Where my pinky gets a little itchy with the shift key
Jon is about this close to activating the parental controls on our DirecTV so that I can no longer watch anything on Discovery Health Channel or TLC. It started a few months ago when I accidentally stumbled upon a show about a new fad in childbirth called Freebirthing where women have their babies at home without the aid of a nurse or midwife or any trained professional. And at one point there was this three-year-old kid going WHY IS MOMMY SCREAMING LIKE THAT?! And the woman is clawing at this head coming out from between her legs, and she's all GET IT OUT! GET IT OUT! Except, there is no one there who knows how to get it out, and her husband is just standing there shrugging like DUDE, THIS WAS YOUR IDEA!
I found the whole thing totally fascinating because you've got to have a special combination of bravery and stupidity going on to attempt such a thing, but Jon has not ever recovered from watching it. In fact, one night last month they ran the episode again, and there I was in bed eagerly awaiting the part where the woman has to get in her car, drive herself to the hospital and ask someone to pull out her placenta, when Jon walked in and was all NO WAY, NOT AGAIN, TURN IT OFF, TURN IT OFF, TURN IT OFF. Oh, come on! Television doesn't get better than this! The look on that doctor's face when he says, "You want me to what?" And she's all, I don't know what the big deal is, I just had a baby at home in front of my three-year-old and this damn placenta won't come out, can't you just yank it for me? Give it a little tug?
And then, of course, there's that loathsome show "A Baby Story" on TLC that follows real couples through the last few weeks of pregnancy. I cannot stop watching it, even though it makes me violently angry. I just cannot believe the bedside manner of some of the doctors on that show, and I'm not even kidding, twice in the last week I have watched a doctor wave the arm of the newborn infant at its mother AS IT IS BEING PULLED FROM THE WOMB. No, wait. Let me finish. These doctors treated these seconds-old babies like puppets, waved their little arms wildly in the air, and said, "Hi, Mommy!" in a high-pitched voice as if that is exactly what they would sound like and say upon taking their first breaths. WHILE THE LOWER HALVES OF THEIR BODIES WERE STILL INSIDE THEIR MOTHERS.
You have got to be shitting me.
I was telling Jon about these episodes yesterday, my voice getting louder and louder with each gruesome detail, and he decided that this was it. No more cable television while I'm pregnant, just look at how needlessly angry it was making me. I made him promise me that if my doctor looked at all like she was going to treat the baby like a puppet that he should immediately knock her to the floor, because otherwise I would one day show up at her house with a crowbar and then spend the rest of my life appealing an assault conviction. WHO KNEW that you might have to include a line in your birth plan that says, "If at all possible, could you please not play ventriloquist with my newborn baby."
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1. Daddy Scratches said:
Gotta go with Jon on this one. Six years ago today, I saw my firstborn enter the world through my wife's vagina. That was plenty intense, and definitely left me with no desire to take on the stress of watching someone I don't even know go through it on television, thank you very much.
2. Milla said:
...still shivering...
3. Deb said:
I keep checking your blog for the birth announcement. I never thought I would get so excited about a virtual stranger's baby. Best of luck to you all!
4. Anonymous said:
I'm not even pregnant and I can't get enough of those shows....or the shows about obesity. I can't look away, it's all too fascinating for me to wrap my little brain around.
5. Jacquie said:
Oh, the image is just too good. I was obsessed with that TLC show during both of my pregnancies, and could never get my head around that "two weeks later" bit where they visited the happy family's calm, tidy home and the beautifully dressed and made up new mothers welled up with tears of joy for the miracles that had befallen them. As I sat there oozing from every orifice, swollen and ugly and mean, I had to stop myself from throwing saturated breast pads and shit coated clothing at the tv screen.
6. Bluestalking said:
Which is worse, your baby waving at you while half in your vaginal canal, or the doctor pretending the placenta is one of those creatures from 'Alien,' hoping you'll scream like Sigourney Weaver?
Discuss amongst yourselves.
7. Julie said:
OMG, that is truly horrifying. I am glad that I never stumbled across that insane Freebirthing show, nor never saw an episode of A Birth Story where they waved half emerged babies around like puppets. That is seriously F-ed up. How do you sleep at night after seeing that?! Especially while pregnant. Everything gave me nightmares while I was pregnant!
I know I'm old-fashioned, but I prefer my birthing experiences in a hospital with folks who know what they are doing and gently lay my baby on my chest after birth WITHOUT giving into the urge to do a performance with them.
8. Tina Babb said:
Well, my sister had her baby today. They had to do a c-section because she had almost no amniotic fluid left. Little girl 18 in. 6 lbs 11 oz. Don't worry Heather, she'll be here soon enough. And if the Dr. waves her arm at you, kick her in the face. She's right there.
9. Patience said:
Look, Heather, you have to cover every possibility. Ventriloquism urges included.
10. kristen said:
the ventriloquist doctor kinda justifies the idea of freebirthing....
11. Erin said:
Weird. A Baby Story always makes me cry and reminds me I'm not dead inside. Especially if the dad cries. Then I LOSE it. I haven't seen the muppet move yet but damn that it creepy.
12. In Due Time said:
I think I can safely say, I am glad I haven't caught those episodes. Because seriously, "Are you shitting me?"
BTW, I totally love the new header and that week's pics. I about died when you posted them. Ha!
Looking forward to you having NotMaria notwaving at you upon her entrance!
13. jean said:
For me the worst is the show where the baby and/or mother has some type of risk. Always at the end, even for the ones where the risk is slight, is the booming voice saying, "Thank goodness for the highly-skilled staff at St. Middle of Nowhere Hospital who used extraordinary procedures to clutch this baby from the jaws of death..." All it serves to do is scare the be-jeezus out of anyone and foster the notion that if the mother has so much of a hangnail, giving birth is some kind of procedure that dare not be done without a circus of doctors and sci-fi equipment.
Hang in there. A few more days until you morph into 2...
14. Mari said:
Whoo boy, you're going to incur the wrath of the Utah home-birthers for this one. I'm pretty sure you can handle it, though.
One of my favorite episodes on TLC or Discovery (can't remember which) involved a woman who planned to give birth in the tub at home. Completely naturally. Beforehand, she spoke of how the warm waters would ease her labor pains and make the whole birthing process a peaceful, beautiful experience. I swear to God, about five minutes after they put her in the tub, she started screaming, "get me out of this fucking (bleeped, of course) tub!" I guess I shouldn't have found it amusing but I did.
15. clay said:
have you seen that show - something like "i didn't even know i was pregnant?!"
that show is horrible and engrossing, and should also be called "i'm fat and have unprotected sex regularly... and i'm a bit retarded"
16. Meagan said:
It just occurred to me that you did not name your last child Norah Jones Armstrong, as promised. I'll be waiting.
17. Tabitha (From Single to Married) said:
I am so checking out that show now! Sometimes just watching bravery and stupidity is theraputic. It makes you forget all of your own troubles. I mean who can compete with having to drive to the hospital in the middle of labor? Makes my problems seem small in comparison.
18. Annie said:
LOL! I saw that show, too. That chick was classic. Our doula asked the L&D nurse to show us the placenta. It was both fascinating and totally disgusting at the same time.
19. Amanda said:
ew. ew. ew. i hope no doctor does that to MY newborn baby, i'd punch him (or her) in the face. with my vagina.
20. Bodnoirbabe said:
Oh holy crap. Suburbanite women are some of the bat-shit craziest women out there. Fuck getting in touch with nature. GIVE ME THE DRUGS!
21. Jen B said:
My husband DID lock all of those Health channels when I was pregnant. It was bad news. I still have nightmares.
22. Elizabeth_K said:
I have steered clear of those shows, just because of what you say. I get my pregnancy crazy (so to speak) just from reading you and other further-along-than me pregnant women ... :)
23. tia said:
okay that just FREAKED me out.
i never thought of that possibility and now have one more thing to scare Hubs with when he brings up the idea that yes, maybe now would be a good time to try to have a baby.
thanks for the ammo.
24. Marnie said:
I'm waiting with baited breath for the first pictures of not-Maria. . . & my sympathies with the end-of-preg crazies. I remember them all too well, and have been known more than once to berate my (now-eighteen-year old) younger daughter that she was FOUR DAYS LATE.
25. Jess said:
How about the one where the women claim to have orgasms while giving birth!? Now, that's a scary show!!!
Love the new header!!! :)
26. Betsy said:
Dear Heather,
Many women these days are opting for alternative birth plans in settings other than hospitals. I gave birth to all nine of my healthy sons in a tub in my living room with only my husband, a camcorder and a doula with dredlocks who thereafter fried up my placenta. I am shocked an offended that you would imply that I am an idiot.
Juuuuuust joking. (But be prepared for comments like this one).
And for cryin' out loud! Someone give Daddy Scratches the I-refresh-Dooce-in-my-browser-more-than-ANY-of-you Award!
27. leesavee said:
I keep waiting for pictures of your mucous plug to be posted online, Heather, and now I'm hoping for placenta pictures, too! THE WORLD needs to see these things! :)
Here's hoping they give you all the best drugs and that there is no puppeteering going on in the delivery room.
Can't WAIT for the twitters! :)
Seriously, though, good luck to you, John, Leta, and Baby Not Maria/Possibly Donette. Sending you the warmest of wishes.
28. Farmer John's Wife said:
OMG you saw it too! I am pregnant with twin girls, and my husband and I stumbled over that exact show about freebirthing a few weeks ago. He completely freaked out and kept going "I can't watch this" and "we really should turn the channel", but, I just couldn't make myself turn it off - it was too weird to miss. I can't imagine why somebody would take such huge risks with their babies, not to mention their own bodies, I just don't get it.
On a different note, what are the top 5 overrated babythings/gear that we should NOT run out and buy? Any advise would be appreciated :)
29. patrice said:
so was the freebirthing woman totally proud of herself for it? I worked with a woman who had her baby at home with a midwife, and it was almost as if she wanted me to believe that her baby was somehow more alive than mine was. like having my baby in a hospital resulted in its possibly not being all the way born. I have a teenager now and believe me, after about year 6 or so, you don't CARE how they got there anymore.
30. Helen said:
If I am flipping tv channels and come across a birthing mama on TLC I am somehow forced to watch it. Like a moth to a flame as they say.......and sometimes I cry a little. My baby of 4 kiddos is 20. Births are all miracles. Can't wait for your little miracle to arrive. I know you will just do great. Happy Laboring, Dooce! ( and Jon :)
31. Robin said:
I with Deb, i check this site every single day, sometimes twice a day. I'm eagerly awaiting the arrivial of not maria.
32. Jennifer said:
As a labor and delivery nurse and future certified nurse midwife, these shows make me want to CLAW MY EYES OUT (shifty finger syndrome is contagious). Half of the things they show are full of hyperbole and inaccurate information, and overall they aren't a balanced view of childbirth in this country.
