is not abuse).
96 comments on how to travel with a 5 month old? If she only knew.
99. christine said:
Do they sell earplugs by the gross? That should keep everyone on the plane smiling. ;)
100. Laurel said:
I also travelled to San Francisco with my daughter when she was about the same age. Here's my advice, for all it is worth: 1. Bring a cooler (w/icepacks) with bottled breastmilk/formula, ready to drink. 2. The flight attendants can refrigerate things if you need it. 3. Fly Jet Blue and let your daughter watch TV. 4. United and Jet Blue have good changing tables in the bathrooms. 5. Look for a place in SF that rents baby things. On a trip to FLA we rented everything - bouncy seat, crib, toys. 6. Buy a new toy for the flight. 7. Remember you can call your doctor for advice if needed. 8. Bring infant tylenol for teething. 9. Bring spare set of clothing for baby on plane. 10. Don't worry about other passengers. Hard to hear baby over white noise. My baby fell asleep for entire flight thanks to the motion and white noise. Have a great time!
101. trace said:
uhh yeah, they do make baby benadryl and it does put the little nuggets right into sleepytimeland. that and paper towels.
i suggest: prepare yourself, at least mentally, for the worst. that way when things turn out to be not so bad, you'll be relieved. nurse on demand, as often as necessary. try wearing her (baby bjorn stylee); tends to make em' doze. accept that it will not be a fabulously carefree vacation, ala your baby-free days, but will have its own joys.
relax. breathe deeply. bring along something to read by ayun halliday for reinforcement. good luck! xo
102. psquared said:
Have fun..remember..if Leta screams on the airplane, take solice in the fact you've PAID for her right to SCREAM the entire way.
Short of that, feed her on takeoff and landing if possible, take lots of pictures to document her first flight and have fun.
good luck.
103. Jen said:
Unfortunately I don't have any baby-travel suggestions (but it looks like others have it covered), but I just wanted to say that I love your sarcasm as a comeback to all those who email you nasty insults at your motherhood. #1, it's not their right to do so, and also, who doesn't realize you're being sarcastic?
I appreciated that. :)
104. Sprite said:
In keeping with the "good" parent theme, leave Leta at home and let Chuck babysit. Then you can party it up in San Francisco without having to worry about anything!
105. Short North Mama said:
I always buy a big box of earplugs and offer them to everyone sitting around me on the plane. Most people don't accept them, but they appreciate the offer. It usually wins us a bunch of friends in the area right around our seats. Good Luck!
106. Marged said:
Babies are basic creatures, of course. When she's tired, she'll sleep (or scream). When she's hungry she'll eat (or scream). What's there to worry about?
I'm JUST KIDDING. Have as much fun as you can, and if she screams, think of how great her lungs will be when she's older. Maybe she'll be a singer, who knows? And finally, never, ever forget the oxygen masks in the ceiling. They're there for a reason.
107. Gretchen said:
The BEST advice I can give you besides drinking shots of tequila is to request the bulkhead seats. There is more leg room and you don't have to look at anyone if Leta decides to be true to form!
You have a great sense of humor!
108. Bob in SF said:
Heather:
Thanks for the opportunity to tell you directly how much I enjoy your site.
My advice (from experiences with my niece:)
Anyone who is nasty to you about any crying (if Leta even cries - my sister's experience was that it was easier when my niece was under a year old) can and should be told that if they don't want any screaming babies on their flight that they should by a first class ticket next time. You have as much right to travel as they do. Plus if that does happen we might get a funny entry out of it...
2) I second (or third...) keeping your hands as free as possible on the plane. Check whatever you can, but have the essentials with you.
3) My sister's experience is that car rental companies charge too much (on a long trip) to justify renting a car seat. Plus, Leta's will be familiar to her.
4) I also second keeping Leta on schedule. THe worst bout of screaming my niece did while visiting was on a day when naps and feedings were off kilter. She was not happy and everyone in that ice cream parlor knew it.
If only I'd had scotch tape or a paper towel.
109. veg4me said:
Sit in the back of the plane.
It's noisier back there and everyone on the plane knows those are the crappiest seats. People are less prone to get annoyed when they realize you are sitting as near to the outside of the plane as possible.
Leta's screams will be muffled by the engines and you are in close proximity to the bathroom for messy diapers,close to the flight attendants for napkins, water, alcoho and whatnot.
Best of luck to you. I've done numerous flights with my kids-the planning is more stressful than the actuality of it all.
If all else fails, it will make for good blogging.
110. Kieran said:
For some reason I was always eerily quite as a child...my mom would take me to her politcal meetings and I would never make a sound..hmmmmmm
111. robyn said:
Lots of advice already given, so I will give a few FYI's..and what I do's
1) Strollers can be taken right up to the door of the airplane and do not count towards luggage limits.
2) The bulk head seats are usually saved for broken people and babies...get there early if you want to secure one.
3) Infant dimatap drops will keep ears open and will not cause hyperactivity
4) Bring your laptop on the plane (hopefully it plays dvd's) and bring Leta's favorite show
5) Most airlines allow baggage for the child even when a seat has not been purchased.
Good Luck. The worst thing that can happen is that she screams the whole time, and really, you should be used to that by now.
112. ar said:
Speaking for all of us who don't have children, burn the tickets. I have a friend who had a baby over a year and a half ago and they're yet to fly anywhere. He said they're not going to travel until their child is old enough to do it without making it a living hell. If only more people had this attitude.
113. irene said:
Here's my advice being that I have no children (YET - 1st baby due in 11 weeks) and that I've traveled A LOT:
Sit in the back (unless you're tall then it's uncomfortable).
People will be rude, but why should you care? You purchased a ticket too and people should know that it's summer/vacation time and that people travel with babies.
Practice your dirty look so you can give it to people who give you the evil eye.
Babies cry and they make messy diapers. God people - get over it. Just because you've got a little one doesn't mean that you should never leave your house!
114. Meg said:
Ok, so this isn't a comment for Dooce, but for Jenn, a commenter somewhere up there.
Skip the cheerios and pretzles because she's only 5 months?! My son was eating WHOLE slices of PIZZA at that age! I think that the wonderful and talented Miss Leta can handle a couple of pretzles. ;o)
115. Mickey said:
On my first flight at the tender age of 6 months, I threw up Gerber green beans all over my dad's shirt. I'm 32 now, and he still won't let me forget it.
116. Lori said:
If Leta watches TV, definitely the DVD thing. My insanely energetic nephew can be calmed with the DVD. It's only an hour and a half and really, the vast majority of the world understands a screaming child. Having travelled a LOT, the only thing that really freaks me out is when there are 10+ infants on board. very. scary.
117. jelwood said:
As a non-parent this goes out to all the other non-parents:
1. Get yourself some good noise-canceling headphones.
2. Get an MP3 player with some relaxing tunes (Nomad Zen with Boards of Canada's Music Has The Right To Children is a solid winner).
3. Bring something to do (James Traub's Devil's Playground to read and a GBA SP with Mario and Luigi's Superstar Saga loaded is a good start).
No need to suffer with the parents!
118. Shelley said:
#1 Relax.
#2 Remind Leta that you'll tell embarassing stories about her and this trip at some point in the future, so she better co-operate!
#3 Realize before you start that there's going to be at least one thing that you forgot, should have tried, or didn't do. And forgive yourself for it in advance - you'll know better next time!
#4 Have a great trip!
119. Håkan said:
There seem to be some really shitty advice above from people that has rarely travelled, with or without a baby. We have a baby born on the same days as yours and believe me, there is no problem bringing a baby with you. Stop thinking you have to stop living just because you got a baby. We actually forced ourselves to wait for a while with travel so there was no risk for broken eardrums etc. Flew from Stockholm-NYC in week 10 -- No problems whatsoever. That's a 8-9 hour flight for those of you who haven't left home lately, don't have a passport, and think there is nothing outside US. Also did Stockholm-Frankfurt-Mexico with the longest flight being 12 hours. No problems at all. Our little one slept 80 percent of the way. They really seem to like the noise, it works like a sleeping pill.
-Buy a "Pack-n'-Play portable bed. It's the size of a bag and contains a very sturdy foldable bed with a changing table. Takes 2 minutes to unpack and then you have a perfectly comforable baby bed. You can get the baby used to the bed by having him/her take naps in it at home if you want to.
-A portable stroller with a clip on baby seat is crucial on a trip. That means you can bring a great stroller, like the Graco Metro Lite with its compatible baby car seat. The stroller and the baby seat gets checked as special luggage (and no, you don't have to pay extra for it. ) When you arrive you simply pick up your rental car/friends car, clip in your baby seat and you're done. I would not recommend you renting a seat from Avis etc. Who knows what a seat like that has been through.
-The BabyBjörn is excellent on a trip. When you get to the airport, put the baby in the Björn and check your carriage. You have your hands free, will have less problems with security, and keep the baby calmer
-When you book your ticket you ask for a "baby seat". Not for the baby, for yourself. There are special seats in the plane, near the bulkhead, where they can mount a baby bed. Not a baby seat, an actual bed.It's mounted into the wall right in front of your legs, On longer flights the baby can sleep/hang out there while you relax. The seats have extra room and the cabin crew will treat you like a star anytime you bring a baby. If these seats are busy I recommend a seat in the very back. NO, not becasue it's noisy. Because you have extra room to walk around in the back which tend to keep babies a bit happier.
-VERY CRUCIAL. Make sure you feed the baby during takeoff and landing! You can even do this while the baby is fastened in the seat belt. A tiny baby does not know how to get rid of the pressure in the ears but when they breastfeed/bottlefeed it's done automatically. If you are unlucky or don't do this you can cause some serious ear problems. And then you will find out what sleepless nights mean......
I'm a beginner when it comes to parenting but when you go around the world you pick up a thing or two. Go on your holiday, enjoy it, bring your baby and be proud you did so. You will have a nice time and be very glad you brought your little angel.
Drop me a note if you want some more travel advice.
Håkan
120. Sara said:
Definitely have water or milk with you, easily accessible, on the plane. The swallowing will help Leta's ears pop (yes, pop) and she won't cry if her ears are popping.
Likewise, Mom & Dad, take gum (or milk or water) to help your ears pop.
121. gisarah said:
I don't have much to add, but have traveled with my son at 3, 6, and 9 months with few horror stories, once to Madrid. My advice? Earplugs. Not for the screaming. For the advice and snide comments from other passengers/flight attendants. I've heard of people handing out earplugs to passengers around them, or other silly things like that.
My favorite stupid advice: "he should wear shoes when he crawls around, the floor is REALLY DIRTY" (what about his hands? those are fine then? do you have any airline-issued rubber suits to protect him from GERMS?)
My favorite breast-feeding moment: while waiting for the plane to open and let everyone out, my husband caught the teenager standing in the aisle oogling my breasts as Everett ate.
Other advice: check-in early, so you can make sure to get seats together. The only time I really wanted to cry was when my husband and I got seated several rows apart, in middle seats, and no one wanted to switch with us. (that's when you WANT your baby to start screaming)
122. brooke said:
1. Befriend all airline personnel.
2. Beg them to let one of you board first to get your area set up before the other boards with Leta.
3. Whichever one of you has Leta should board at the last possible second.
4. Feed Leta during take off and landing.
5. Take a Neat Sheet (plastic sheet you can fold into diaper bag) with you, so that if you have to change Leta, you can put her on the floor without catching Lord Knows What Grows on the Floors of Airplane Bathrooms.
6. Make sure you do 2 shots before attempting steps 1-3.
7. Relax, and remember no matter how many hateful stares you may get, you'll never see these people again.
123. Amy said:
The only things I haven't seen so far are to (a) bring an extra *adult* shirt in the diaper bag on the plane, and (b) make sure, if you're going to try to take the car seat on the plance in case of a free seat, that the car seat still has the little FAA sticker on it. Our came off and it took several flight attendants to decide that it was OK for us to use it on the plane, even though it looked exactly like the seat that was 2 rows behind us.
As far as the rest of the trip, flexible plans are the key. I try not to schedule more than one 'gotta be there at x time' activity per day, unless they're closely related--it's just tempting fate.
Oh--and I always travel with a 3 or 4 clean gallon ziploc bags. They come in handy for half a dozen things, and it's easier on my little brain to pack them than trying to anticipate what those things might be.
124. Gretchen C. said:
Keep a boob in her mouth the entire time you are up in the air. I'm not kidding. It will help her ears to pop, plus it's difficult to scream with a boobie in your mouth. I flew cross-country with my oldest when she was 6 weeks old, and in this manner managed to make the trip with a minimum of misery for myself and my fellow travelers, except guess what? She didn't poop for an entire week before the trip, and then in the space of the six-hour flight, pooped FIVE TIMES. I hope Leta spares you that.
125. April said:
1. Teach Leta the "we're going on vacation!" dance.
2. Decide on something really fabulous you are going to do in SF so you can day dream about it if the plane trip gets bad.
3. Improvise. You've learned a lot about Leta in 5 months. It'll work out.
126. Samantha said:
It has never failed me to calm screaming babies with their own reflections. Whether it's your compact or the airplane bathroom mirror, little faces are mesmerizing.
127. Iraida said:
Morissey rocks. I sing songs from The Cure to my kid. Anywho, I don't go anywhere yet with mine so I wouldn't know. I'll learn it from you if you blog about it. LOL good luck
128. Katey said:
I don't really have any advice on traveling with a baby. I just thought I should comment because everyone else in the world did. Sheesh, Dooce! You're famous.
129. CK said:
Skrew everyone else on the plane- it's your vacation!
Call ahead and reserve a crib for Leta and remember BRIBERY works wonders ; )
130. Megan said:
Coming to SF, eh? Fab! Remember to bring a carseat for the taxi and earplugs for all of the other plane passengers....they do not, I repeat, do NOT think your baby is cute enough to listen to her scream during take-offs and landings. When you get here, go to the Ferry Building Farmer's Market on Sat/Sun mornings...Leta will be amazed by all the colors and smells of the organic wonderland. Eat at Taylor's Automatic Refresher and have a beer in the sun. Go up to Marin and eat lunch at Fish, a brand new place right on the waterfront in Sausalito. Leta will love the friendly dogs roaming around and you will heart the great selection of Napa wines and yummy beers. OOh! And then go have dinner in the Haight at Magnolia Pub and have a beer. Tell them that Jo or Dave sent you and ask to see photos of their new little girl, Lily. She was born a day after Leta was, but Lily is a hippy Haight district baby. A nice one, nonetheless. Have fun in SF!!
131. Steph said:
Ditto everything Kristine (post No. 1) wrote. And just one more thing. Be prepared - just be prepared - that all and any routines you have already established might be kind of rocked off the rails.
132. jessica~ said:
Ha ha ha! I'll add this dilema to my stack of reasons why not to reproduce. I'll live the experience through you... Revert to the old standby and make sure she has lots of paper towels to chew on.
Just kidding, don't let her nap until your on the plane and b-feed her as you take off & land. Hopefully she'll sleep most the time. Good luck.
133. ken said:
Yeah, I've also found that sucking on a breast usually keeps my ears from popping during takeoff and landing. (I'm so so sorry, but somebody had to drop that joke.)
134. Jenny said:
Since I'm #133 to get here, someone may have mentioned it before, but they make baby eardrops so there will be no screaming when the plane takes off and lands - they worked like a charm on my niece. Also, speaking from an experience my Mom apparently had with me, put those plastic underpants on over the nappy, disposable or not. Kids will always choose the most inconvenient time to get sick and have the runs.
On another subject, after looking at your posting I almost got the Nikon D70 this weekend, but since it was being purchased as a gift for me and I wasn't sure I needed that much camera I went with the coolpix 4200. But thanks for the camera info.
8-) Jenny
135. Christi said:
I have absolutely no answer to your question, but when you get back and have it all figured out would you please let me know, my baby monkey (uh, I mean baby girl) is due in 23 days!
136. carrie said:
I've travelled a few times now with my almost 8 month old little one, who HATES car seats, and we haven't had a problem (yet). In addition to the advice you've already gotten about nursing and hotel cribs, bring bedding that is familiar to Leta for wherever she sleeps. And we borrowed an inflatable bath tub and a very portable foldable booster seat (both fit into a duffel bag and were checked) for our last trip, and they were life-savers. I tend to freak out about everything and anticipate the worst, but it really was okay. (And on the last trip, my baby got sick and started teething and pulled an all-nighter in the hotel room.) And yes, routines get all weird, but for us, they always went back to normal within a few days.
137. Jill said:
I'm an extremely impatient person, with a six month old of my own, so I really have no idea what was said after the 3rd comment - however, to get you through the week in San Fran, check out babiesaway.com They do rental services for ANYTHING Miss Leta may decide she *needs* while away from the comforts (and confines) of home!! Good Luck - Carter and I have traveled lots, babies are resilient and he is as relaxed as I allow myself to be ;)
138. heyhon said:
You've got loads of great advice here so I won't add more. I will say that you should be doing this! If you can Jon like to travel, you want Leta to travel too. The sooner she gets used to it, the better. The first trip may be rough (and may not). Whichever it is, it will be an adventure! Good luck!
139. Kim said:
As the mother of a 4 year old boy and a 17 month old girl? I can say honestly - TRAVEL NOW. There are windows of opportunity... before they walk? and after age 21.
140. Sue said:
BOOZE--LOTS AND LOTS OF BOOZE (for you, Jon, AND LETA!)
141. Lorie said:
You'll be fine. I agree with all the rest, travel light, breastfeed whenever you can, and stay calm. I think the breastfeeding part is really important, because that is here security. I have survived many trips with 4 kids, a plane ride to England with two toddlers and 4 months pregnant, I breastfed my daughter all the way up Pike's Peak and all the way down...I like what someone said, just go with the flow. It's taken me many years to learn that. Life doesn't stop when you have more children. It just gets a little more harried, but you guys can do it. Breastfeed, breastfeed, breastfeed!! :D
142. yayaempress said:
Listen to Kristine (post #1). She sounds like she's done some travelling. Pack light & remember to keep up posted.
BTW, if people think you're being serious about hanging Leta from the roof by her toes, then they deserve the smartass comments you hand back!
Good luck!
143. yayaempress said:
Listen to Kristine (post #1). She sounds like she's done some travelling. Pack light & remember to keep up posted.
BTW, if people think you're being serious about hanging Leta from the roof by her toes, then they deserve the smartass comments you hand back!
Good luck!
144. Treya said:
Expect it to go terribly. Expect her to violently shit her diaper and it get all over you on the plane. Expect her to vomit, scream and annoy the hell outta the other passengers. Expect her to spew pea-green soup (even if you didn't feed it to her) all over the airplane seats. THEN...when it doesn't go AS BAD as you thought, you'll be relieved. I'd say, Pray, Benedryl (fuck the paper towel nay sayers) and have yourself a shot or two of Benadryl....or make husband sit with her while you go to the back and chat it up with flight attendants. You'll do fine. I love your BLOG. LOVE IT DAMNIT!
145. Heather said:
OMG!! I can comment!! I have to agree with the earlier comment about baby tylenol. As a mother of an 11 year old I'll tell you that any kind of children's medicine, the night time formula, is a life saver!! There have been times when my hubby and I follow our child around looking for anything that resembles a cough so we can shove the stuff down his throat. Pack everything you think you'll need for her then double it. Babies have a way of needing the one single thing you don't have, and that doesn't end when they turn 11. Have fun. Can't wait to hear all about it.
146. Dangerspouse said:
You know, you did manage to house that thing for 9 months. Assuming the episiotomy hasn't healed over completely yet, any chance you'd consider a re-insertion for the duration of the trip? Snake in a discreet breathing/feeding tube, and away you go! Sure the kicks will be a little harder now, but that adipose container will also cut down the scream volume about as well as duct tape...and without tearing out her nascent upper lip hair later!
147. coog said:
Pedia-lite... that's my advice. baby's get dehydrated on planes, as do we and while she's sucking that down she's unplugging her ears. lucky for you it's nice and breezey here in san fran in august - she'll be raving about that nice cool month in san fran for weeks (that part might get obnoxious).
148. tex said:
On Benadryl overdoses and babies:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/
09/02/earlyshow/health/health_news/
main571181.shtml
149. The Former Inmate said:
You know airliner cabins are pressurized, right?
Remember how that feels not-so-great on your ears, even when you swallow a lot and chew gum and blow your nose?
OK. Now imagine Leta going through that.
I suspect you will be adding "Leta does not like inner ear pressure differentials" to that list....
150. Blair said:
Lady I wish you luck.
One thing to keep in mind when you fly with infants. You know that fuuny thing that hapens to your ears when you fly. We know that adult protical entitles us to chew gum. when our ears have poped then we are fine. Infants on the other hand dont know how to do this and you might encure large amounts of screaming. Tip hold off from giving them a bottle or feeding them till after about 10 min into the filght. The swallowing should help there ears.
Goood luck and have a crab sandwich for me.
151. Larisa said:
Check the car-seat as luggage, nightmare to try and bring on the plane. Hopefully she will nurse during take-off and landing since she is now off the binky. Bring anything portable from her crib that is easy to pack. Good luck-
152. Amy said:
Looks like everyone has the travel thing covered. Just wanted to say that your website keeps me sane. I have a 3 month old daughter and I've been reading your site since my last month of pregnancy. Nice to see someone going through the same things and having similar reactions. I don't feel so bad for wanting to have a few shots when she's screaming in my face ;P Keep up the great writing and the sense of humor!
153. Suzette said:
Remember these few words as you are getting on the plane...you will never see these people again.
154. Mikki said:
When I traveled with my daughter (at 10 mos.) to Florida from Missouri I met a pilot's wife who assured me that what always worked for her children was gas drops, such as Mylicon. Apparently if she has even a little gas it becomes extremely painful in air, which could be why some babies cry on planes.
Good luck!
155. April said:
OY! Make sure you ask the airline for the "first flight" pair of wings and certificate! Kind of cheesy, but who doesn't like little plastic wings? Act like your pinning it on Leta, then, of course steal it for yourself. Best of luck.