On another note, every time "Dooce" pops up in my Google Reader I wonder if it's not-maria's birth announcement! I started reading your blog just after Leta was born. In fact, a friend sent me the link to your birth story because I was trying to get into nursing school and wanted to work in labor and delivery! I hope you have a wonderful birth experience, and I can't wait to hear about it!
33. Jme said:
you are so freakin hilarious. because everything you said is so true.
34. Bonnie B. said:
I feel bad for Jon, but I'm laughing like crazy at the same time!
I have a question, though. Don't you think it's more entertaining and fun watching those programs BECAUSE this is the second baby for you? Thinking back to my first pregnancy, that kind of stuff would have scared the crap outta me. But the second time around? Pfffft!! Bring it!
35. Wilson (Mate Expectations) said:
Holy shit are you funny! I'm only 18 weeks pregnant, but I laughed so hard I nearly lost *my* mucous plug.
36. Cyn said:
I don't know what it is about pregnancy hormones, but with both my pregnancies I watched marathon sessions of "A Baby Story" and "Law and Order." Haven't watched either show since...
And Freebirthing? I wonder who came up with that name? Kris Kristofferson?
37. kim said:
I don't want to be a downer of anything but I just had a miscarriage after 20 weeks of pregnancy on Sunday...this week has been...difficult...this post though? this made me laugh.
thank u :)
38. Shan said:
Oh don't worry Deb, I'm the same way. I've been following Dooce for so long I feel like I'm a friend of the family. *sigh* I remember when Leta was born!
39. Kate said:
Oooh! I need to find this show. I was sad when they took all the surgeries off Discovery Health. Nothing like flipping through the channels and OOP! Testicle repair! Or HEY! THTAT'S what birth looks like? Fascinating.
Totally agree on the ventriloquism. That's a scary enough hobby when half-born children aren't involved.
40. Barb - WillThink4Wine said:
While comments are still open I just want to go on record as saying I do NOT want to see photos of the placenta or a ventriloquist baby wave. Just saying.
BTW, how DO you decide which posts you have comments open and which you have closed? These things keep me up at night. Seriously. So help me out, will ya?
41. dooce said:
I'm all for women having babies at home with midwives or some sort of trained professional, whatever you want to call them. This is not at all a rant against home birthing.
42. Lys said:
At this point in my pregnancy, (as someone sadly lacking cable) I found myself quizzing every mother I knew about the gory details of her labor. A cable block may not stop the rubbernecking.
As a sidenote, I remember having to answer the phone "still pregnant" by week 39, so I can only imagine what you must be getting from the entire internet at this point... I think it may be your comedic/snarky duty to start messing with all of us.
43. Melissa said:
I just love your blog! It inspired me to start my own. I am 33 weeks along and these last weeks are dragging by. I'm sure you are on the edge of your seat with just day(s) to go. I've watched many of these shows and finally had to cut myself off. Although after reading this, I'm half tempted to see if I can catch one on now. It's like watching a car wreck I suppose, hard to look away! Good luck with your labor!
44. Jenae said:
I would probably get up and punch her in the face myself...
I someone were to ask me "what would be the most awkward thing that could ever happen to you?" THAT would be #1.
45. Halala Mama said:
I know exactly what you mean! I was glued to TLC and Discovery Health the last part of my pregnancy. I watched the shows that highlighted difficult pregnancies in particular because then I felt like I was ready for ANYTHING (anything the doctor told me to do anyway). A guy friend of mine insisted that "Pregnant women should be banned from television and the Internet for the duration of their pregnancies."
46. Andrea said:
hahahahohohohohehehehehehahahaha
47. SweetWong said:
I will be forever trying to get those images out of my head. Yet, I am also addicted to those shows! Which only fuel my paranoia and anxiety. It's form of self torture. You should check out the show called "I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant". You gotta wonder about some of those women...
48. Carol said:
When I was pregnant with my first I was on bedrest and never got to go to prenatal birthing classes. I did have some woman come to my house who told me to imagine my cervix was a flower and that I could open it with my breath. What??? Later I watched a video that Fernando Lamas made with his wife that was really into natural childbirth and Lamaze. When the wife went writhing and shrieking into the delivery room I almost fainted. My husband took the VCR away from me after that. Good luck. Youw will be fine.
49. SaritaPagita said:
You took the words right out of my mouth and said mouth has not closed since I read this post. I am not even pregnant and the thought of a doctor doing that incites some serious anger. All I can say is - they must've been male doctors. Don't get me wrong, I love me some men, but c'mon!
50. Cher said:
that is disturbing on many levels. please, don't watch any more of the horror.
51. Becky said:
Anyone who has issues with alternative styles of birthing should do themselves a favor and see The Business of Being Born. Key word there: Business.
We need to take back our births and support a mother's choice to have her child in the way she most feels comfortable.
As an advocate for Natural Birthing, I really have a hard time with the Unassisted births,but who am I to judge. I only hope there is an emergency plan in place for the safetly of the unborn.
Blessings with your birth,
Becky
52. TED said:
Oh your poor husband. Freebirthing sounds like DIY taken to an unhealthy extreme. I blame all those TV shows that make it look like you can easily lay your own hardwood floor. YOU CAN'T. On the plus side, the next time Jon decides to take on a project that you know is beyond his capabilities, you can just tell him that he's freebirthing. If he persists, threaten to show him the TV show again.
53. Anonymous said:
The OB/GYN that was on call the night my son was born did the puppet thing. I was less concerned with the puppetry and annoying voice than I was with the fact that THERE WAS STILL HALF A BABY IN THERE and oh my hell get him out! Hope you don't have to deal with this, or any other unpleasant birthing surprises as Not Maria makes her debut.
54. Emily said:
I just had my second kid in December and I am STILL watching A Baby Story. I can't stop. Every day at 1 I'm compulsively switching it on.
My favorite episode is the one where the doctor is holding the baby up over the c-section drape to show it to the mom, and there is GOO and BLOOD and GORE dripping right off that baby and onto the mom's FACE. What makes it extra cruel is that it is a C-SECTION and her ARMS ARE TIED DOWN and how is she supposed to wipe PLACENTAL GOO OUT OF HER EYES? BLAH.
I am sorry, I know that despite loving that little newborn baby with all my heart and soul, I would NOT ENJOY HAVING MY OWN LIQUID UTERINE CONTENTS SPLASHING ON MY FACE.
(My second runner-up is the one where the dad tries to prevent the mom from getting an epidural. HOO BOY is that one dude I would like to punch in the gonads.)
55. Yaz said:
I went and googled Freebirthing. And saw a youtube video. I'm in shock. Also, ouch. Also. OMG THATS FREAKING SCARY!
56. Val said:
Holy crap, that show sounds horrifying. I must find it and watch it!
BTW, the comments are cracking me up. Your readers are HILARIOUS. Especially Betsy! LOL
Can't wait to virtually meet NotMaria!
(My Captcha words are Cadwalader Dreyfuss... that sounds like an awfully good name....)
57. SaritaPagita said:
You took the words right out of my mouth and said mouth has not closed since I read this post. I am not even pregnant and the thought of a doctor doing that incites some serious anger. All I can say is - they must've been male doctors. Don't get me wrong, I love me some men, but c'mon!
58. Sarah @ BecomingSarah.com said:
I'm the pregnant one and I'd be cancelling cable if I saw any of that stuff. I remember watching a birth on television a few months ago and I'm still walking around twitching and shuddering just thinking about it. Ugh. Sometimes I think that a serious lack of foresight goes into this whole "let's have a baby" thing. I probably would not have been so enthusiastic with the ovulation sticks had I known what my poor vagina was in for.
59. Rebecca said:
I was a doula and the things I saw doctors do gave me nightmares for years. I had to quit being a doula after about 3 years because when the doctor would walk in the room I would have a panic attack and think I was about to die, literally.
One time I had a trooper of a fist time momma... she had labored through 12 hours of induced labor, drug free, and just so happened to be 10cm at about 5:30 pm. HER BODY SCREWED HER! The Dr. comes walking in (wishing he was at home or on the golf course, I'm sure), no lie, didn't even check the mom, just said to his nurse, "Go get the forceps let's scare that kid out of there!" I am sooooo not lying! The mom flips out and says, "No! Let me try to push!" This first time mom pushes like a mad woman and the baby is coming down nice... she was on her second push, the head was crowning... For a first time mom that is fabulous! Next thing you know, for absolutely no reason and no warning at all the Dr. who was in such a rush, cuts the woman from the front straight into her ass! I mean to tell you she looked like a filet of fish, laid open. The baby fell out. The Dr. caught him. The baby couldn't breathe because all the fluid that is in a baby's lungs from being in the womb are naturally pushed out during a normal birth.... the pressure from the tight birth canal acts almost like the Heimlich maneuver, to get all that stuff out so they can come out breathing... Well not this baby. He instead got to stay in ICU for 2 days while they had to put tubes down into him to get the fluid out. By the way, it was NOT muconium... just fluid from the bag of waters he was in, in his momma's womb.
That was the last hospital birth I attended. I could tell you nightmare story after nightmare story. In the 3 years I was a doula I only saw a couple births that were uneventful and pleasant. Every doctor wanted to intervene and intercept and mess with what the body was naturally designed to do and every woman was completely powerless to stop her Doctor. Those who tried to make informed decisions concerning their body and their baby were treated like they were stupid, or like they were a bad mom for wanting to “kill their baby”. Heather, this is why women feel forced to birth their babies at home with out medical assistance; because to invite modern medicine into your birth experience is to invite a total lack of control into your birth. Once you step into a hospital you are no longer in control of your body or your birth, no matter what your doctor tells you when you are sitting in his office in your first trimester… when it comes to Birth Day, it is a totally different story all together. Your birth plan doesn’t mean a single thing, most of the time.
60. Leigh Anne said:
I hate the freebirthing show. It makes homebirths look bad. Homebirths are very safe as long as there is a trained midwife or other professional there. Shows like that irritate the crap out of me.
And don't get me started on how doctors treat newborns or their mothers...garrrr....
easy labor vibes to you....
61. Sara said:
I haven't seen it yet, but don't let Jon set the controls before you check out "I didn't know I was pregnant." I can only assume that these are reenactments (for obvious reasons), but I can't wait to see it and I have only 7 weeks left before pregnancy hormones no longer justify my obsession.
Good luck with the birth!
62. Kelly said:
Have you seen the Ricki Lake documentary on home birth? (It's not her documentary, but they do show her home birth.) It is horrifying. Especially in places where they make the mother's experience of the birth a priority and think that people obsess too much about "the health of the baby." I couldn't turn away, but ugh. These women act like it was a great experience and romanticize the pain, but maybe they need to watch their own footage again.
63. Heather said:
Oh my god this was hilarious. I keep checking your blog- I feel like we're on Armstrong Birthwatch 2009, and it needs some really awesome CNN graphics and theme music to go with it (think "Miracle on the Hudson" or "Decision 2008"). As for me, well, I haven't had kids so I can't speak to whether or not I'd do home birth or go to the hospital (probably hospital because I'm a worrier and I can just see myself having a freakout panic attack in the middle of giving birth). But that show sounds downright scary and A Baby Story always makes me cry so I don't let myself watch it. :)
64. Joy said:
Three months ago, I birthed my baby at a birthing center with a midwife (in a tub no less), and yes, it was the hardest thing I've ever done, but also the most rewarding/amazing experience I've ever known. However, I would NEVER do free birth for "D" all the above reasons.
All the best with your birth, I'm sure you will kick ass. I was 10 days late and by the end of it began to question whether or not I was actually pregnant, maybe it was a tumor, but it wasn't. ;)
65. coleen said:
i totally have seen that freebirthing show. that lady with the "can you pull my placenta out"? yeah she lives in my state. about 100 miles away. as if people don't think that colorado is crazy enough with our weird laws about not smoking outside.
what i love about that particular episode? how she resists everything UNTIL...her placenta isn't coming out. goes to the hospital like, hum drum, gotta get this thing out. come on kids! everyone in the car. she makes colorado seem so effing white trash. the other one i love about that episode? the lady who gives birth almost silently. like WTF? are you a human being or a crazy alien creature?
66. Emily said:
Oh, and I have to add, a friend of mine had a homebirth with a trained midwife and everything was perfectly fine, she did great, blah blah blah no judgment here, that's the way she wanted it... BUT they had to store the placenta in the freezer so it wouldn't stink (I don't remember the rules about disposing them, but I'm pretty sure it's considered biohazardous waste) and ANYWAY, the point is that the midwife put the placenta in a baggie and then took the time to fashion the umbilical cord into a HEART before freezing it.
67. Maura said:
You have just described in your inimitable way why I do not watch ANY of that shit on TV. Why watch stuff that just makes you angry?
Wishing you, Jon and Leta all the best as the birth day approaches. I, for one, feel a little "Ooh!" whenever I see a tweet from Jon lately, thinking it could be "the one." :-)
68. Kristan said:
LOL to Kristen aka Comment #10!!!!
69. Katie said:
Dude. You must stop watching the crazy women while you're pregnant!
70. Anonymous said:
#14 there's a HUGE difference between home births and freebirth. Home births are generally assited by a knowledgeable and trained midwife, the mother has had all her prenatal care, and the birth is decidedly low risk. Many women who freebirth have NO midwife, doula, mother's neighbor's sister, ANYONE with ANY training helping them out. They also typically don't believe in any kind of prenatal care. I, too, am all for natural yet RESPONSIBLE birth.
That being said, I'm at 30 weeks, we don't have cable. ;)
71. HollyLynne said:
I have somehow managed to miss the episode of Freebirthing where the mother drives herself to the doctor for placenta removal. I'm going to have to Tivo the whole series now until I see that. INSANITY!
72. Valerie W said:
Man, was I having a DAY, and here you go, swooping in to make me giggle til I feel all better. Thanks woman!
73. Laurie said:
What I want to know is how many women actually say "GET IT OUT" during delivery. I did. Three times. Even though I knew they were boys I still said "IT" like it was an alien or a Macho Combo Burrito (which it could have been.) There needs to be a statistic about this. Or a montage on YouTube.
Heather...for Gods' sake...GET IT OUT!
74. Candice said:
Man, i was addicted to those shows for the first two years of my university life. no idea why. hurry up and have your baby! i'm excited.
75. nikki said:
Hahaha I totally agree... A Baby Story is soo awful. WHO ARE THESE DOCTORS! And often, who are these poeple.... Thanks Dooce for undoing a lot of anti-glamorous anti-hip done to motherhood that this show does.
76. Shelly in St. Louis said:
Hi Heather,
This post, like many, made me laugh because like you I enjoy all those goofy baby shows on tv. My husband on the other hand, does not. He did however tape the entire surgery when our oldest was born via c-section, but I still haven't been able to watch it even 14 years later. Funny how I can watch perfect strangers on tv go through all sorts of trauma, but don't want to see my own intestines outside my stomach. Ugh.
Good luck on your impending birth. I'm sure not-Maria will be beautiful - just like the rest of her family.
Hugs from the Midwest!
77. Nicole said:
My coworkers probably think I’m hyperventilating right now trying to control my laughter. Tug out the placenta? Ventriloquist baby? I’m cracking up!
78. Anonymous said:
I'll never have kids, cute, would like to have them maybe, but whoa...
79. Betsy said:
For the record - I think doulas, midwives, camcorders and big ol' tubs are fine, if that's what floats your boat. And suddenly everyone - even my single friends who are dudes - are running at me screaming "Have you seen The Business of Being Born!!" with their Netflixed copy in hand.
It's just...what Patrice (29) said. Cracks me up, the "rite of passage" that some women claim, once they've done it in said living room, with said doula and scrambled placenta.
80. Danielle said:
Thank you Heather for clarifying. I did not read your post as a rant against homebirthing at all. I am a huge advocate of ASSISTED homebirth but I agree that going at it completely alone gives homebirthers a bad name at best and is utterly lunatic and life-threatening at worst.
81. Katie said:
I thought that said Freebirding for a second. Like Jon and the hospital staff should wave lighters in unison while you're screaming to a rockin' guitar riff as Not-Maria enters the world.
82. Caren said:
If my doctor did that with my newly born child I'd beat her upside the head.
That said, I'm ridiculously excited for you, Jon & Leta. And also a bit jealous; my biological clock's screaming at me and I'm insanely baby crazy.
83. Kate said:
When I was living in England and pregnant, I discovered "Home Birth Diaries." Look for it on YouTube. In the UK, they don't censor anything on television (which makes watching Gordon Ramsey quite entertaining!), so you would see things like a baby's head hanging out of the mother's vagina while she squatted screaming over her birthing pool with the midwife, dumbfounded husband, quivering dog and completely terrified toddler looking on. It was then and there that I decided to get the epidural.
My daughter is nearly two, we have been back in the US since she was 7 weeks old, and my husband is *still* talking about that damn show. He was traumatized.
84. LifesBeenGood said:
The really twisted part is that those two shows and the scenes you described sound like they could come directly from the show South Park. (which I'm ashamed to admit is one of my most guilty pleasures. everyone needs a vice, right?)
I think I would rather stab my eyes out than give birth at home or even watch a show about it.
Love you, love the blog, can't wait for Not Maria,
Jen
85. Rebecca said:
Ha. I can't stop watching Baby Story either. Want to look away, but can't. My mother had four children--when my first brother was born, doctors shoved a bedpan--upside down--under her to lift her up, and the ob/gyn then went and joked to everyone over and over again (within her earshot) that he had just delivered a baby "into a bedpan", and wasn't that funny?
86. SheyFey said:
WOW! You continue to amaze me at every pregnant turn!
87. jennifer said:
oh no, that sounds horrible!! i am now needlessly angry and i am not pregnant nor have i seen the show.
88. Mighty K said:
Freebirthing? Are you kidding me with this shit? OH MY GOD, YES millions of women have given birth since the dawn of humankind without the help of doctors and nurses but isn't the point of evolution that we EVOLVE from that?
I'm curious just how guilty some freebirthin' mom would feel if something goes horribly wrong with the birth and there's no one there except a crying, vomiting husband to "help". Paramedics must just lurve the freebirthing crowd, you know, keeps 'em busy when there's a lull in the traffic accident/sudden stroke/more sudden heart attack game.
89. Anonymous said:
hahahaha that is hilarious..you would like the show "I didn't know I was pregnant" on Discovery. Yeah there are people out there who was unaware of their own pregnancy.
90. Alana said:
When I was pregnant with my daughter two years ago, I was warned not to watch A Baby Story, and instead got hooked on Birth Day on Discovery Health. Since then, I love Deliver Me, and read as many blogs as I can find that are written by labor and delivery nurses.
Because I had such a wonderful experience, I quit teaching, and am starting nursing school next month. I'm also trying to get certified to be a childbirth educator.
If anyone is interested, there is a book called The Surprising History of How We are Born. It talks about the progression of the birth process throughout history, and is really fascinating.
Good luck, Heather. I am sure everything will go well for you.
91. kristi said:
Please PLEASE come be my doula in September. Not that I even want or need a doula... it would just be nice to have a RATIONALLY minded person in my corner...
92. Kate said:
PS: Here you go. Enjoy!
http://www.locatetv.com/tv/home-birth-diaries/97259
93. Dani said:
I was that way with the wedding shows when I was planing my wedding. Knowing how much those freaked me out I avoided all the baby shows like the plague when I was pregnant. I still won't watch them & my daughters 18 months old.
Good luck to you. I can't wait the hear charming/exasperating/hillarious stories about not Maria.
94. Lynnette said:
Ha! I, too, find these shows addicting while pregnant. We have an understanding at home that I'll only watch them when the hubby is out of the room, and we don't discuss the shows, as my hubby thinks I'm obsessed. I say you try growing a human and not being fascinated by TV shows about it!
95. Katie said:
I watched that Freebirthing show and I thought that girl with stuck placenta was insane. Literally. Anyone who wants to give birth without the aid of medical professionals and drugs is certifiable in my book.
Best wishes to you and your growing family!
96. Grace said:
You know what else bugs the crap out of me about all this hippie "natural birth" crap? The people who tell you that you should eat your own placenta. They are always screaming that "all sorts of other animals eat their own placentas! It's healthy!"
Uh, Coco eats her own shit, too, and you don't see anyone suggesting that.
97. becky said:
Oh my goodness, this could not be more timely. I'm 27 weeks with my first and watched The Business of Being Born last night. Already going with a midwife, etc, but the one thing that really pissed me off was the doctors talking to the women in labor, saying "Ok, Mommy, you need to push now or we'll have to have a c-section". I turned to my husband and said "If anyone calls me 'Mommy' while I'm in labor, so help me God, they need to be forcibly removed from the room!" What the f*ck?! So patronizing!
98. Anonymous said:
Turn off the TV. That is all.
99. Elinda said:
I always laugh at the shows where the first-time pregnant woman, who has read every crunchy granola book there is about labor and delivery, is talking about how her birth will be a peaceful, wonderful experience and under no circumstances will she take any pain medications, yada, yada. Then they show her actual labor. She's 2cm and screaming like a banshee! "Get me the effing anesthesiologist! Now! I was crazy before! Just put me out of my misery!!!" te he he he. OK. It's not nice to laugh at the pain of others. It's especially not nice since I'm due in 11 weeks... and I have babies over 9 lbs. That's probably why I have such bad labors... KARMA. : D BTW, reading your book right now -- loving it!
100. Michelle S said:
OK here it is. The Dr. who delivered my first born waved his hand at me while he was still half in! I'm NOT kidding. He actually came out with one arm up, above his head so he said something like "oh look he's waving at you", and I believe I remember thinking, so it wasn't just his head it was his head PLUS an arm and everyone thinks that's cute?? wtf? It is seriously messed up.