156. Fiona said:
Calpol!! We have that in the UK and I'm not sure if it comes under the same brand name there but it's basically a kind of drowsy cough/cold/headache medicine for children. I know a LOT of people who were practically reared on the stuff when they were infants & suffered no harm.. I'm not suggesting it for everyday use but maybe to get you through the journey.... ! :)
Good luck, I know babies are all different and everything but my nephew (and his mum, on her own!) made it back alive from Ireland to England when he was a week old - it IS do-able and I'm sure your other half has a special geek machine to soundproof the air around your seat anyway..
Well done for being such a good mum anyway, you seem to be doing brilliantly. I must advise against too much morrissey though as he really is a miserable bastard malcontent!!
157. Just Me said:
Seriously? Buy a 3rd airplane seat.
Google the statistics on babies injured during turbulence each year. Or, you could just rent "Fearless".
Is a couple hundred bucks worth the risk of Leta being seriously injured?
158. Lisa said:
Get her her own seat - after 30 flights (duration 2-6 hours each flight) with my daughter before she was 16 months - I can attest that your arms will want to fall off after about 35 minutes in the air... And bring cold medication - cause she'll probably catch one the second you look at the aircraft.
Have a blast!
159. donna said:
Not sure where a few commentors are from but here in Canada, babies cry. That's what they do. Odd isn't it?
I sat next to a an arabic woman on a long flight with an infant once. She rubbed her infants eyebrows for hours, lightly. She said it was to relieve the tension the baby feels over the eyes from the altitude.
Baby seemed quiet. Or drugged not sure which.
Have a fantastic time, dammit!
160. Angie said:
Whilst I know nothing about babies except for how they're made (I think), I'm reckon you might want to practice some off-the-cuff sounding remarks for the people transmitting their "please-god-don't-be-sitting-next-to-me-with-that-potentially-screaming-baby!" thoughts.
Bon Voyage!!
161. Corie said:
OMG..after all this advice, I cant imagine that you'll ask for it again! LOL You may feel like you dont know what you are doing, but you are Leta's mom and you know her best. I'm all for whipping out the boob on takeoff and landing. Really, you're going to be great and so is she.
162. jw said:
I think everything has been said so I want to emphasize what I think are important points given 26 years of parenting.
1. Pack light
2. Breast feed throughout
3. Forget everyone else. You'll never see them again.
4. RELAX. It's NOT going to be that bad!
163. Nicole said:
My best advice is to take the stroller all the way to the gate and have them gate check it! It's such a pain in the ass to be carrying a child to a different conquest! Have fun!
164. Sarah said:
My crazy Aunt decided this summer to bring her twin baby girls, both 13 months old at the time, from Germany to Canada. Even crazier still, she did this on her own. Despite having the desire to flip out on a couple occasions, she stated repeatedly that if it hadn't been for the incredibly kind flight attendants, she would not have been able to do it. I thought that perhaps this would be inspirational if nothing else. ;) Good luck and have fun!
165. Robin said:
We traveled from St. Louis to Detroit when Clara Jane was 3 months old. Travel light, obviously. Most big cities have businesses that will rent any and every variety of baby equipemnt, and they'll often deliver to the airport or your hotel. That's much easier than packing a stroller, carseat, bouncy, etc., and it's usually fairly inexpensive. Definitely cheaper than having to replace your stuff when the airline loses it.
166. Cindy said:
Rachel didn't go anywhere until she was 4 months old, but I assure you, she loved San Francisco! But then it's only an hour flight for us.
Advice? Sorry, but you're gonna have to take everything under the sun. Leta will have her own suitcase and you and your hubby will have to share a bag. That's just a given. You do need a carseat, but you don't need a stroller. Buy diapers when you get there.
We tried to make sure that Rachel drank something on the takeoff and landing, but I don't think she was fazed one bit.
Oh and Rachel has already been to Hawaii twice and she will turn 2 next month and we haven't bought a seat, yet. Ask for the backrow. There is usually an extra seat there.
BTW, I think a carseat provides baby with something familiar on the plane.
167. Katie said:
No real advice, I'm afraid, but have a good time! I'm looking forward to reading about it.
168. Way said:
We used Benadryl. He had ear infections and it totally knocked him out. He ended up sleeping from takeoff to landing.
169. MelissaS said:
I think the answer is obvious is it not? You must strap Leta to the wing with duct tape. It's perfectly safe.
Traveling light is always a good plan especially since, in a pinch, a toilet paper roll makes a pretty awesome toy for a 4 month old. Of course, if you leave the toilet paper on the roll you have the added bonus of endangering your baby's life.
And also, because I am a far worse parent than you (but with a less popular website to save me from the scorn of the general population), I would pack either: benadryl, orange triaminic or baby tylenol....
Please test the benadryl before you attempt this. We tried this method on a 5 hour drive and it had the opposite effect on our child. My God she was wired and our ears were bleeding by the time we arrived at our destination.
170. gaea said:
just remember to relax (as much as that sounds clich), leta is at the age where the new stuff that she'll see may just astound her into total silence! (yes..babies can be cute and adorable and SILENT).
try taking a "practice/prep flight" a few days before the trip. dont let her sleep too long the night before...but if she does..oh well. give her a warm bath, maybe some "calming lotion" (they make it with chamomille and lavender and it even works on me and I'M an almost 25 y.o problem sleeper!). then just take a short road trip. if she can pull through that..the rest is as easy as bourbon goin down.
bring a new and old toy. something to keep her occupied that DOES NOT MAKE NOISE! (even a teletubbie doll ::gasp::)
i flew for the first time when i was two weeks old..and seeing as im still here...my parents survived and didn't drown me for making a scene.
and last and maybe kinda important. leta is one of the most smooshiest, cutest,
angelic (looking) baby on the web...(people will often time excuse alot for a cranky baby if she is a cutie pie).
weither she freaks or falls asleep. this is a milestone. remember ever moment and use it for blackmail when she starts asking for money in a couple years..
171. Amy said:
I am to lazy to read all these comments, but after traveling with a 9 month old, I learned the value of an umbrella stroller. You can fold it up and it is very light. You can use it up to the door of the plane and they will check it for you and have it waiting when you get off the plane. Why is the umbrella stroller (or any stroller) a must? So the night after you have carried your child through the airport you can feel your pinky and ring finger. My arm was so worn out!!!! You can get them for around $12 at Wal-Mart or Target. Once we got to California, we found a Wal-mart and I used it for the trip back. I wish I had it at the beginning. And I still use it today since it does not take much space in the trunk of the car.
172. Leah said:
1. Don't be smug when you get to preboard the plane. "Nah-nah-nah-nah-nah" will get you nowhere.
2. Get your hands on some free drink coupons and hand them out to the people who have to sit around you. A guy with three kids did that for me once. How could I complain when he'd plied me with free liquor?
173. annette said:
My parents love to tell the story of when they took me to San Francisco when I was a few months old. They said I cried like a banshee when we rode on the trolley. My advice: avoid trolleys while in SF.
174. The Mighty Jimbo said:
suggestions?
other than don't take my flight?
as i am a self proclaimed expert at all things airport, i can offer you all kinds of suggestions. however, i have limited experience in taveling with babies. i'll try to apply what i know to the new parent.
stay home. not an option? basically, you're fucked.
bourbon. lots and lots of bourbon. not for you - for all the people who sit around you.
print your tickets out first, and don't try to go through the security check point with more than two items. one pissy agent and you end up checking leta.
i hear those vibrating seats work wonders. i'm just sayin it's what i heard.
ipods rule. turn that puppy up loud enough and you won't hear a peep from leta the whole flight.
never ever ever ever fly southwest. assigned seating rules.
dont wear any shoes with metal. no rings, shanks, buckles, etc. i can't stress this enough. don't try to get through security wearing a goddam pair of hiking boots. seriously pisses everyone off. and don't hide any firearms, bowie knives, or handcuffs in her car seat.
fly on a weekend, and leta will have lots of other screaming kids to keep her company.
most reasonable hotels do have cribs. they also have high speed internet, mini bars, tickets to STOMP, and access to call girls should you need that too.
finally, who gives a fuck. SLC to SFO is only an hour or so anyhow and i'm willing to bet she has screamed for more than an hour before. you will do great.
175. Allie said:
When my niece was 3mos old her grandmother (not my mom, the other one) became very ill and her parents left the little ball of sweetness with me to go handle the crisis. Long, long story short I ended up with her on a plane for three hours to go see her parents. I don't have any children and to say the least was not sure how she or I would survive the flight. This is how it was done. Bjorn, bottle for take off, recording of her crib mobile, black and white flash cards, diaper bag that fits under the seat (it's not easy to get in the overhead every time you need a wipe or blanket), and her blanket. i refilled her bottle with warm water in between feedings. i did have to change her in the bathroom. i was shameless and aked for help from an attendant. i checked the car seat and stroller. believe it or not, she slept, laughed, cooed at all the hot men and now it's a great story. if i, the single gal in the city (at the time), made it without a breakdown or needing iv sedation at the gate, i'm sure you'll do fine. have fun!
176. Nikki said:
I concur with the bottles to drink (to relieve pressure on her ears), and the motrin or tylenol (or whatever you normally use to relieve her pain) an hour before take-off, and something familiar from the crib.
And remember, no matter how much you pack, you're likely to forget something anyway.
I hope the sleeping situation goes well!
177. Margie said:
My darling daughter had her first-ever non-soothable screaming fit at the age of six weeks while my XH was on the phone making reservations for me to fly cross-country with her, solo. Like you, I'd been thinking it was going to be great, right up until that moment. But then I was skeered.
The trip went great, but she did somehow manage to pee on two outfits, one in the airport bathroom while I was changing her, then another while I was changing her in the airplane bathroom. I strongly recommend bringing triple the diapers you think you'll need for the travel time, and a few extra outfits, too.
Be warned that airport and hotel carpets are disgustingly filthy (if she's even crawling by then?) and while her hands will clean right up, her clothes will never be the same. And airplane carpets are even worse...I made the huge mistake of changing her on the floor by the galley on another flight. Eww, eww, eww.
If you ever see them somewhere, a rainbow playsilk is a great toy/blanket/coverup/teether for travel and it takes up virtually no space. My girl is now six and still plays with hers for one reason or another, although now it's more likely to be fashioned into a sarong than used for peekaboo.
Definitely breastfeed on take-off and landing if she's not in her carseat. If she is, they say the most dangerous parts of any flight (and the only parts the carseat would really make much difference for) are the immediate take-off and landing--so leave her in it for the minute or so, then as you're climbing to altitude, then breastfeed, and again on descent until you see the flight attendants actually starting to get into their seats.
I'm not big on drugging kids, for whatever reason, especially parental convenience (wouldn't it be great if we could just give teens good behavior drugs, too?) so I don't support the whole Benadryl/Tylenol thing. She's a baby, she'll be who she is and that's not a bad thing. Maybe just a little bourbon for you, though.
I think someone else already mentioned reserving the aisle and window seats. If someone does get seated in the middle, they'll be more than happy to switch with you.
Oh--and it might help to think about this before you reserve the seats--if you do get to put her in her carseat, which side would you rather she sit on? I am WAY more comfortable with her on my left side (I'm right handed) so I always ask to be on the left side of the acft--in the A/B/C seats. It's just less awkward if you have the sudden desire to pick her boogers or something.
Stay cool, it'll be fun. She'll love it, and I bet you'll hear every mom's favorite phrase on the way out of the plane: "I didn't even realize you had a baby with you!"
178. wixlet said:
no advice on the traveling, since my son is just now 7 weeks old and our 3-hour road trip to houston and back wasn't too eventful--he slept almost the entire way there and back. but i do have to say that our kid LOVES THE NEW MORRISSEY ALBUM, particularly 'i have forgiven jesus', just like leta. this irks the shit out of my husband, since he's not so big on the morrissey, but it delights me to no end.
179. Moxie said:
I have wanted to tell you that what awesome parents you and your hubby are! Being a parent is always a learning experience no matter how old or how many you have. Anyone who cant see the love shining thru your entries needs to get a sense of humor and possibly an enema.
On the flying....breast feed at takeoff and landing. Ask Dr. about Tylenol or Benydryl and to a test run if you feel comfortable. DRESS HER CUTE...the previous posts about a cutie-pie screaming are true. PR goes a long way, so get the uber-box of earplugs and a box of good chocolates to hand out as people will appreciate your attempts to recognize that you care about their comfort ( even if you dont). Oh and one last thought...you had mentioned that Leta likes a certain TV show in a previous post. Might want to invest in a portable DVD player and play that show. If she isnt interested now, she soon will be for future trips.
180. willo said:
I'm the bazillionth commenter - woohooo!!!
Well should you *somehow* not have any other friends here (doubtful) and you can *somehow* leave Leta with someone else - and I'm in town whatever weekend you're coming out here - then let's go to a show!! My music calendar is updated :) Have a wonderful trip no matter what! xoxo
181. Rita said:
Okay, this is totally not PC and not something you should let anybody see you do, but I'll throw it out there just in case. Back in the early Seventies when my brother was a baby, it was standard to tell mothers to drink a (1) beer before breastfeeding if their baby was fussy or colicky or whatever. They sleep really nicely and it helps the mom to relax, too. Just don't let anybody see you do it, because some people are hypersensitive about that sort of thing, but as long as the circumstances are exceptional (flying, super colic, etc.) and you don't make a habit of it, there won't be any damage done.
182. kyndgrrl said:
I'm not even going to try and finish reading the others but here's mine. Quickly. Yes to nursing.
Please don't borrow or rent a carseat. This advice has scared me beyond belief. It could have been in a wreck. Or if you get it with a car at a rental place you have NO IDEA what has been done to it. If you can at all, you need to bring your own carseat. It helps on the plane like many others have said. And a lot of times you can get an extra seat. If you can't bring your seat for some reason, you can get a decent seat for $40 dollars at ToysRUs and if you don't bring it home you can donate it.
Other than that, you'll do fine. You guys love her and she just wants to be with you, wherever that is at the moment!
183. AE said:
Try the baby tylenol or benadryl, it really does work wonders. And just a sidenote,Kate, if you think you can control the whinning of a 2 yr old, I wish you the best when you have children!
184. Rae said:
Oh. My. God. One hundred seventy-five comments! From people who LOVE you and your family. Well, make that 176.
185. Julia said:
Hi. It's me again, polluting this already ridiculously long list.
I forgot the hardest lesson I ever learned: BRING A SMALL BOTTLE OF WATER. I know you BF, but you never know. My horror story is too long, but let's say it involves a bitch stewardess.
Now, okay, are people crazy?
1. IT IS NOT OBNOXIOUS TO PUT A BABY IN A CARRIER SEAT FOR A FLIGHT. 5 month olds do not feel "trapped" -- they live on their backs and if you have a baby at home, they're in something similar all day long, or laying on the floor, anyway.
2. You are not going to overdose your kid unless you OVER dose your kid, duh. Any pediatrician will tell you that you ARE SUPPOSED to give a kid tylenol before a flight, and not to give Benadryl for a flight or an illness before about 12 months (before then you use a different antihistamine, and even that not until they're about 16 lbs).
3. Gimme a break about the dangers of turbulence. I've heard of about as many flights crashing as those that have had "dangerous" turbulence -- i.e., 1 in 50,000 (if that many). Holding her in your lap will be fine, if they run out of seats and you have to check the carrier (by the way, you don't technically have to have a base when you get to the rental car -- you can thread the seatbelts right over the seat itself. THE MANUAL SAYS SO, lest I read crap about abuse).
4. All these people are radically overstating the ear thing. Oh, and I guess I was about the # of flights we've taken; it's 14, the earliest one at 8 weeks. So, 14 flights over 5 months, and Max has never had ear trouble -- I know, not all babies are the same. But in general I think that they've improved the pressurization process. My own ears haven't hurt from a domestic flight in about 15 years.
5. Triple and quadruple FUCK anyone who said anything negative about you taking your baby on the plane. As a corollary, as many have said, don't worry if she screams: you hear it much more than anyone around you. Although sitting at the back of the plane is a help (louder).
5. Don't worry about changing tables. You won't be changing her on a 2 hour flight, for goodness' sake.
6. They may have baby beds on transatlantic flights, but no such luxury exists on domestic flights (at least not in coach).
Okay, sorry, had to vent a bit.
186. ames said:
On a 15 hour flight from LA to Melbourne, I put up with a screaming..and I mean SCREAMING..toddler who would start up for 45 minutes, then sleep for 15..every hour, like clockwork! I'd switched seat rows with his family so that his mother could put the middle armrest up, which meant I was now right in front of him. (The mother told me that she'd left his carseat with checked baggage because it was hard to carry and it was now obviously a huge mistake)
The thing is, despite my having almost no sleep, and a pounding headache upon arrival, I could not blame the child, or even the mother. It happens, everyone reacts in different ways, and you'll never be able to predict what's going to occur. Some of these suggestions sound pretty wise...so at least you have some new ideas!
If you pass this milestone with flying colours, why not give yourself even more fun next time and bring Chuck along too!?
187. Jennifer said:
Hmmm...is it too late to recant on the pacifier rehab? You know, it usually takes smokers several tries at quitting to kick the habit...
188. Amber said:
I have to get the "you rock" out of the way. That said, as someone who works with 18 month to 3 year olds in daycare and has been forced to make many trips with them (because no one not being paid for it would do it, and it's hard to convince someone who is being paid for it to do it), pray that she sleeps. And usually on trips, kids aren't too bad even if they don't sleep so long as you sit them by a window so they can watch all the things passing by. Now once we get them to whereever we may be going, they go crazy and make me wish I hadn't decided to work in daycare and oh my god why won't they stop... but lucky for you Leta doesn't walk yet, so you don't have to worry about her wandering off. And she'll probably do better than you think with the whole situation, so long as her routine stays relatively normal.
Hope all goes well!
189. Melissa said:
I don't have a baby and am unsure if I want one ever. Given that I really cannot give much relevant info.... However, I do see that your instincts have been good so far and you are a great mother. It's a short flight and babies cry. Trust your instincts and remember the one comment - 'you are never going to see these people again'. You can check your car seat, portable crib thing, etc. whatever you need to feel comfortable in SF. That is the most important thing - that you are comfortable and Leta is happy. If you obsessing the whole trip I am sure Leta will notice. So what if you bring to much stuff there are plenty of stores and Laundromats in SF. You will never really know how to fly with a baby till you try. My 2 cents.
190. Peter Hentges said:
Let me relate to you the most savvy piece of child-rearing advice ever perpetrated upon me. When I was teething, my father would pour a shot of whiskey, dip his finger in it, rub the finger over my gums and pour the rest of the shot into my bottle. After that (and, one presumes a shot or two for himself) there were no teething difficulties. How does this relate to traveling with a baby, you ask? Sedatives. Some for you, some for baby, some for everyone else on the plane. Dope 'em up and fly happy!
191. Drama Queen said:
If you get those little bags of pretzels, after you're done with them, let the baby play with it. Kept my kids busy for the longest time on their first flight when they were about 7 months old. My husband and I found ourselves anxiously awaiting those blasted foil bags of pretzels.
Also, buy or borrow some new toys (although, try to keep 'em small so they don't take up too much room) and don't let Leta see 'em until you're on the plane. Also bring along some old favorites too.
Nursing during take off and landing is a good tip. If, by some miracle, she does fall asleep on the plane (happened with my kids after they nursed), don't even think about trying to move her. We made that mistake and oh boy did we pay dearly. No matter how confident you are that you can slip her into the car seat or into another position, you can't. Give up that hope quickly. If you keep the baby still, though, you may get a nice long quiet nap, though.
192. Karry said:
BRING A CHANGE OF CLOTHES FOR YOURSELF. If you do nothing else, do that. I've been puked on by my kids so many times that I packed a spare t-shirt and bra under all the diapers in the diaper bag. She's not going to like the air pressure, so feeding at takeoff and landing will be good, however please consider bringing a pacifier "just in case" - you never know, might not want to flash a boob when people are boarding and leaving. Good Luck!
193. Kath said:
C'mon....this is Leta we're talking about. She'll charm the pants off anyone who sees her, even if she is crying.
She'll be fine and so will you and Jon.
Every time I've ever flown on a flight with a screaming baby, I've always told the parents on my way out that they are lucky to have such a beautiful child...it's the truth!
What I really want to know is who's watching Chuck?
Have a great time in SF!
194. lisawhip said:
I've traveled cross-country with my daughter several times a year (she's two now). Never had a problem, and she's a screamer too. When she was an infant, she rode on my lap; later she got her own seat. Again, never had a problem. All the advice above is good (with the obvious benadryl-as-child-abuse/don't-bring-your-spawn-on-my-flight exceptions). The only thing I can add is this: it is much better to have a diaper you don't need than it is to need a diaper you don't have.
195. Christine Kennedy said:
You will have moments (just like in Parenthood in general) where you think you will never make it back alive, but you will. You will all have a blast and will have a wonderful memory of your first family vacation.
What I can think of:
Be careful about hotel cribs...I watched Dateline or something and will NEVER use them. I don't know if a pack-n-play can be checked for a flight, but maybe that would be a better idea.
Make sure Leta gets some down time here and there. My first baby was a non-sleeper too. We just made sure she got a break to just do whatever she felt like from time to time instead of the go, go, go that our "before children" vacations were like.
Hope that helps. We are about to drive 2500 miles with a 3 year old and a 1 year old and I'm wondering if we will make it back in one piece!!!
196. callalillie said:
A friend once told me this story, and oddly enough, while on a plane from NM to NY this weekend, a father did the exact same thing:
The kid had been crying for an hour. Not just crying-- screaming. Not just screaming-- ear drum gorging, brain swelling, sinus splitting wails that I surprised didn't disengage the emergency exit doors due to air pressure fluxuation.
Calmly, the dad stood up, little 5 month-or-so in arms, opened up the luggage compartment, and pretended to stow his child.
The couple who were sitting next to me had one of those wimp-ass rat dogs in a sherpa carrier. They offered it to him.
In all seriousness, screw the other people in the plane. Obviously, you want Leta to be comfortable (and you want to be comfortable)...but beyond that, the rest of the plane can just suck on it. It's not like you're flying to Malaysia.