I can't look away from the shows about the biggest man alive etc. I just commented to my husband the other night who would love to remove TLC and HGTV from our set, that it is a modern day freak show when they used to travel from city to city and people had to pay to get inside the tent to see this crap. Now it's just on tv for all to see. We are all messed up.
101. Agnieszka said:
Thank you for reminding me to renew my birth control prescription.
102. Sharon said:
What? You're not going to liveblog the birth?
My favorite "Baby Story" line was from a woman who planned on using natural childbirth because, and I'm paraphrasing slightly, she would pray and God would help ease her pain. Now, I can't presume to speak for God, but if I were him, I believe my reaction would be something along the lines of "Uh, hello? I think I already handled that particular problem. It's called an EPIDURAL."
103. n said:
Heather,
What do you think about autism being connected to doctors cutting off the cord too soon and therefor the baby's brain doesnt get the oxygen it needs for the first 20 min?
104. Kelli Taylor said:
You think THOSE tv shows are bad? Well I just heard Kendra from "the girls next door fame" is pregnant, you could practically here the executives at E! jumping up and down. This season wedding, next baby. That poor child doesn't stand a chance. Of course I'll watch it...like a car accident! And my husband will be yelling at me from the other room to stop rotting my brain.
105. jennypenny said:
We canceled Dish before I got pregnant, so I have yet to absorb hours of pregnant folk stories and delivery-centered tv while pregnant, but I know I wouldn't be able to turn away if we had it. When I was younger, I used to be addicted to Baby Story and it's ilk. Now that my birthing philosophy has changed, I'm not sure I could handle it. The shows always make the mom out to be a victim in the end, instead of the competent, strong individual she could be, that would really irritate me. I tend to credit shows like these in scaring women from birthing naturally.
106. Jill said:
Ditto #98! Just turn it off!!!
107. Ashley said:
Hahahah! You crack me up!
No kidding about freebirthing, yikes!
108. Carrie said:
I didn't even know they still had A Baby Story. I'm glad we don't have cable at this point because I would be tempted to watch that stuff too, and it's strongly discouraged by the hypnobirthing people who have helped me so much with my first two births. The idea is that the last thing you need while preparing to be calm and not endure any more pain than necessary is to watch women screaming their heads off, having all kinds of complications and getting lots of medical things done to them.
Then again, the no-technology birth you saw sounds pretty awful too. And now I will search for a video of it online. Thanks for ruining my hypnobirth! ;-)
109. Belly Girl said:
I detest "A Baby Story" - where do they find those couples? Most of them are SO STRANGE.
I heard that the movie "The Business of Being Born" (a la talk show host Ricki Lake) is awesome, but don't know if I should watch it at 5 months pregnant.
110. Rachael said:
LOL I was the same way and for some reason 7 months after having my daughter I'm still addicted to watching that crap. I would and still do routinely wake my boyfriend up with a "you've got to be kidding me!!!" and a "WTF?!?!"
There must be something about IPhones, pink cases and girls. My daughter will lunge across the couch or try to throw herself out of my arms to grab at my phone which also has a bright pink case. I have some awesome photos of her saying cheese when she sees the pink case come out.
111. Cathy said:
Nothing brings out the crazy in pregnant women like childbirth shows and bulletin boards. I thought my husband was going to kill me this time last summer when I discovered Deliver Me. The baby will come soon and you'll return to (relative) sanity!
112. J.P. Fischer said:
You are a terrifically amusing writer. I shall enjoy frequenting this site now that I've stumbled upon it. Tally-ho!
113. Anonymous said:
I am absolutely LMAO. Thanks, I needed that.
114. Jill_Pilgrim said:
I was freebirthed and as a result dropped on my head pretty hard from what I hear. Now I make rubber vagina jokes on the internet. Coincidence? The only conclusion to be drawn from my experience is, do not freebirth your child unless you one day want to be embarrassed by their total lack decorum, which lets face it, is a result of being dropped on their head as soon as they exit the womb.
Cautionary tale over.
115. Ruth said:
I remember hearing a show on Fresh Air where they explained that gorilla babies come out facing front, so the mother gorilla can reach down and pull the baby from her own vagina into her arms. Human babies face backwards, so the spine is facing the wrong way to pull the baby out towards the front of the woman's body. This orientation requires someone be present to pull the baby out.
Freebirthing just sounds fucking retarded. A having a midwife at least, allows some degree of expertise to the birth, and can call a doctor or drive you to the hospital if something goes wrong. Yes, babies used to be born in ancient times with any knowledgable people around to help, but a lot more babies and mothers used to die in childbirth.
116. missy said:
This is why we don't have cable.
CAPTCHA: "guzzled Gordon"
Nope. You?
117. HAGERDASH said:
I hate how much I'm beginning to really like you.
118. Mandy {Mama's Hot Fuss} said:
Yup.
When I was pregnant with my son and home on bed rest, I was obsessed with watching all of these shows. My husband would come home to find me crying or hyperventilating. He banned those channels until we came home from the hospital. I tried for hours to figure out the password..that's how obsessed I was, lol.
Freebirthing scares the hell out of me! I read an article not too long ago about a woman who was a freebirthing advocate, and she sadly lost her baby while freebirthing at home. There are just too many variables to not have someone there that knows what they're doing; get a midwife or a doctor that does home deliveries for crying out loud people!
119. Maggie said:
hilarousness
120. Robin said:
HAHAHAHAHAHA! You are soooo damned funny. My husband and I still laugh at the look I gave my doc when I was pushing and he bursts out with "common, Robin, don't be a wussy". I swear to God if I didn't have my legs 10 feet in the air and a lack of epidural I would have scratched his eyes out with his own fingernails. Whew...now that was therapeutic. Best wishes that you not be a wussy in the upcoming days.
121. Barbara E. said:
I'm amazed at so many angry comments re obstetricians, but I guess I can stop worrying about the number of practitoners dropping obstetrics from their practices, because that's a good thing...right? Unless one's actually so barbaric as to want someone with a medical school degree deliver her baby in a hospital closer than 5 hours away. They're shit out of luck. But on the plus side, think of the huge job market for doulas!
Finally, if you don't your doctor making stupid waving jokes, get the goddam cameras out of his/her face. S/he went to med school, not Amer Acad Dramatic Arts.
Sorry, Dooce. Looking forward to Not-Maria's arrival along with every one else. Is there a name pool going? If so, I'm putting $10 on Nora.
122. Jill Put Up A Blog said:
Ha! You crack me up. If I had watched that crap, I would be going through the same process as you - planning to kick someone's ass. Don't mess with Dooce people.
123. repliderium.com said:
The visuals that this post gave me are seriously disturbing!
124. Shelley said:
Glad to hear I'm not the only one addicted to those shows during pregnancy! I like the one where the woman is doing a water birth and wondering if her 3 year old can handle watching it too. Like watching all of that come out of mommy while she's screaming in pain is comforting to a toddler?? Sign that kid up for therapy!
Wishing you a healthy and medically assisted delivery!
125. Christina said:
Not Maria, please stay nice and cozy and tucked in for a bit longer. I want these pregnancy posts to last a while, they're too damn amusing.
As for the puppeteer doctors...well, I guess they don't sound so bad compared to the OB that delivered my first baby. I don't think he said two words to me the whole time, it was like he was working on a car. :(
126. Mindy M. said:
What is with the fascination with baby shows & pregnant women? A Baby Story on TLC is ALL I think I watched my last trimester with my son (that's the only one I knew of 8 years ago). If I would have had cable with my daughter (last year), I probably would have been glued to them again. I know part of it is probably our brains trying to prepare ourselves for what's about to happen, but it really becomes an obsession (at least for me it did).
Your commentary just cracks me up. I can see & hear you talking & getting louder & louder (something I do also that drives my husband crazy).
127. amber of theambershow.net said:
Does no one else want to yell, "FREE BIRTH!"
128. Gerri said:
I've been enjoying your blog for years and you have finally prompted me to comment.
My delivery nurse did the exact arm wave with my son. My son's birth was violently painful (no drugs) but thankfully quick (pushed 3 times).
All I could say to the nurse as she waved my newborn son's arm -- who was still in my womb -- was, "JUST GET HIM THE FUCK OUT OF THERE!"
I am sure any pregnant woman walking into the maternity ward at that moment promptly turned around and decided her baby didn't quite need to come out that day after all.
Good luck with the babe!
129. Amy said:
This must be a doctor thing, where they play ventriloquist with their patients because I worked at an animal hospital where the doctors did that. When the dog or cat was completely doped up they would pick them up and kind of wave their arms around and talk for them. Creepy. And completely unprofessional. And while it's one thing for a dr. to do that in a vet's office where the owner wouldn't be aware of such shenanigans... for an OBGYN to do that with a newborn? WEIRD!
130. Another child of the Corn said:
Can't wait to see baby Armstrong version 2.
As a Level III NICU nurse (that means we take all the really weird stuff), I am SO glad you posted this. I can't tell you how many screw-ups we are sent because some woman wanted to give birth at home the "natural" way. The argument is that women have been giving birth for YEARS before modern medicine. But do they KNOW the death rates from a hundred years ago? Come on! We save lives in the hospital. Let us!
(Also, as a P.S. from a NICU nurse, please refrain from naming your child Junior IV. It makes us scratch our heads and wonder why some people are breeding.)
131. maya said:
omg. this is the funniest thing i've read in a while.
and i agree with tina - i'd kick her in the face if she does that.
chop chop.
132. Square Peg said:
"...so you would see things like a baby's head hanging out of the mother's vagina while she squatted screaming over her birthing pool with the midwife, dumbfounded husband, quivering dog and completely terrified toddler looking on..."
Poor dogs. I mean, I feel bad for the kids, of course, but why do that to the dog?
Heh, that actually did make me laugh, though.
As soon as I post this, I'm going to Google to find video of the crazy freebirthing woman, and it's all your fault. I've never been more grateful to not be pregnant.
133. Daddy Scratches said:
In response to comment #26 above from Betsy, who wrote:
"And for cryin' out loud! Someone give Daddy Scratches the I-refresh-Dooce-in-my-browser-more-than-ANY-of-you Award!"
I must defend myself here and say that, while I am definitely a geek, I am not SO geeky that I can afford to sit here refreshing my browser just in case Heather writes a new post!
I work from home. On the computer. All day. Everyday. And I use Newsfire. It goes *DING* when a new post hits dooce's RSS feed.
But I'll still take any award that you'd like to give me; my "Worst Daddy in the World" award is getting lonely.
134. mediumcrazy said:
And while we're at it, if you happen to be getting married, DO NOT watch any of the cable wedding shows on these same channels. Especially Platinum Weddings, which will make you feel incredibly inadequate and hateful toward the rich, Bulging Brides because it's as bad as the title suggests, and Brideszillas because...well you already know why.