197. bella said:
I travelled on a plane for three hours with my firstborn when he was about five months old. I seem to remember keeping a boob in his mouth the entire way.
Also, just pack clothes. Buy diapers there. And keep consuming alcohol. A lushy mommy is a good look and keeps baby happy.
Good Luck!!
198. Sprizee said:
I have no advice to offer but how could I possibly pass up a chance to make this page just that much longer. Afterall it isn't everyday that dooce allows comments. Booya!
199. Jean said:
Make sure that Leta's outfit doesn't have metal snaps anywhere, not even the little crotch-snaps on a onesie. She has to go through security checks the same as you do and if she's like my kid she will not appreciate getting the big scary wand waved at her if the walk-through scanner beeps.
I'm not a fan of drugging kids who are physically healthy for the sake of parents' personal comfort or convenience. If you don't want to experience discomfort or be inconvenienced, don't travel.
Go ahead and google statistics on babies/kids getting injured during turbulence. Why anyone with enough money to buy 2 seats would not buy a 3rd and bring their own car seat is beyond me.
Can you nurse her in the bjorn? I've only ever seen one person do that and it didn't look comfortable. A decent open-ended sling can be a baby blanket, baby carrier, changing pad, lap seat-belt, peek-a-boo toy, and emergency wipe-rag. kangarookorner.com is where I got my favorite one.
Yes you can keep your boob in her mouth the whole time - you need to drink insane amounts of water and maybe take a little tylenol for yourself.
Cheap yet effective ear plugs by the case - mastermans.com.
A fancy hotel gave us a folding crib that had been recalled because kids were getting pinched by the hinges. Just get a room with a king sized bed and let her sleep between you.
Don't forget Leta is a little person and entitled to her own reactions to everything around her, whether you like those reactions or not.
200. Maureen said:
I have travelled with 2 kids- one who was an awesome traveller starting at 8 months and one who was and continues to despise being anywhere but in his own home.
If you don't need to pre-board, don't. Send Jon in to pack away the carry ons, etc. and then come on last. If you board early, you will sit there and fret about people taking their sweet time getting settled, etc. and in the meantime, Leta could get hungry and you'll miss the golden opportunity of nursing her with the whirring engines in the background that might lull her to sleep.
Take the aisle seat so you can walk with her or a flight attendant can take her or she can look at your seat mates across the aisle. If she's a flirty, smiley girl, some other passengers are gonna have a hoot with her and that might keep her entertained.
I don't think you need to bother with the dollar store toys 'cause she's not big enough to appreciate the "newness" of them. I didn't start doing gifts, etc. on the plane until my girl was 18 months old and could unwrap them. Bring her favourites- toys, books, etc. as the familiarity will do wonders for her sense of security.
Check a pack and play. Bring a blanket or sheet from home to line the bottom of it so that the plastic isn't rubbing her face. I hated hearing the kids roll around or turn over on plastic covers... it's not soothing and I think it woke them up, too.
Definitely take a change of clothing for you, Jon, and Leta. Spit up flies far and you don't know what kind of traveller she is yet.
Definitely breast feed during take off and landing... unless she's sleeping then obviously, relax and enjoy the peace.
If you can take a car seat on board with you, do. If you are lucky enough to get a 3rd seat, Leta might enjoy having her own space.
A flight attendant once told me that I wasn't the first mom to travel with kids who were having "difficulties" and I certainly wouldn't be the last. Again, that was with my son- my first born daughter was a dream (and continues to be) on any flight.
Have fun!!
:)
201. Norma said:
Holy cripe, there is no way you're going to read all these comments, but I'd consider bringing back Binky. Just kidding. It's hard to travel with baby. No two ways about it. Steel yourself for more screaming. My daughter got diarrhea on the plane. Lovely. Can you tell how much I loved it? She's 19 years old now, and I still remember it with a cringe. I wish you all the best. I am a serious fan of your writing. You'll get through it, but it ....well, it pretty much sucks. I'll be hoping good thoughts for ya.
202. dusty said:
After going through 4 of those little monsters now, I have to say that travel with a 5 month old is a walk in the park VS. 20 - 36 Month olds. Hell, enjoy it why you can.
203. alyssa said:
i apologize for taking up your bandwidth and posting again, but i must say that (my opinion is...) the people chastising the use of baby tylenol, motrin, benadryl or whatEVER are stupid.
people's ears pop on planes. it is not pleasant. that alone verifies giving her something, because she will be uncomfortable: why not ease that discomfort (and your own) with half a teaspoon of some medicine that is 99% sugar and 1% sedative anyway.i'm not saying a parent (or other caregiver) should use those medications generously or regularly, but i think calling it "child abuse" is a little extreme and displays quite a sheltered mindset. i have volunteered with foster kids for years and as a (former... obviously) victim myself--whine whine, i know--i know child abuse. it's just fucking ridiculous to say that a little benadryl or tylenol qualifies. i mean, jesus, you're not feeding her vicodin daily to shut her up.i mean, really. these are the people who would rather not sleep for six hours and just be miserable the next day, than take a tylenol pm to aid them in sleeping.a teaspoon of baby tylenol? OH GOD, THE HORROR!and though i don't want a baby, i would gladly make stupid faces at yours for hours. everyone acts like everyone hates to see children on a plane, but i enjoy sitting near babies, especially at that age, because they're so wide-eyed and adorable. while there are a few bad apples, please don't assume someone hates you and your baby just because they, too, are not laden down with children and/or playthings.and i'm still working on creating that dooce religion :)
204. Angela said:
Most of the good advice has already been said, so I will add only this:
1) Careful on the drugs--my girls react to it with the "opposite" wiring effect, as previously mentioned
2) I flew across the country with 8-month old twins and survived, if that is any consolation. :)
3) Try not to panic.
205. the husband said:
To all those who say that we shouldn't travel with our baby:
Motherfuckers,
Shut your holes. You were once a baby. I don't want to hear shit out of your cracks now.
Shut your ass crack whiny bitch asses up.
love,
dj blurb
206. shy said:
sorry if i'm repeating what some one else have already said. i admit that as a new mom, i'm just too tired to read through all 200-something posts. and it's election day here and Canada and going to the voting booth while being a mom took the wind out of me!
so anyway, we took our little one at 3.5 months of age over to my husband's home tome by plane.
she doesn't sleep well unless she's in her crib but we were able to get her calm down on the way up by feeding her right before the plane took off.
also was told that coming down hurts their ears more then going up.
so i was told to try and feed our baby on the way down.
yeah... like that's easy to do when the baby happens to not be hungry at that time.
sure enough, the pilot descended too rapidly and our baby girl screamed like a wild banshee.
however, the screaming actually helps relieve their pain.
it may not help the pain of those around you, but who cares about them... they only have to suffer for about 20 minutes.
as a parent, it's better for them to scream out the pain then, then to leave the airport screaming for a very long time.
good luck!
207. Cath said:
Boob and diapers to get you to San Fran. The MOST important thing to bring is earplugs for you and Jon. Nurse during takeoff and landing, and then put the ear plugs in. Youll likely never SEE these people again, so let'er rip! At least she'll nap later! I think you're a great mom who shares a lot of things that other moms feel but never dare express. (But I liked the 'Babies smell fear" comment. That made me giggle!) Enjoy your trip, but be sure to post about it! You serve a public service by amusing the masses!
208. shy said:
oh.. and i concur with dooce's husband... to tell them not to take their baby on their travels with them isn't called 'helping!'
dooce and jon. it's not that bad. honest. we survived with a younger baby on a plane (who was colic) so i am sure you guys will pull through fine.
but just in case, bring some of her favourite toys.
209. gaea said:
sorry. but the "babies smell fear" thing gave me an idea..
take along the 'benevolent dictator' onesie...but also have one made that says
"THIS IS MY FIRST PLANE RIDE...
I CAN SMELL YOUR FEAR!"
..and yeah. just enjoy it. screw the surplus population
210. MelissaS said:
Oh dear, did I forget to mention....baby tylenol is POISON!
I'm sorry. If you don't feel like POISONING your baby then you should just stay at home.
I have no problem POISONING my otherwise healthy babies just for my own personal comfort. This makes my life as a mother so much easier really.
Ease up people.
211. cpr said:
I think it would be nice, if you feel comfortable to do so, to make your baby very approachable to the nearbye passengers, so they are completely endeared to her. So if she does happen to throw a teensy tantrum later on, they wouldn't dare think awful thoughts like 'shut that kid up'. You know, maybe let them pat her little head, pinch her chubby little cheeks, coo at her, etc.. Work it! Also, I didn't think you were breastfeeding anymore, right? So what's with all this breastfeeding on takeoff/landing business. Will the baby get the same sucking affect with a bottle (to prevent ear clog)? Say, what about a MP3 player/walkman with little head phones that she can listen to soothing music to sleep or fun kid music if you want to entertain her, or even some Morrissey ? How about some preloaded entertainment on the laptop (cartoons in flash, etc..) or even download that Teletubbies show she likes and play that over-and-over-and-over-and...Have a great time in my town! I love your blog. It's hysterically funny. cpr
212. lorrie said:
Wow! You sure get a lot of comments!
My husband and I brought our 6 month old home from China in 1999. She's a "Leta"--sort of temperamental and fussy. Believe it or not she took to airline travel like a pig to mud. The stimulation actually seems to CALM some temperamental babies.
Do bring TONS of diapers and a change for you and Jon, too.
Buy a cheap stroller at Walmart and roll that sucker right up to the plane gate. It will be waiting for you when you get off the plane. Our $10 stroller from Walmart traveled to China twice and lasted 3 more years until somebody stole it.
Believe it or not Madeleine has been to San Fran and Hawaii from South Carolina (age 18 months), and we just got back from a trip to New York City with a 5 and a 3 year old that went very successfully. You can have adventures even with very small children. We're planning to take them to London when they're 7 and 5.
213. Dea said:
heh - I don't have any tips as I'm just 19 and sadly lacking baby experience (or not so sadly), but my mom is fond of telling me of the time she was flying with me and she got upgraded to first class. the uppity businessmen in the first class section with her were very offended to be included with a woman and her baby daughter ;-)
214. donna said:
When my sister was 6 months old, we flew from Vancouver to New York, stayed there for a week, then bought a bus and drove home. (My parents are insane, don't ask.)
Their ideas for travelling with a baby were quite simple: Bring me, the then-22 year old older sister so that when she was driving them nuts, they could pass her off on me and vice versa.
We also brought tons of crap. Between the three adults, we had our maximum allowance for luggage. Of course, this also included a suitcase of tools for the previously mentioned bus, but then, my parents are insane.
And they do have seatbelts for babies. She sits right on your lap, and is strapped to you, so even if the plane crashes horribly and somehow you survive? Don't worry, she'll still be stuck to your chest whether you hang on or not.
That said, when was the last time you heard about a plane crashing with survivors? I wouldn't worry about it. :)
The only really nasty experience we had was while driving back, we stopped in Niagra Falls for the night on my sisters fathers birthday. I said "Go, have dinner, celebrate!" and sent them off on their merry way. My sister proceeded to scream bloody murder for the next 45 minutes solid. Not being a parent and not WANTING to be a parent, I started getting a little neurotic. I was waiting for the hotel security to come banging on the door at any moment to ask me why I was beating the baby, and couldn't I please stop because hey, she's a loud little fucker?