Good luck Dooce!!
135. Parsing Nonsense said:
Ha! Ricki Lake would probably be livid at the "When Homebirths Attack!" show.
Also, I'd love to be a fly on the wall in that doctor's office when he recalls the day's events to his wife..."So this lady comes in and she's just a MESS. She's sweaty, her hair is tangled up like a meringue held together by sweat and desperation, and she's trailing a mess of gore so abysmal it made a nun collapse. She wanders up to me and I swear I can see eternity in her eyes, then she says, 'Pull my placenta." Un-f***ing-believable."
136. Molly said:
Rebecca #59 just scared the shit out of me. Better birth control than the snot ball post. uuuuggggggggggghhhhhhhhhg
137. Diane said:
This post and subsequent comments is the best birth control EVER! I am going to by a gross of condoms on my way home tonight after I have booked my husband a vasectomy appt.
138. Katya said:
Hi! You gave birth to a muppet!!!
just kidding. I think Jon is making a good call.
139. shriek house said:
That freebirthing show is just begging to have a Lynrd Skynrd theme song... "if I stayed here in you mom, things just wouldn't be the same..."
140. CJK said:
I've been reading your blog for a couple of months and just want to say brava for having the balls to say out loud all the things we think about.
When pregnant with my second child (he was born on Valentine's Day this year) my husband, a friend, and I thought it would be a good idea to look for videos on-line of natural childbirth. It was hysterical, scary, and vomit-inducing all at the same time.
Oh, and when my son was halfway out the CNM said, 'Here, pull him out!'....um, I'm sorry, WHAT?! I did it because basically if someone throws something at you you're going to catch it, but whoa.
To answer Laurie (#73) I TOTALLY screamed GET OUT the hour and half I was pushing with my daughter.
Sorry, last thing, I swear: while my husband and I were walking the halls at the hospital with #2 a nurse came out of the 'spa' room after witnessing a drug-free water birth and said, 'I think I'm going to be sick.'. These are the TRAINED PROFESSIONALS!!
Good luck to you, sooooo can't wait to read Not Maria's birth story!!
141. Lynn said:
Heather, all the best to you and Jon for a Birth Day. You are one funny woman.
142. Alexandra said:
Okay I was laughing so hard I was crying after reading your post. Then I read Molly's comment about #59. Had to go read that. Let me just say, that had it NOT been for modern medicine and my Dr. not giving a sh*t about my 'birth plan' I would be dead right now. Sometimes it is in the best interest for the drs to intervine so that the mother had a chance and living or a normal recovery. Luckily I didn't have to have to be sliced, but had they not used other means to get my son out, (who was coming out just fine on his own... I only pushed a few times, and yes as a first time mom) I would have bled to death. I don't think that I can complain about doctors trying to do there job. It's nice for those woman who's labors go perfectly, but the reality is, a lot don't. And that doctor has two lives to think about, not just someones "ideal wishes"
Okay I'm done venting.
143. DogMom said:
I don't have any children (that I know of) and that Freebirthing shit still made my uterus get a charley horse.
Buying diapers and snot suckers or whatever is one thing; buying a special pair of scissors to cut your own umbilical cord? That's fucked up.
-S
144. H2Mama said:
I, too am addicted to A Baby Story, in fact am watching it now. It makes me cry every time. I have to agree though, waving the baby's hand is just obnoxious. Those doctors need a smack or at least a Mama to tell them that is not appropriate. I hope all goes well with you and the new little one - I love touching base with you.
145. Tina said:
Freebirthing really is for selfish idiots.
146. kate said:
Just wanted to chime in- I haven't read the comments but I'm sure I'm not the first to say that yes, my OB did that with my second baby. A tiny, seconds old baby girl, being pulled from my body, and she's manipulating her floppy wrist and doing "baby voice" to me. I wish I had could have kicked my doctor in the jaw, but you know, epidural.
My husband commented that at least we knew immediately that there couldn't be anything wrong with our baby girl, because no one could be that flip and awful with a sick baby, but I don't know. I mean, I would have thought no one in their right mind would do that anyway?
Of all the things to get upset about in birth experiences, this barely ranks, hell nothing really ranks when you get to take a real live baby home. But it is pretty fucking annoying, to know you're PAYING for this level of care.
147. Kim said:
Thank you (a) for making me laugh hysterically (b) for being this funny in the days before giving birth and (c) for warning me about this show I haven't heard of, but would probably have watched with morbid curiosity had you not warned me off of it first. I have been checking your site 2-3 times a day to see if Not Maria has been born yet, and I see I'm not the only one who's obsessed. Good thoughts to you, Heather!
148. Betsy said:
Oh my God - Daddy Scratches. I know. As soon as I wrote that I was like 'Doh. Newsfire.'
But still....ya gotta say. You're always the first commenter and yeah, I DO think you deserve an award for that. Like - Dooce should let you name her baby.
149. Lauren From Texas said:
OK, have you seen the show called "I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant"?! I talked about it in my blog post called Baby Fever. Basically these women are just walking along for NINE EFFING MONTHS, not knowing they are pregnant, and then out pops a baby!! It's so scary. My husband and I saw a show a few weeks ago, and have not touched each other since.
150. kerstin said:
Sweet fancy Moses Dooce, some of your COMMENTS should come with health warnings. I am 7 days from my due date and didn't need the image of the woman cut open like a filet of fish in my head.
I'm terribly jealous you've lost your mucous plug (I know, I know, it doesn't necessarily MEAN anything). I just have the weirdest, most random pains. I think I'm just going to be pregnant forever.
Looking forward to the birth announcement, and feeling a bit left out because we don't get those shows here.
Good luck again!
151. Jamie said:
I don't have any kids, but freebirthing is something I WILL NOT DO. That just sounds scary. I will also agree with you on those doctors on A Baby Story. Only instead of a crowbar, I'd use a sledge hammer...
152. Anonymous said:
Tune in to MTV's "16 & Pregnant" tonight at 10pE&P/9C. I've seen the premiere episode which airs tonight. Saddest thing ever.
153. Katrin said:
With baby #1 I tore all the way through when giving birth. He was almost 10 lbs and facing the wrong way (not breach).
So with baby #2 the doctor asks DO I WANT A MIRROR TO SEE THE BABY'S HEAD CROWNING?
I tried to be cool. Hm, never thought that would be the kind of thing anyone would want to see, but OK, I guess. I'll try.
I lasted about five seconds. I was so terrified that I would be witness to a noisy, bloody, humongous tear. And that's MY ASS we're talking about--my one and only private parts.
Baby #3, I got drugs and kept my eyes closed the whole time. That worked.
154. Anonymous said:
Anytime you can work the phrase- You've got to be shitting me- into a post you know it's a good one. You make me laugh.
155. Megan said:
I am studying to be a homebirth midwife and I can promise you, out of the hundreds of (home and hospital) births I've been a part of, the disrespect that can come from doctors is horrifying, and one of the many reasons I support homebirth.
'A Baby Story', 'Special Delivery,' et al is sensationalist crap.
156. Sandy said:
What a great blog today! It's why I keep coming back here.
Best of luck to you as the time grows near. I keep checking every day to see if the little one has met her mom and dad yet.
157. Marcy said:
I gave birth to my son in a birthing center with a midwife. I'm all for empowering women in childbirth and giving them choices. But I cannot for the life of me understand this freebirthing thing. Is it really that hard to find a good doctor/midwife???
158. Andrea said:
While pregnant with my first child, I saw a Frontline (I think) episode about women who have orgasms while giving birth. They showed one woman in a giant tub out in some field with I believe just her husband in Hawaii (maybe?). The details are fuzzy right now.
My childbirth: Nothing. Like. That.
159. Jen said:
I have been reading DOOCE before Leta could walk. Best of luck to you all, I cannotot wait to read your birth announcement and see pics of the new addition.
160. Jenn said:
OMG..I was the SAME way. I had the month off before my daughter's birth, and spent most of it planted on the couch watching every show that had anything to do with babies (lots of them I DVR'd). It got to the point where I completely started to freak myself out. I kept telling my husband that I wanted to be prepared for anything...he kept telling me I was nuts. Good luck! :)
161. maureen said:
I was addicted to A Baby Story during my last pregnancy and thank God for that, since it saved me from a c-section. When I got to the hospital in labor at 2 cm, my daughter was breech and the OB was all, "Oh well, let's get you up to surgery then." But I had seen a breech baby turned from the outside on the show, so I pleaded with the doc. "Can't we just TRY this? I saw it done on A Baby Story!" He must have thought I was nuts, but he relented. I have to say, it didn't tickle when he pushed my baby's head from between my ribs to between my legs, but so what!
Doc was proud as a peacock afterwards, puffing out his chest and saying how he'd never done that before to a woman in labor. I was simply glad to avoid the surgery -- which I'd had with my first and knew would flatten me for weeks. After a quick epidural, my husband and I settled in to our birthing suite for a lovely night of pepperoni pizza (him) and TV sitcoms (both of us) and out popped our daughter a few hours later after only two pushes. Whew!
Just sayin', don't discount these shows -- you might just learn something that saves your ass (or abdomen) later!
162. Kristin said:
I too am addicted to TLC. I'm due with our second child in about 6 weeks, and I CAN NOT stop watching those baby shows. I have thankfully not seen any of the free birthing shows--that may put me over the edge. My new guilty pleasure is the show about women who didn't know they were pregnant until they started to give birth. I love that shit. Really? You really had no idea? I've yet to see one where I actually believed the woman.
163. AnchorMommy said:
Really? You can watch that stuff while pregnant? I was more addicted to it when I was trying to get pregnant, but couldn't stand it once I was actually knocked up.
164. Tamra said:
Hm, I think I'd take my chances with freebirthing if my only alternative was a doctor with that sort of bedside manner. Although, I'm the weirdo who did a homebirth (albeit with a midwife and RN assisting), so I guess that wouldn't be too far off from what I've already done!
165. Anonymous said:
Infinite Jest gets A LOT better. It took me 4 years to get past the first chapter. Just start at page 49 and come back to the other parts after you've gotten into it a little bit. Three fourths of the way through I thought, this is absolutely the best book I've ever read. By the end, I was a little bit pissed and desperately wanted to talk to DFW. Two days after I finished the damn book (not kidding at all), the suicide. But really: 2/3 of that book are absolutely great and searingly absorbing. Great nursing book! That's how I read it, anyway.
166. Linda B. said:
I LOVE you. LOVE! Pregnancy hormones are enhancing your humour. I thought it couldn't get funnier than yesterday.
P.s. Coming to Toronto soon?
167. bzzzzgrrrl said:
Two thoughts:
1) I have visions of the doctor from the Freebirthing show using the placenta as a puppet. Anyone else? No?
2) Do we think no Freebirthers read (or have been forwarded) dooce, or do we think they just don't want to admit it? Do people Freebirth more than once?