They didn't. My parents eventually came home, I went for a walk because after that much screaming, I needed the nice quiet serenity of a tourist town on a friday night. *snort*
215. pete said:
a little over a month ago, my wife and i decided to take our daughter(18 month old) to thailand with us. that's an 18 hour flight!21 hours if you include the stopover. when the going go rough, we busted out the benedryl, which knocked her out for a good portion of the flight.
good luck with leta.
216. Terri said:
I actually prefer Motrin over Tylenol. My daughter is almost 1 year and she calms down much quicker with that. I've been giving it to her since she was about 3-4 months old and it's worked great. Good luck!
217. Jill said:
Bring your baby monitor. When Leta goes to sleep you and your hubby can have some free time alone outside of the hotel room without worrying about waking travel weary Leta up. Of course, test to see how far you can go (hotel bar/pool/jacuzzi) and figure out the fastest route back to her should she wake up. Have fun!
218. Photographer Lori said:
No advice from me....I'm childfree. Good luck. I'm sure it will be a memory to remember. :) Good or bad, it will be something to write about. Have a great time...SF is great! I'm in LA and the husband and I drive up the coast often....You two are really great parents! Don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise....LORI
219. Sue said:
OOH, TYLENOL!!! but don't forget the BOOZE!!
I liked the comment on re-insertion (of the baby!)...however, sounds a little more painful than giving birth...I would re-think that as an option..oh, uh-hmm, BOOZE!
220. The Hand said:
Okay, this one is easy. Don't give the crying a second thought. Instead, assign Leta a "backstory" that you can provide to any co-passenger who dares to shoot you a dirty look. For example, "Sorry about all the noise. We just told her she's adopted." It'll shut up your fellow travelers and give you something to laugh about the rest of the trip.
221. Jme said:
Leta gets to go on her first plane trip! What fun - considering I didn't get to even smell in interior of a plane cabin till I was a sad 17 year old. Anyway, from experience with travelling with sis when she was a baby, just bring enough diapers for the the flight and day, there's always more in SF. And definitely do the whole 'feed on take off and landing' thing - a lot of passengers will be thankful for that. And if your neighbour decides to give you and Leta annoyed stares when the baby is working her lungs, just make Leta show her the finger. I'm sure you've taught her that by now. Right? :D
222. katie said:
Tip on how to endear yourselves to other passengers (who see you with a baby and want to killkillkill): Buy a bottle or two of those foam earplugs at the drugstore and offer them to everyone seated around you. Seriously, if you do it with a bit of humor (our standard line is, "We've already lost our hearing from the screaming, but you don't have to!") your fellow planemates will love you and think you are exemplary human beings and parents.
Bringing along several changes of clothes is a great tip. But a better one is to fold up a few trash bags so you can stash any messy garments. And bring a few Ziplock (or similar) bags to deposit a messy diaper and wipes -- the flight attendants will love you, too!
You'll all be fine! Have a terrific flight and a great vacation.
223. Raymond said:
I think that all children should fit in the overhead compartment between the gymbag and the folded London Fog overcoat. This last can be used as a pillow and is, as I understand, quite comfy. The child should not be placed under the seat below you because feet have been there and you wouldn't want them whiffing toejam and coming down with some sort of infection.
For children held in the lap, they have those nice baby-sized bottles of liquor to soothe exasperated nerves.
In all seriousness, let Leta fly the plane, under strict supervision of the pilot, of course. She needs to learn a trade so she can take care of Momma and Daddy when they get old.
224. Julie said:
My daughter is almost the same age as Leta and has been on several plane flights. She actually does much better on them than she does in her car seat (which she hates). She tends to be fussy and for the first flight I was really nervous so I took a box of earplugs (enough for about 10 people) so I could give them to nearby passengers. I breastfed her on the runway and she was asleep before we even took off, slept throughout the entire flight and woke up when we were pulling up to the gate, so we didn't even need them! So maybe it will go better than you think! Also, we rented our car seat from Hertz instead of lugging ours around and it worked out great (as I said before she hates the car seat, but loves the Bjorn).
225. Hilarie said:
Good luck to the three of you on the trip! I think it's brave and admirable that you're going. Have a great time!
226. George said:
DONT USE THE BENEDRYL! Don't knock her out. It is a rather short flight and you want her awake and swallowing during approach and landing to equalize the air pressure. Otherwise you are going to be greated by the worst screaming you have ever heard when she wakes up!
One interesting thing you might do is get a middle seat between two strangers, particularly if you get airsick. Nothing is more inspirational than sitting hip to hip with a woman with a screaming infant who is spewing all over the fully upright and locked tray table. The effect is even better if you need to sit on the tarmac for a while without air conditioning upon landing. Ah ... the memories of travel.
227. Spring said:
-Breastfeed on take off and landing, it'll save your ears, her ears, and the ears of everyone around you.
-If you get a travel crib, take a sheet from home for her to sleep on. It'll smell like home and will help when it comes to sleeping, trust me.
-Bring.The.Bjorn. It's a lifesaver for a cranky child and she may actually sleep in it.
-If you do decide to drug her, make sure you clear it with your pediatrician and have her weighed, that way they can give you the correct dose.
228. Sheryl said:
Hi, It's me #96 again. I love advice and suggestions as much as the next clueless mom, but sweet merciful crap, I would be feeling a wee bit overwhelmed with all the "help." It really won't be that bad, have a great time!
BTW, I think the reason you have so many comments is we're all suffering from comment deprivation. I'm gonna close comments on my blog just to see if I'm flooded the next time I deign to open them.
229. Saladwhore said:
Do you honestly read all this?
Well, yes to the Benadryl and of course try it before you go to see how she reacts. And no, don't practices taking trips in the car with her in your lap because you will get a ticket for not having her in the carseat (that was quite a moronic suggestion.)
Another thing you could take is plenty of earplugs for those sitting nearby. :)
I do agree though, if you stay calm that will help Leta stay calm as well.
Oh, and she has the most amazing, intense eyes I have ever seen on an infant! You photograph her beautifully!
230. Julia said:
I was on a plane once and a woman from 10 rows behind me put her two week old baby in my lap and said that she had to go to the bathroom. She jetted and I sat holding her baby for 10 minutes watching for the bathroom door to reopen. Probably not recommended, but apparently considered a viable option for one mom out there! A whole plane full of possible babysitters for Leta.
231. Rollo said:
Dooce, you had a baby?
232. Katie said:
My husband and I are foster parents..yea major shock to my system...anyway, we had our first child about a month ago and he was 3. About the only way to get him to fall asleep was to take him for a ride..in about 20 minutes he was out COLD. But, that was in a car..the whole air-plane thing...yea, I think you might be screwed!
Hopefully it all goes well...oh, but I do have some words of advice for you...cough syrup, my friend..cough syrup.
233. Beth said:
When my son was a baby I changed him in the airplane restroom -- not easy, but do-able if the baby stays somewhat still. Heh. Some airplane restrooms have a pull-down changing table, but I think this is mainly the larger planes. I learned to change my son on my seat -- just had his dad flip up his armrest so we had two seats available. Bring a towel or disposable changing pad. Also, bring an extra shirt for yourself, in case Leta barfs on you. Yes, it can happen. (Bleah.) The other advice above is great, especially about feeding on take-off and landing whenever possible. Good luck!
234. domino said:
I am commenting without reading the other ones, so apologies if anyone has had the same bright ideas.
Dose Leta with Benedryl, as people have advised. Wrap her in paper towels. Put her in the main luggage, with a teated (is that even a word?) bottle of burbon in case she wakes up. When you get to San Fran, expect your luggage to be a bit messy.
Oh, and WHAT ABOUT CHUCK???
235. myla said:
Leta is going to do great -- I'd just see if you can get your seats in the bulkhead (where there's a lot more legroom and you can stretch out).
I look forward to seeing all the great photos (and reading the great stories). . . Enjoy your vacation, you've earned it! =)
236. Debbie said:
cargo areas are marvellous places to ditch your little one. Noone can hear her down there.
237. kim said:
my hostma used to travel with five kids from MN to spain. i can give you her email-adress ;o)
you're going to be fine with leta! i didn't read all of the 236 before mine (sorry, my boss.. you know) but i'm sure there's great advice for you. from my experience (aupair, five kids between 8 months and 8) i think you should definetely take "her" blanket and favorite pet so she has something familiar around. and then the hotel should have a crib. and toys! don't let her get bored. but there's so much stuff on the plane she can play with, too...
i really believe in the whole baby-reflects-parents'-condition-thing so as long as you two take it easy you'll be fine. and then there's always domino's advice..
238. Dipali said:
Have a great trip ! Enjoy your first trip with Leta...it will go smoooooooth !
239. cityjen said:
If people are shooting you dirty looks, look at them calmly, smile, and say "you were young once, too."
You will survive - we traveled from London to NYC to Dallas with a 9-month-old and we did.
240. kitschenette said:
a 5 month old babe is much easier to travel with than one who is already mobile! just to add to the huge mass of advice that is already here:
- take the baby bjorn. it's easiest and she'll probabyl be happiest next to you /jon. unstrap her when you/jon sit down, but just take the front off, leave the arms on so you cna easily get her back in when you disembark
- definitely give her a breastfeed on take-off / landing. it equalises the pressure in her eardrums and also helps to calm her should the take-off (big loud noise) scare her. i used to travel quite a bit with max when he was small and i always found myself feeding him pretty much the whole way until he fell asleep.
- i don't know how ong the flight is to san fran, but just remember, you have jon there with you, there are two of you to one adorable babe, so the ratio looks good! maybe she will sleep, and maybe she won't, but you'll be fine!
- good luck! enjoy san fran!
241. christine said:
As a seasoned Mom and traveler (my boys have lived to the ripe old age of 12 and 7) I can tell you that now is actually the easiest time to travel. Leta isn't yet trying to hike up and down the aisle of the plane and the bathroom doesn't yet have a fascinating hold on her. Definately breastfeed on take off and landing....or in desperation let her suck on your finger. (as an aside I wish I had fought the good fight and given up the Nuk early...mine hung on to their's way TOO long!). You can do this and have fun! I have traveled a lot with my kids (including a yearly 9-10 hour trip in the car with just the boys and myself and I've done this since they were babies)and we're still traveling AND speaking to each other.
My theories - What doesn't kill us makes us stronger!
Most of the people around you on the plane have either had children themselves or will one day regret ever making a commment because they will be in the same boat - or plane as it were.
Peace,
Christine
242. tawyna said:
unfortunately i don't really have much advice. i'm currently 6 months pregnant with twins (both boys)...and this is my first pregnancy! i can't do any travelling this year, so we plan to go to the beach with them next summer and that will probably be the first real travel experience.
i think you guys will be fine w/ leta. just enjoy yourselves!!!
243. Tanja said:
Making it short: BOOBS & BURBS. It's not only plugged ears that makes all our little rays of sunshine cry insanely on an airplane; it's also the bubbles of air in their stomach - from eating and sucking on paper tissues i.e. - that grow larger when taking off. So make Leta burb, maybe she can even charm some young, single solitaire-playing men?