168. Gillian said:
Oh, just quit being freaking funny and have the damn baby already. I want to meet this kid (virtually, of course.) Let's get this show on the road, Not Maria.
169. Manic Mommy said:
I hate that show but watched every single fucking episode each time I was pregnant with my three kids. It's like watching a train wreck ... unstoppable.
Here's to getting that baby out soon, in a non-puppeteer way!
170. Stephanie said:
When I was pregnant with my son, an aquaintance lent me a prenatal yoga book. I was grateful, until I started reading it, and found that the vast majority of the verbage in the book was about the author's own home deliveries. And how she let her kids watch. And how her husband helped her. And how she carried around the placenta with her in a bag for weeks after. CRAZY! God I wish I could remember the title so I could direct you to it, but my husband and I just refer to it as "The Hippie's Guide to Insane Childbirthing."
Later I found out that this aquaintence still had her son's placenta in her freezer and intended on FEEDING IT TO HIM.
171. Rah said:
Next season: X-TREEEME FREEBIRTHING!!! Women wearing pushup nursing bras give birth unassisted, outside in the snow, while squatting over a pot of chocolate fondue balanced on hot coals! L-I-V-E !!
172. Nico said:
I miscarried, but baby story always gave me the wiggins because EVERYONE was in that room. The grandparents, parents, cousins, aunts, uncles, heck, they might even have dug up relatives from the grave and trucked em in. I stopped watching when every one of these "blessed events" was either Csection city or "hey, we need stadium seating at the business end!"
No way.
I did kick the ER doc who was doing a pelvic while I was miscarrying and she had utterly no idea what she was doing. Wrong damn hole, indeed.
However the "birth plan" I had to consider, here in canada is far more generous, I think there's a push on here to reduce C sections, as I gather it, US doctors are a little quicker to jump to interventions and such.
173. Aga said:
Three days to go!!! I know exactly how you feel and am urging things along for you from across the country. Good luck!!
174. kirsten said:
Another thought to add to your birth plan: Doctor, please do not scream at me, as if you were a drill sargeant, to "Pull your baby out! Pull your baby out!"
Because mine did exactly that. And I did. And I am still recovering from the verbal assualt that resulted in me reaching down and pulling my daughter out of my vagina.
I sorta thought that is what I was paying her for.
175. a said:
#15 - that is HILARIOUS. still laughing that you put into perfect words what I was thinking.
176. charlotte said:
Checking hulu.com for the show right now ... I think I'll spend the rest of my workday shivering over this.
And, for those who are planning it, water and the giving birth thing--sounds great, but when you're dripping, COLD, and in labor, trying to towel yourself off because heeeeeere comes the nurse to check your dilation again? NOT fun.
Yes, speaking from experience.
177. Anonymous said:
I guess I shouldn't mention how I almost ate my placenta after my natural birth. It's supposed to help with PPD.
Anyone eat their placenta? Anyone? Anyone? Buller?
Dooce? You had a run with PPD as I recall with Leta...
178. Kath said:
2 babies and a tubal ligation later, I still am drawn to A Baby Story, etc. when I'm home to see them :/ I guess they are like a car wreck. You think you need to see them.
179. Adrienne said:
I have absolutely seen one of those episodes of A Baby Story. And it totally creeped me out too. Waving? WTF??
I'm 16 weeks pregnant with my first baby now and you reminding me of this has totally made me want to tell my midwives absolutely no waving. But they're all female. And sane. So maybe I won't have to? Seems to me it should go without saying...
180. Rachael said:
I read it and then re-read it aloud to my fiancee out loud, dying of laughter. Still can't fathom the ridiculousness of some people.
Gotta do it, Heather. Siding with Jon on this one.
181. Rachael said:
OMG, you HAVE to put that in the birth plan. Seriously. That is hilarious.
~from an OB/GYN who has never made a puppet of a newborn - I swear...I don't think so, anyway...sometimes we're kinda tired when you get us up in the middle of the night (kidding!) - but who is getting a total kick out of this pregnancy and can't wait to hear about the actual birth from your perspective!
Best of luck in the coming days! ~Rachael
182. MikeWJ said:
I guess there's something terribly wrong with my brain, because I actually like the idea of watching a doctor play puppet master with a newborn infant. More so if it's only halfway out of the mom. Talk about maintaining calm and humor in the face of a storm! These doctors could land airplanes in the Hudson while cracking jokes if they had to. "Please prepare for a water landing. And while you're doing that, a mom, her vagina and a baby were sitting in a bar with a Catholic priest when a dog...." I've never watched these TV shows you mention, but now I might have to. Sorry.
183. sally said:
I had a homebirth. It was nice. But.
a) Contrary to some of the comments here, just because I had a homebirth doesn't mean I'm judging you (you being anyone) for having a hospital birth. In fact, I can state quite happily and confidently that I don't give a flying fuck where, when, or how other women have their babies. Life is too short and complicated to care, frankly.
b) There was a midwife present. Thank God, because she made sure I didn't get blood on the carpet and thus lose my security deposit!
184. Jesse said:
What if a doctor gives the baby a mohawk while it's still mostly in there? Just wondering b/c my cousin is an ob/gyn and he did that to a friend of mine...I thought it was funny from an observer stand point, but I'm not sure I would think that if I were the mom...
185. Lisa Rae @ smacksy said:
I'm not woman enough for the "I'm a Placenta, Get Me Out of Here" shows. They're like Ob/Gyn CSI.
186. Nico Blue said:
Ok, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the whole doctor making the baby wave is a bit creepy. It reminds me of the movie Chucky.
Why do I have this vision of you singing "I am slowly going crazy 1-2-3-4-5-6 switch. Crazy going slowly am I 6-5-4-3-2-1 switch" in your head.
Hopefully it won't be much longer until your little one arrives!!!!
187. Smitty said:
God, I regret cancelling my cable!
188. leslie said:
By far the worst is "I didn't know I was pregnant".
You make me laugh, I wish you well and hope that the doctor does not feel the need to make alarming noises or wave you newborn's arm around like a fool. But to be on the safe side you may want to warn your doctor of your intentions of harm should they attempt it ahead of time.
189. luvcatt said:
"Baby Story" is the most evil show on television. I also watched it religiously everytime it was on. It was a morbid fascination that kept me coming back like a jumped-up meth freak, week after week, making myself more and more nervous about childbirth. Jon is a good husband taking the remote away from you; it is the only thing that will save you now Heather.
Getting very excited to see the new baby!
190. Fidget said:
woe be it to the OB that makes my baby WAVE to me while half hanging out of my vag. I wont have drugs on board- nothing to slow me down when I grab for the IV pole to rack him in the nuts
191. Allen said:
I hope your doctor reads this blogs or someone whose knows your doctor reads your blog and can provide a head's up!
In related news, the comments were closed on the Style Photo so I'll share here;
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/police_iphone_left_in_hot_car_for
192. momtrolfreak said:
OMG Heather, you kill me. I am with you! My best friend Penny and I were pregnant at the exact same time (we did not plan it that way) and she wanted ZERO INFORMATION while I gorged on it. I watched TLC all the time, particularly Baby Story, even though, yes, infuriating. Penny called it SBC ("Scary Baby Channel") because every show made her pass out. Me, I wanted to know every possible outcome of every situation so I could not freak out--for her, knowing that same information was exactly what would MAKE her freak out. I love the Scary Baby Channel, it's so fun how clueless some of the first-time paretns are, too, saying things like "I can't wait to get home form the hospital so we can sleep better." BWWAAAAAA!!!!!!! Comedy gold.
193. ProudMary said:
I swear to god, like 90% of the time on that enraging show, the bored doctor strolls in, and with a condescending nod says to the terrified first time mother, "We're just not progressing as we'd like...time for Plan B." In other words: "Since my time is worth more than the intactness of your abdomen, we're gunna turn this 10 hour labor into 15 minutes...mkay?"
Makes my head hurt from the rage.
194. Someone Else said:
Please just birth already.
195. Anonymous said:
OH MAN, I knew there was a good reason why I opted NOT to have kids!@#$%^&*+!! Between this post and the mucous plug, I'm d@mned sure I made the right decision. In fact, I'd never even heard of a mucous plug before and could have lived the rest of my life without that tidbit of knowledge. Good luck and glad it's you and not me. And I agree with Jon on this one.
196. Emma said:
I'm surprised you haven't just hidden the remote from him so he can't activate the controls. This sounds like too much fun to avoid. I get the problem though. If only doing laundry or... well, anything else, really, was as easily addictive as cable tv, we'd all be so darn productive.
Now I can't wait to learn what you do to fill the time if Jon actually follows through on his threat... Maybe you can get the baby dancing in unison with all those kids on "So You Think You Can Dance?" or something (since I'm sure she's working on her moves quite a bit at this point). It's not cable, but...
197. Breigh said:
Problem with shows like that is they always have to choose the most dramatic cases in order to get people to watch, don't they?
Here in the Netherlands it's quite normal to give birth at home with a midwife. It's your choice if you want to go to the hospital or give birth at home. I've known people who have done it both ways and were equally happy with their experiences.
Not sure there is a lot of stupidity involved. Rather, just what works for them.
Granted, from what I know Midwives over here require a lot more training than they do in the US. Maybe that has something to do with it.
198. Elinda said:
So, what's wrong with sitting on your computer all day and refreshing your browser to see if Heather wrote anything new? Maybe, some of us just don't have lives of our own... and we live vicariously through her! : P It sure beats watching T.V.
199. Ninabi said:
My husband is grossed out by these shows, too. Please, change the channel. No, I do not want to see a morbidly obese person marry a dwarf and then give birth to 18 children and then everybody has surgery. Change the channel!!!
Well, in his perfect world, his show would consist of American Idol where all the contestants were ghosts and the entire show was broadcast from the interior of a UFO. What does he know about what is worthy of viewing?
Yes, those birth stories are often too awful not to watch.
Catch a glimpse of a show and you cannot turn away. Who ARE these people who freebirth?
Hoping to read about your own birth story here, very soon! Good luck and may your indignation and anger at the TV bring on a contraction or two.
200. Chrissy said:
Bahh haaa... I too obsessed about these shows when I was pregnant. I even got into the "I didn't know I was pregnant" show on Discovery health (even though I totally knew i was pregnant...even strangers knew i was pregnant).
Like how did they miss hemroids and the HUGE basketball under their shirts? There is no stopping. Once addicted to these shows...the only thing that will solve the addiction is child birth. Consider it your TLC rehab
201. Rebecca B said:
Forget TV what about YouTube? Did you see this in today's NYTimes? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/11/fashion/11BIRTHS.html?_r=1&ref=todaysp...
You can get more than your fill of unedited birthing footage on the good old internet. My son was born 10 weeks ago, and about a day before my labor began I became convinced that things were going to go so fast, I would not make it to the hospital. I imagined a perfect birth storm where I would reach 10 cm in 20 seconds, my husband would have disappeared off the face of the earth, and 911 would have a constant busy signal. I envisioned myself birthing in my bathtub, with only my 3 year old for support, trying to shoo the dog away from all the meaty birthing bits. I figured I'd better prepare for the worst, so naturally I spent about 3 hours Googling Unassisted Unplanned Homebirth - little did I know there was a much catchier name for it, "freebirthing" who knew?
In the end my labor was fast (2 hours) but we made it to the hospital with about 20 minutes to spare. I gave birth just the way I wanted to and it was amazing. I wish you the birth you want too.
202. Bria said:
I had my first baby 19 days ago...and I don't think I've recovered enough to laugh like you made me laugh with this post. :)
203. Sara said:
YIKES!!!!
204. rb said:
Seriously, I've done it three times and if we could go back to the days where they sent my dad off to a coffee shop and gave my mother a gas mask, I totally would.
I really hate this macha "I am more womanly than you because I endured more pain" sh1t.
205. Helen said:
Okay, let me take a few deep cleansing breaths first......alright, here is the deal-----I posted earlier, saw something about home births/UNASSISTED BIRTHS AT HOME on YouTube. Hmm, didn't know that was even on YouTube. I meandered over there about an hr. ago and all I can say is, holy heck! Dooce, if you get in a tub and it is ONLY you and Jon there--and you scream like a banshee---and you pop out Not Maria--and then you FREAKIN' HOLD YOUR PLACENTA AND FLOAT IT AROUND UNTIL IT STOPS PULSING--THEN I AM GONNA PERSONALLY RIDE MY BIKE TO UTAH AND I AM GONNA , UH, I AM GONNA--WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I AM GONNA DO BUT IT AIN'T GONNA BE PRETTY! Sheesh! I have had 4 babies, the youngest is 20! And I am addicted to YouTube and TLC going through the birth process all over again!
I am on Dooce Watch! Would ya hurry it up so I can go back and live a normal life again?
206. Erin Deegan said:
Oh my.... I just had my third baby in January and I figured I wouldn't be interested in the TLC shows again (seeing as I already went through childbirth twice).... but I was addicted AGAIN! I really loved "Bringing Home Baby". Watching these couples bring home their new little babies and act as though you need an entire herd of people to care for them and the kid. Good God... these people are so helpless. Scene after scene of new mommy laying on the bed... so drained, exhausted, unable to move. So funny!
Good news, I'm almost 5 months into it and I no longer have the need for TLC!
207. Lily said:
Seriously, I am so with you on this one. That is just freaky behavior on the part of the DR waving the baby's arm!
Though Jon is right, you don't need the added stress of hearing that crap.
Did you hear about the woman who gave birth as she was walking up the stairs?
Go here for story.
208. laborbuddy said:
that whole puppet show thing? Just the kind of thing that sends some of us to that line between bravery and stupidity that equates to attempting unattended childbirth ( btw, there are whole internet forums devoted to the topic, just so mom isn't as clueless as teh one you saw on tv).
You know, it is an option, depending on how hands on you want to be, to catch the baby yourself; that way the only one playing puppet with her is you, should you so choose...just maybe you'd find the temptation that drives doctors to that stupid little puppt act ;)Best wishes !
209. Noelle said:
Ok...let me get this straight with this freebirthing thing...soooo Dr, Midwife or other trained professional, No! Camera Crew and other random strangers...Yes? Sounds like some seriously misguided ideals to me.
BTW- I am all for home birth, just have someone there who is trained in this and not as emotionally involved in the birth as you and your partner are so that that someone can make sound,unemotionally charged decisions SHOULD something go wrong!
210. Anonymous said:
Not to stir the water here, but where would you go if you had swine flu? Or pneumonia? Or meningitis?
My guess is the hospital. Literally, the place people go to when they are so ill, they can't stay at home. A place teeming with germs of every kind.
Some women do not view birth as a sickness, but rather a normal part of human life. So why would they go to a place where people go when they are sick to give birth? The baby isn't sick and neither is the mother.
I have never seen any of these shows, but the whole idea with homebirth/freebirth is that birth is not a medical event, but a spiritual one. I think women should be empowered to give birth where and when they are comfortable.
Blessings to you and your family on a healthy birth and baby, Heather.
211. Anonymous said:
Ha! We were a potential couple for the freebirthing show. It was UK based and over there the title was Outlaw Births. It was hilarious when they told me that. And yes there are people who chose to do it who are genuinely stupid but a good portion of us are very educated about it all.
Eagerly awaiting your birth announcement!
(And yes, I was included in the show but only as part of the opening credits...apparently we weren't controversial enough and wanted them out of our face way more than they wanted. Bwahahaha!)
212. Jenny said:
My favorite cheesy pregnancy-related show on TLC lately is the "I didn't know I was Pregnant" one.
I love the reinactment of the births in the most random places -- fast food chain restaurant bathroom, campground unisex port-a-potty/bathroom....
My husband can't stand it!!
213. Anonymous said:
And in reply to the camera crew in the house but no dr./midwife. The camera crew (in our case 2 ladies) were not there. They set up a camera on a tripod in one room and gave the couple a handheld to use as well. They weren't actually present for the birth. That would sort of countradict the whole unassisted thing you know? :):)
214. Chriss said:
Good Luck to you in the coming weeks Dooce! May you have a easy labor and a well behaved baby.
215. Ray said:
Oh Heather you are too much! ;o) I watch TLC's "A Baby Story" a lot as well (although I haven't been watching it lately). Its just something you can't get enough of. The miracle of life is always fascinating; pregnant or not pregnant (that would be a "not pregnant" for me).
216. micahmaranda said:
You know, I never even thought of it, but leesavee's post reminded me that my B/F/F's first name is Donita, which in Spanish apparently means "little donut." I mean, you might at least consider the name. When she visited Mexico, she found that there is a company that makes "Donitas" called "Bimbo." =) On a more serious note, though, chop chop. Hurry it up already.
217. Bonnie said:
Well geez Heather, everyone has that clarification on their Birth Plan now. Sounds like YOU haven't done your RESEARCH.
Joking, obviously. This one had me giggling, I have a DSC and TLC addiction myself but I haven't see the ventriloquists yet! Now I have to-
218. Carol said:
Not sure if this resonates with you, but ever since having my baby, I cannot help but cry whenever the baby is born on the show 'Baby Story.' GETS ME EVERY TIME.
But then there are those moms that are spreading their legs as wide as can be for national television, and that makes me SO GLAD that I had to have a C-section. Best of luck to you.
219. Laura said:
Heather I am with you on those shows. I had a sick fascination with them when I was pregnant, but have no desire to watch them when I am not. They make me extremely angry. I have had a few angry crying jags after "A Baby Story" because of the stupid c-section inducing interventions that doctors routinely thrust on unsuspecting patients.
220. bex said:
As someone who's husband had to deliver her third born child because she wouldn't wait to you know, get someplace with medical professionaly I will never understand wanting to do that on purpose. That kid came out so fast that one minute it was like "Oh the contractions are a few minutes apart and the next it was "HOLY SHIT IT NEEDS TO COME OUT RIGHT NOW!" We couldn't get to the birth center fast enough and the midwife didn't make it on time and although it all turned out okay I think my husband wanted to forget that I even had a vagina for the next few months.
The midwife did however arrive in time to deliver the placent and I'm quite certain this is a really good thing because while delivering the baby was okay I can't imagine my husband ever touching me again after dealing with a placenta.
221. CurlyQ said:
Freebirthing? Really? I have been out of North America for too long apparently. Just when I thought that things couldn't possibly get crazier, something like this comes along.
As soon as I read this post I thought of all the horribly terrible things that could go wrong in such a situation...Perhaps the pain might get so bad that the wife might actually kill the husband because as we all know "YOU DID THIS TO ME YOU F***ING B***ARD!"
Before I was an L&D nurse I had all these dreamy notions of home birth, water birth, tra-la-la. Now that I have seen the possibilities, there is no way. Not EVER!
Midwives, doulas, water births..these are all great....in a hospital that is!
Sending waves of natural oxytocin your way as I try to find that show online because I totally have to see it for myself....
C.
222. bex said:
that should have been "professionals".
223. Elaine said:
I know exactly the show you are talking about and exactly which girl you referring to, dooce. I was appalled by her too.
It was unconscionable that she let her oldest child witness the labor and birth. How terrifying and confusing that must have been for him. Completely ridiculous and irresponsible.
My overall impression of that girl (I am purposely not calling her a woman) was that she was very, very young in age and thinking, not very bright and that her entire reason for the freebirth was out of utter distrust and nothing more. I was embarrassed that she was the lone representative of Americans on that show.
The other people on the show, save for the trainwreck who shanghaied her new deer-in-the-headlights lesbian lover into being her doula, at least seemed intelligent and invested in the freebirth concept. I can respect that regardless of whether I agree with it.
225. Steph VW said:
I'm frantically writing that on my birth plan now, as I wait for either my water to break or the contractions to get violent.
226. Amy said:
I haven't read all the comments, so pardon me if someone else already mentioned this (and I hope someone has!) but I have to respond to this: "there is no one there who knows how to get it out" Um... what about the MOTHER? If our bodies didn't know how to get a baby out, we would have been extinct long before obstetricians were invented. FWIW, I, most of my friends, and my sister have all had homebirths (with midwives, but in my case all she did was give me stitches afterward, which was all I really needed her for). We all knew exactly what we were doing, did our research, and carefully chose to have homebirths because we felt that was the safest place to birth a normal baby at the end of a normal pregnancy. Because giving birth is NORMAL--not medical.
227. Shnerfle said:
OMG, that's hilarious! How do you find this stuff? "Give it a little tug." LMAO!
228. Ainslie said:
YIKES to freebirthing!!! i am also strangely drawn to all those birthing shows and have NEVER heard of freebirthing....i'll be sure to tune in when it comes around.
229. Sheri said:
lmao. thank you.
230. Sheila said:
Man oh man, have your posts been graphic lately. But I have learned the most about pregnancy from you than anybody else I know personally. Thanks...I think.
231. Pamela said:
Did someone say "eat their own placenta"? (vomits)
Is that a real thing??
232. Maggie said:
I was obsessed with "A Baby Story" while I was pregnant. I tivoed episodes and watched them over and over, multiple times a day, hoping that my doctor would be better and that I wouldn't act as much like a nut-job as some of those women. But then as soon as I gave birth and arrived home, the thought of watching an episode made me want to vomit on my television and then throw it through the window.
233. Elaine said:
@ Amy and comment #226: homebirth with a midwife present is a completely different beast from freebirth.
234. Chris said:
I agree with you... those shows are riveting, and TLC's "A Baby Story" is often like watching a train wreck. I watched it with every single pregnancy. Over and over and over again. And I cried. Even when doctors played puppet with the baby. Sick, I know.