244. Art said:
We have an 11 month old daughter, and although we haven't flown, we've traveled with her quite a bit (several overnights).
Try not to stress too much leading up to the trip...it really isn't too bad. We found that the change of scenery and new things to look at kept her very occupied.
Note: As long as my wife brings her boobs with her, Nora is just fine...they are the instant calming devices. :)
245. Suzy said:
I've never traveled with a baby and I hope to never have to!
Book some nice detox rooms for you and Jon, for your return home and drink enough during your trip to drown out the screaming.
246. Eddomatic said:
Well Dooce, after all those suggestions, mine won't matter, I was going to suggest baby hypnosis, it's normally done by waving the breast in a simultaneous rhythm back and forth, back and forth, until the baby falls into a deep trance... I don't know if this works on girl babies, but it works on all boy babies...
247. Jill said:
A shot of bourbon at the airport bar will work for both you and Leta. Do take stuff that smells familiar for her to sleep on. I know Leta's young, but I'd still bring an infant friendly dvd (home movies of Chuck?) and music she likes (with soft headphones for her) Don't worry about the other passenger if she screams...that's what they bring those noise reducing headphones for! Enjoy your trip.
248. Trance said:
I was once on a plane to New York next to a woman who massaged her baby right above the ears for almost the entire flight, and he seemed to be perfectly content. He also breastfed a good deal of the time.I wouldn't stress - if she cries, she cries - you and Jon are used to it, and feeding/dosing her should alleviate the worst of it if she gets her diapers in a twist. :) If anyone on the plane is that insensitive, give them the old double eagle salute. ;) Good luck!
249. emily said:
i don't have kids yet, but when i was about six months my mom took me on a plane and i screamed my motherfucking head off. there was nothing she could do. finally this well-endowed woman came up to her and insisted she hold me for the rest of the flight. apparently, i made myself quite comfortable on her big ole titties and went right to sleep. the woman told my mother she "just needed more bosom."
so, pass the frog to some big boobs, if need be. :)
250. Tracy said:
This is for a previous poster: Who the hell gives their 5 month old a slice of pizza to eat?????????
251. danni said:
I think that you should have Jon bring her on the plane and then shoot dirty looks at him if she starts to cry. Or you could just give her a handful of paper towels and when the flight attendants see that they will realize that you are an unfit mother and take her away from you for the flight. Getting her back might be a little tricky.
252. Mish said:
I like that massaging above the ears thing. I heard that babies cry on planes b/c of the pressurized(sp??) cabin. It seems to hurt their ears way more than our ears and they cant do that popping (not pooping!) thing. The massaging above the ears seems soothing and might help to relieve inner ear pressure. Thinking more, more children vs. adults get ear infections so maybe baby ears are way more delicate. Good Luck!
253. jilbur said:
Best advice here addressed the most critical problem (I infer from your previous posts): sleep patterns. I agree with posters who mention the pack'n'play. I wouldn't leave it to chance that the hotel will have an acceptable crib--I've had more than one bad experience with that. No matter how carefully you request it, you can't be sure what you are going to get. Besides, from what I read here, Leta is very much a creature of routines and habit. So: like someone else said, concentrate on making that Pack'N'Play a familiar place by using the same sheets and blankets she uses at home. familiar familiar familiar. Better yet, get the Pack'N'Play ASAP and start substituting it for the crib for naps, so that she doesn't have to make any adjustment on the trip (except place).
The plane is somewhat trivial. You're already way west, right? This is a couple of hours of your life. There's a limit to how bad it can be. Not as bad as labor, probably. Be as soothing as you can; offer the boob, or something else (the lollipop idea was fine; dried unsulphured mango is also a sweet, unchokable, drool-therefore-swallow-inducing treat) on takeoff or landing; and if she screams, please don't give a rat's heiner about your fellow travellers. If they aren't quarterwits, they know that all you can do is your best. They're supposed to be the adults, right?
254. Athena said:
Oh jeez, do not, repeat DO NOT rent Fearless (a la comment number 151). I don't have children OR a fear of flying but I seriously lost my shit watching that movie. Like, the sobbing uncontrollably kind of losing my shit. Seriously. Don't watch it until Leta is 37 years old. And even then, it might be too much.
255. mummie said:
Take it from an experienced flyer with babies, BUY A BABY DECONGESTANT!!! If you give Leta a decongestant 1 hour before you fly, this will HELP SO MUCH with hurting ears during the flight. I recommened childrens liquid advil decongestant if available to you. If Leta experiences this type of pain her entire flight and probably that entire day will be absolutely miserable. Other than that i suggest just take it all in stride and have fun, take lots of pictures. If you want to keep her busy on the plane buy/bring something NEW and FUN that she has not played with yet or is normally not allowed to play with-which will be ok now since you are sitting with her the entire time. Bring a walkman with headphones playing morrissey, shit bring some people food for her, fruit, something out of the ordinary that won't kill her. Get a window seat. Next time fly jet blue they have tv's with cartoons.
256. mummie said:
Take it from an experienced flyer with babies, BUY A BABY DECONGESTANT!!! If you give Leta a decongestant 1 hour before you fly, this will HELP SO MUCH with hurting ears during the flight. I recommened childrens liquid advil decongestant if available to you. If Leta experiences this type of pain her entire flight and probably that entire day will be absolutely miserable. Other than that i suggest just take it all in stride and have fun, take lots of pictures. If you want to keep her busy on the plane buy/bring something NEW and FUN that she has not played with yet or is normally not allowed to play with-which will be ok now since you are sitting with her the entire time. Bring a walkman with headphones playing morrissey, shit bring some people food for her, fruit, something out of the ordinary that won't kill her. Get a window seat. Next time fly jet blue they have tv's with cartoons.
257. Shawna said:
I wish I could offer some sage advice but since you have a baby and we're just in the "thinking about" stage, I learn about parenting from YOU (and your comments section).
258. Heather said:
If you'd like to minimize dirty looks from other passengers, take along half a dozen earplugs for those around you (I know, you barely have time to think about your own self let alone the wellness of strangers) & a change of clothes for yourself to carry-on in case Leta spews all over your carefully chosen matching, well accessorized flight outfit. We'll be going from MA to CA with our son (who'll be 8 months) in Dec, so I'll be bookmarking this page for my own selfish reasons! Let us know what worked for your family.
259. Frances said:
My bro. and sis-in-law invested in a truly splendiferous car-seat/stroller when they traveled from San Jose to Boston to see me last year. If you like, I can ask them where they got it.
Also, most hotels will be happy to place a crib and a fridge in your room for the baby so that you have someplace to store the baby and the baby food.
260. Kristylyn said:
Dear Dooce,
Since you have finally opened your comments - I thought I would take this oppertunity to just say that I think you are doing great with Leta. She is a beautiful little girl, and is very, very lucky to have parents like you and Jon. I wish I had some advice, but I'm only 16 - and thankfully not with a child of my own yet. Regardless, had I a child, I probably could not supply any information not yet given. Nevertheless, have a wonderful trip, take lots of pictures, and don't worry about how people on the plane react should she end up screaming, as chances are you'll never see the people again anyway. Best of luck,
Kristylyn
261. Dee said:
OMG - I cant believe I am telling you this after your binky experience but a binky is excellent for the plane. If they are sucking on it during take off and landing it keeps their ears from plugging up (that's what the ped told us when we took our DD to Europe anyway) -- :) My DD slept through the entire trip...we travelled at night so it was a normal sleep sched for her. I now want to take a trip with my DS but I fear this one.....his screams are just too much for mommy to take, I can only imagine the plane full of strangers...they may fling him and me out to the cargo area
Good luck
Dee
262. Carrs said:
Stuff with wheels is key. I have carried many a diaper bag for some poor woman struggling to carry on the baby, the diaper bag, the car seat and the giant mommy purse. I know Jon will be there, but even a small bag gets heavy fast and he needs all his strength to carry the Jim Bean.
263. Dave Thomas said:
Commenter #157:
Seriously? Google the stats for infant injuries during turbulence AND rent "Fearless?" To prepare for a flight with a kid?
That's Googling hijacking stats and renting "Speed" before riding the bus.
Not to trample any no-flame laws, but this perspective is ridiculous.
By the way, don't go to New York, because the polar ice caps could melt and you'll drown and freeze. Oh, and don't be Arnold Schwarzenegger, or you'll get pregnant.
264. Echo said:
I flew with my daughter when she was 15 days old, then back home again when she was about 3½ weeks old. I nursed her going up and coming down and she slept the rest of the time. The sucky thing was that the seats were so small and I was sitting next to a large man, it was hard to nurse her comfortably and discreetly (back in those days I cared about people seeing my boobs). I checked my carseat at the gate - I had too much other stuff to carry on! Bring the Bjorn - that thing is amazing!
Most of all - don't forget to have fun. Even if she screams, one day you'll look back and laugh!
265. Jae said:
260+ comments, Dooce! You are loved! Don't let this many comments make you think that traveling with an infant is rocket science. You'll all be fine! It's a short flight, Leta will probably sleep the entire time and all of this nonsense will be just that - nonsense.
And here's a round of applause for Dave Thomas, Julie, and The Husband.
266. Michelene said:
Visit this site: www.babysaway.com
They have everything from cribs to strollers. So you can see if they are in San Fransisco and that way you don't have to carry 100 pounds worth of gear!!!
267. Danika said:
Ignore all the ass people on the plane giving dirty looks or making comments. As others pointed out they were young once.
I've flown on flights with babies beside me, around me or not at all (either too quiet to hear or just no baby on flight) and even though I get tired of the crying I really don't mind it. I mean you have a right to travel just like anyone else does. Have fun! I'm sure you'll do great!
P.S As others have said don't forget to write alllll about it. :D
268. Thealias said:
The baby books/websites/mags. have so many articles and tips on traveling with your eyes will wear out before you are able to read them all. Unlike asking the web, most of their advice will be useful, not web crazy.
Oh, and hair gel for all three of you. You dont want to get to the city with plane hair.
269. Laura said:
So ironic that I would read this post just before flying from Omaha back to Ontario.
There were about 8 children under the age of two on my plane, most of them sitting in the rows in front of me. All of them were quite well behaved except for one who screamed the entire way to our stopover in Phoenix.
Here is what I learned: No matter how annoying, how cranky, how redfaced and bawling, this is your flesh and blood; the fruit of your womb. It deserves your compassion and affection.
Don't be a bitch to your kid.
Stay calm, stay pleasant and excited about the trip, and keep up the pointing and explaining absolutely everything that's going on. She won't have time to cry she'll be so busy listening to you!
270. jen said:
Somehow, I never have a problem with babies screaming on planes, mainly because they can't help it. I take issue with adults who act obnoxiously, or shoot dirty looks at moms or dads trying to do their best. THEY can help it. You do sarcasm well -- just look back at them and say, "Oh, sorry, that was my fault. I pinched her to see if I could get her to scream, but I meant to aim her at the person next to you."
I don't have kids yet, but I want them, and reading your site is helping me deal with the deep-seated fear of being a mom. So, thanks. A lot.
271. Another Pam said:
GOD! I hate people that think they can be pissy about babies on planes. I mean by all means be pissy but keep it to yourself. Like the dirty look or stupid comment will make you go "OHHHH I should comfort her? See I didn't think of that...thanks for being such a ASSHAT and pointing that out."
Also another word of caution...on one of our many flights with just me and my son I gave him gravol ONCE (he had been a little ill the day before we were set to go home). Anyway he was WOUND like a top for the entire day (2 flights and a 2 hr layover). BAD BAD BAD idea.
272. mac said:
Hi.
Great Project! First time that I came here, but I will return.
273. vic said:
i get the sneaking suspicion that the people who keep saying to breastfeed the baby on takeoff and landing are actually perverts who are booking a flight to san francisco in hopes that you'll be sitting next to them.
makes you wonder, huh?
274. Naaman said:
My mother-in-law runs a Russian daycare (seriously). Leta can hang out with the the kids, learn cyrillic, and eat borscht.
275. brian said:
I haven't read through everyone's comments, but here's my two pence:
Think about ponying up for another seat. You'll only pay half price, and you'll get a whole row to yourself. And you can carry a carseat on -- cos rental carseats are kinda nasty.
Our son did great on a flight from PA to CA, but he didn't appreciate getting his diaper changed in the airplane restroom. It's really noisy in there -- heck it's almost scary for me. If can avoid that, you'll be golden.
276. Stephanie said:
I will be a voice of dissent in the hundreds of comments.
Please get a seat for Miss L. If you can't use her carseat in the current proper rear-facing form, turn it forward. In the event of even moderate turbulence, a baby makes a really shitty projectile.
You can get a nylon carry case with straps like a backpack to haul the carseat around airports for all of $25 at amazon. You're going to need the carseat anyway and who wants to rent someone's used, befouled-by-another-foul-possibly-contagious-baby carseat? Blech.
Westin Hotels changed their infant cribs and sheeting in 2000 to match the adult sheeting--their big thing is that you sleep like a dream at their hotels. When you bring an infant to a Westin, you're getting a big, safe, crib, not a rickety, overused (again, befouled, nasty, possibly germy) deathtrap.
Get the kid a ticket. Please. She's worth it.
277. Leigh McClurg said:
Wow. I frequent this site periodically and am always dumbfounded by your honesty and openness, by expressing such sentiments about your child and family. Just be careful of asking for advice from the web in general, because like it's name it can be entangling. "she who builds on the advice of many will live in a crooked house."
278. Stephanie said:
Serial commenting:
I don't work for Westin. I just recommend staying there.
Signed,
Stephanie, who loves traveling with her child
279. britney spears said:
dooce: forget your blog. i am going back in time to read all the comments you get! holy crap, this stuff is great.
and of course i could never forget your blog. your bandwidth problems? i have to check for updates AT LEAST three times a day.
280. BytchInNY said:
Wow! A brave move but I really think you will get through it as with everything else!
I'm going to have to agree and say you might consider buying another seat for Leta. Even if she is in your lap the entire time it'll give you the whole row and more room to move around and park appeasement toys.
I also recommend you take some valium or alcohol in large quantites or some such as I'm sure you're going to be extremely stressed out about the situation which will prob wind up being a non-event anyway :)
281. cee said:
If you need a stroller in SF, I'd also take it right up to the plane door to check there. They always have people with people with small children board first, which is helpful, but also means you'll be sitting in your seats for longer...
I'd nurse on takeoff and landing, if she is not in the mood for that... eating or sipping water from a bottle works to unplug the ears... anything to make them swallow.
Pack lightly as far as gear goes. You can also rent an approved carseat with your rental car!
Lastly, lots of books, toys, diapers and change of clothes in the carry-on bag! I was surprised how my very fussy, high maintenance 2 mos. old son travelled on planes! The white noise lulled him to sleep everytime!
Good luck! Oh, and I was going to say, I think the majority of people on the plane have all had to deal with their own fussy kids at one time or another on flights.... mostly they feel for ya because, they've been there too. You'll be fine! Enjoy!
282. Secret Agent Josephine said:
Oh my goodness, how can you possibly read 280 comments? I'm only commenting because I assume you'll never get to mine. This is truely amazing. A true celebritiblog.
283. bellabelly said:
Traveling mercies to all of you.... But who is keeping the dog?
284. Deirdre said:
Bwahahahahahaha. Sorry. I took my child to SF when he was five weeks old and to Hawaii when he was nine months old so I guess I am experienced (and have the mental scars to prove it).
1)Do bring a package of diapers. You'll use them up and have "extra" room for whatever you acquire.
2)Bring crib sheets and maybe a stuffed animal from home. (Hotels usually have cribs, but if you're lucky like us your child will choose the first night of vacation to learn how to stand up in the crib and not know how to get back down.)
3)Accept that you will be exhausted. Don't try to do too much.
4)Remember a baby thermometer and tylenol or motrin.
5)You'll survive and the pictures will make it all worth it. (Extra points for baby pictures on the GG Bridge).
285. Kieran said:
#284 YES! So i better give some good advice or have something whitty to say.
Dont get married! But if you do, do it in Jamacia!
286. Tammy said:
Have f-u-n on the trip!! Make sure you have family members at the gate (or in most airports at the other side of security) that you can dump child, baby seat, excess luggage, diaper bag, squeek toy, kitchen sick and cobwebbed pacifier. The key to visiting family you don't see regularly: use and abuse, dude. Use and abuse. crap, it doesn't even have to be a relative. You can just lure (cough, persuade) one of your readers to meet you under the guise of "getting together for drinks." It works every time. I mean, good luck with that ;)
And once again, Have the F word!!! F-U-N
287. tami said:
OK, I successfully flew alone from L.A. to Iowa with my 3 month old and later at 8 months of age when we fled the insanity and returned to the midwest(or is it Midwest?). At any rate, there were no technological advances like the Bjorn or D-70-I haven't a clue what those things are, but then I'm nearly beyond the child-bearing period in my life.
Breastfeeding is the best-how could one not feel comfortable nursing on a plane? Just take Leta's blanket, which surely already smells of your milk, and throw it over Leta and your boob.
All the advice about take-off and landing is so right on target. I held my son the whole way, but that was made a bit easier as I did call the airline in advance to request a bulkhead seat (explaining that I would be traveling with a baby, which by the way is not rude-this is America after all) as you'll have more room leg room and no one in front of you to annoy or annoy you back. You'll also have a lot more floor room to change Leta should the need arise. For me, this was the one unexpected event. My son had a huge breast-fed baby poop blowout, which ran out of the diaper and soaked through his cute little travel outfit. I had to change him in front of this very manly and huge cowboy (hat included) who had the good fortune to be seated next to me. I used up my entire wipe supply with this one poop trying to keep it off the plane carpet, myself, and the cowboy.
So:
1. Request a bulkhead seat
2. Breastfeed (and don't eat chocolate the night before you travel)
3. Take a change of clothing and a few more wipes than you think you'll need
4. Ditto on getting the crib arranged on the SF end, and you already know my experience with traveling and Binkies-don't even go there-you've already done the right thing!!
5. The boarding early thing can be a dual-edged sword. You will get the evil eye from those who believe you are being rude by traveling with a baby either as they come in and pass you by, or when you come in and pass them by. If Leta does better by being bounced and walked, boarding early significantly impedes meeting that need.
Good luck!
288. Julia said:
Baby Benadryl BUT, test it on her first, some babies, well, they have an opposite reaction. You're breast-feeding, right? You don't need anything else. People will understand more than you think. They may even help. Relax. Sorry, I'm not very clever. Have a good trip.
289. Carolyn F. said:
Do you have nursing shirts? I always ended up with some random man next to me. It was a lot less stressful to have a shirt designed to cover.
I just travelled BY MYSELF with a 5 year old and a 3.5 month old -- my baby is close in age to Leta. My older son was easy, just a few new workbooks and toys. The baby slept most of the time, did need a poopy diaper changed (the lavatory had a changing table space!) and was happy looking around at everyone. It really won't be that bad. If she screams the whole time, just remember that the flight will eventually end.
290. joe said:
relax, 'cos by the time you finish reading all 290+ comments, you will have missed your flight.
i'd invite you guys over if you make it to sf, but i don't like kids. maybe just bring the dog instead? i like dogs.
291. nikki said:
Travel light - just with the diaper bag if possible. Take toys she likes. Nurse her at take-off and landing. It's best to travel during nap times, as she'll sleep a lot of it. I actually like to travel with the boppy because it gives her somewhere to sit. Take a change of clothes for her AND you. She might spill/poop/spit-up all over you.
While you're in SF, try to keep to her schedule as much as possible. Let her nap when it's naptime, and go to sleep when it's her bedtime. The more you stick to that, the happier she'll be!
292. Beverly said:
I'm sure it's all been said by now, but I'll add my two cents anyway.
In my experience, traveling with kids always sounds much harder than it actually turns out to be. Plus, Leta is at a great age to travel with -- past the tiny, fussy baby stage but still little enough to be (mostly) easily entertained. I'm sure your trip will be great, and I can't wait to read all about it!
293. Emily said:
Call the airline and ask them to assign you a window and an aisle seat. That way, you're more likely to have a spare seat in your row. Buy Leta some new toys and bring them out when you think she'll lose it. And don't stress. It's only a 2 1/2 hour flight :)
294. Rori said:
Cripes. I got as far as #6 and I want to shove paper towels down that person's throat and light them on fire.
Okay, back to reading.
295. Michelle said:
I was on a plane with a screaming kid once, but he was about a year old. The poor parents tried everything to get him to quiet down without much success. Once we got off of the plane, his dad told me I could punch him if I wanted to. (The kid, not the dad.) Humor goes a long way. Have a great time!
296. brighamvicious said:
the whiskey sounds like a good idea...maybe one of those portable pet carriers too...
297. Sieue said:
Definately take just one more daiper than you think you'll need in your carry-on luggage. Don't put a leaky drink in there with them! Also a spare change of clothes (doesn't have to look cute and a onesie take sup very little space). You can buy absolutely everything you forget once you get there so don't get stressed about the things you have forgotten. Don't forget to enjoy yourself.
Best of luck.
298. susie said:
I don't have time to read all of the advice you've been given here so forgive me if I'm repeating bits you've heard. All the baby stuff is covered so what I'm saying is you and the mister should remember to wear no metal and shoes that go on and off easily. It's gotten to where I just about travel in my pajamas after being asked to practically strip at security. Get there plenty early to go through the long security lines and remember no pointy stuff in the carry ons - they'll take it away from you. Have a blast in San Fran - one of the best cities in the world.
299. Jen of the Island said:
It doesn't matter what you pack- you will have forgotten the one thing you will need the most.
Benadryl didn't work for sleeping until my child was 18 months. I used to use a few drops of infant Gravol... if you have that in the states... its a form of dramamine. She was down for the entire flight and everyone thought I had the **Sweetest** child.
Good luck!
300. bigbigtruck said:
As a frequent traveler, I usually encounter screaming babies on planes. Eh, they're babies, they can't help it. The screaming doesn't bother me - that's what earplugs are for.
HOWEVER - I beg you: please please please do diaper changes in the airplane bathroom. Breathing recycled poop-air is just... ugh.
Good luck.