235. Anonymous said:
there was one little horrifying sidebar in 'what to expect when you're expecting' that referred to 'unassisted birth,' as in, what to do if you go into labor in the godforsaken middle of nowhere alone and must deliver your baby by yourself. its main advice: don't pull on the head.
on the totally heroic end of the spectrum, consider that woman in mexico who spent three days in labor, gave herself a C-section, and survived, along with her baby!
and on a much more peaceful note:
you and i
can never be
born enough
we are beings
for whom birth
is a supremely welcome mystery
-e.e. cummings
wishing you and your baby all the best, heather.
236. Amanda said:
Oh good grief! Women have been "freebirthing" for thousands of years. And, I bet there are lots of women all over the world in the midst of "freebirthing" right at this moment. When did we become a bunch of hothouse flowers?!
237. Wacky Mommy said:
Jesus H. Christ on ice and Mary in the penalty box. I am so glad we only have basic cable.
238. shotgungladys said:
I, too, am breathlessly following Armstrong BirthWatch 2009!
Before I gave birth to my baby boy, I was really, really curious about my placenta - so much so, that while I was in the hospital in labor, I asked if, once it was out, I could have a look at it. I didn't want to eat it or anything, I was just intensely curious about this thing that was basically life support for my child. Later, when things got crazy, I totally forgot about it. So my (awesome) husband TOOK A PICTURE OF MY PLACENTA. Really. And it's kind of horrifyingly weird to look at, but also a little bit cool. And really really funny when I'm flipping through these very sweet pics on iPhoto of my pregnancy, and the day I gave birth, and OH MY GOD THERE'S A PLACENTA - I think my mother-in-law will never be the same....
239. Mary @Holy Mackerel said:
No respect, I tell ya.
240. Elaine said:
Amanda comment #236: When we looked at the connection between declining infant mortality rates and assisted births with trained medical professionals and emergency equipment immediately available just in case. That's when.
Good grief yourself. How can you ask such a thing?
Yes, it works out fine for many of the people who do homebirths/freebirths or squat in a field but what about the few for whom it does not? Or would not have?
Had my sister been born at home, she would have died. My mom was a hothouse flower for taking precautions? No.
241. Noelle said:
I guess I just assumed since it was filmed that there was a camera crew involved (haven't seen the show) -still though...it just seems a little extreme. Even if you have a midwife there - she can allow you to deliver "unassisted" UNLESS there is an emergency.
242. Sadie said:
I tried to watch A Baby Story on TLC when I was pregnant, you know, to get ready. So I watched it for a while, and got really freaked out watching a water birth, but when I got the point where I would cry everytime the baby was actually born I had to stop watching. It gets me every time.
243. betsy and iya said:
Um...you're absolutely ridiculous. I seriously almost shat myself, reading this post. The best part about you is that you truly give it to us straight; one of the most down to earth writers on the web right now. i LOVE it. Also, seriously fearing childbirth...eesh, BUT super excited for you!
244. christina said:
i love your blog, heather, but do not appreciate being called stupid.
yes, i'm on of those freebirthing people, and as far as i'm concerned, freebirthing, for most of the women who decide to do it, is a safe and sane childbearing choice. it's not everyone's cup of tea, nor would i insist that it should be. but please give some credit to these women, who do more preparation and planning than buying a subscription to "american baby" and reading a copy of "what to expect when you're expecting". we're not thrill-seekers, or attention-seekers, or looking for the ultimate experience at the expense of the well-being of our children. just like the people who make different birthing choices, we want the best we can do for our children, as we see it.
245. Anonymous said:
Christina: if you truly think your choice was the best, what does it matter what some interweb stranger says on their blog?
246. Cloudy said:
My friend had a freebirth with both her children completely and utterly by herself in a birthing tub. Twice. Since there was nobody there to witness the births, I got to notarize the birth certificates.
247. Annie Stevens said:
I like how there are several comments where the author takes a cocky swagger through their words when claiming a home birth. yes, I understand that humans have been giving birth long before the hospital and the epidural, but people forget that humans give birth to the largest young, with abnormally large craniums for mammalians.
there is a reason mothers would rather give birth surrounded by professionals. while I hated the intrusion and the idea of going to the doctor, hospital, et cetera, I knew it was the best interest for my baby in case anything went awry. I'd rather deal with the bullshit of the medical profession than end up with a dead baby. though, I do acknowledge that doctors seem to provide care for their convenience, not for the mother/baby's comfort and safety.
by the way, if you want to know how it is giving birth with no medical assistance, read Robert A. Heinlein's Farnham's Freehold. That broke my heart and made me cry before I even knew I was pregnant.
248. Lizzy said:
Isn't Freebirthing a Tom Petty song? I drank heavily listening to it in college. It seems the people who choose it are also drinking heavily.
(because one can tell who was born via freebirthing and who was born with an epidural by their SAT results, right?)
249. Julia said:
Heather, If your doctor makes the mistake of using the baby like a puppet, and Jon knocks her down, like you made him promise........who will pull the placenta out? Make sure to get the assisting doctor's name so you can SCREAM it.
Don't you love the power of hormones? Oh, the drama we can pull off when we're 9 months pregnant. And others just tip-toe around us. hahaha
250. Emily said:
HILARIOUS! I am CONVINCED that you and I would be the best of friends in real life!
252. Christine said:
Gross, nasty. They didn't have these fabulous shows with my first two and I watched only DVDs with number three (all of the LOTR, all of the Jane Austen flicks on Netflix) BUT it was ER's season two, for my second pregnancy, when I would get completely hysterical about Dr Ross and the kid in the storm drain and Dr Greene trying to save the mom in ER who's seizing in labor. That last one still haunts me ... DO NOT WATCH it, Heather. I think they put a warning on screen at the beginning of the latter episode. I must have been loading up on donettes before watching ...
253. Anonymous said:
I'm due at the end of the summer with my first and I've enjoyed reading your posts as I go through it - also, I devoured your book! I love that you share what no one else talks about in baby books.
I've also been obsessively watching the Baby Story, and without fail I get pissed off at a certain part in every episode. This is the part where the physician/midwife/partner, etc. say "She says that she's feeling uncomfortable." Nice euphemism. Whoever says that should be sentenced to push a human being out of their body and then describe it as 'uncomfortable.' My husband has been warned...
254. dooce said:
I use the word "stupid" unapologetically here because two of my friends would have died had they tried freebirthing. They had perfectly normal pregnancies, not at all high risk, and then during labor they both hemorrhaged. Had it not been for medical assistance they would have bled to death. Quickly. And both of them went through labor unmedicated.
Again, I totally understand the desire for a peaceful home birth with minimal intervention. Go for it, I think it's awesome. But maybe having a trained professional nearby is a good idea.
255. Balance said:
Just for those few indignant commentators: the criticism is not about homebirths or anything of the like, but rather it is about not having anyone present (a midwife, for example) to support the birth in case something goes wrong.
Also for those who think home-births or births without meds are crazy, what's with the random judgment on women trying to reduce the amount of business in their birthing process?
My personal goal is to shoot for the ideal, but bow to reality.
256. Rach said:
Funny. I did the same thing my last month of pregnancy. Like I was obsessed with the shows. Couldn't turn them off. I even watched the shows about the birthing centers and cringed when the mid-wife (standing outside the room) was explaining what was happening as the mother was screaming bloody murder in the room. I happily checked into the local hospital when it was time.
257. Plano Mom said:
I'm still laughing. Keep 'em coming.
258. heather said:
i love your blog and i think you're hilarious and wonderfully irreverent and rebellious, especially for coming from a mormon upbringing (i did too). so i'm really surprised at your close-mindedness about freebirthing. i don't even have children yet but i think it is an interesting and somewhat appealing option, especially compared with the industrialized nonsense that goes on in hospital births. the driving-to-the-hospital-to-have-the-placenta-removed bit is a little crazy, but maybe the curious three year old just should have been better prepared?
i've never seen these shows and overall it sounds like more fear-mongering by the TV world.
259. Anonymous said:
People have issues, I understand that. What I don't understand is why anyone would sign up to have their lady bits video taped and put on national tv! Ok, so they blur it out. Ummm there isn't enough of that blurry stuff out there to make me want to do that. O yeah and lets not forget about the camera guys, sound crew, director, ect. all in the room watching. I figure if they sign up for those shows they are nuckin futs!!
260. Gretchen said:
My husband and I have to come to the conclusion that between that between all the people who have bizarre conditions featured on TLC and all the ones that are perfectly healthy but invent bizarre shit to make themselves weird (like freebirthing), they really need to re-name it The Freak Channel, or TFC.
I know. I love the watching a Baby Story too. It's god awful. I always cry when they baby is born. But, people act like idiots.
Like Hulu says, TV is an evil plot to destroy the world. :)
261. MZ said:
Hahaha I can relate to this. I watched A Baby Story pretty much every day towards the end of my pregnancy. Some of those women (and doctors) are craaazy. My roommate said she thought the show was beyond gross and couldn't understand why I felt compelled to watch it. My husband probably would have agreed, had he not had to move across the country for work when I was 10 weeks pregnant, haha.
262. Connonym said:
I haven't read all the comments yet but am I the only one thinking Leonard Skynard and some pot head in the back holding up a lit lighter screaming "Freebirth!" ? Yeah, well I guess that's because I'm twisted and probably older than most of you.
Anyway, I've been compulsively checking to see if NotMaria has arrived and I'd like to join the chorus in wishing you an uneventful labor. Is it too pathetic to ask if Jon will Twitter when you go into labor?
263. Gretchen said:
I'm surprised that no wacky obstetricians have come on to defend the ventriloquist move yet.
264. soph said:
Dear God. Up next: the drinking water while singing a song schtick?
265. Tiffany said:
I don't think I have ever commented so I guess you could say I am delurking. I started reading your site not too long after your first child was born (I realize you don't protect names but feels weird calling her by her first name when I don't personally know her). And I went back through archives and you are hilarious when you are pregnant, your entries while pregnant are gut busting....That is all.. completely irrealavant(sp) to anything else other than you talking in this entry about the shows you watch while pregnant.
side note: my daughter was fascinated by the freebirthing.
266. mdog said:
I love how this end-of-pregnancy hormone surge is making dooce post more often. Oh, and the new-baby thing is cool too.
267. Katie said:
I just had my first baby last week and during the last few weeks of my pregnancy, I was obsessed with those shows, too! Have you seen the one about those weirdos who are pregnant and don't know it?!?!? Are you kidding me?!?!?!
268. Mamalouise said:
Hilarious. I'm not sure I should say this but apparently there is some new show on Discovery Health called "I didn't know I was pregnant" and I hear that its AWESOME!
269. Anonymous said:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/parenting/05/08/mothers.index/
quote:
Compared with mothers in the top 10 countries, a mother in the bottom 10 was found to be more than 750 times more likely to die in pregnancy or childbirth.
In top-ranked Sweden, skilled personnel are present at nearly all births, but in bottom-ranked Niger, such help is available for only 16 percent of women in labor.
"The good news," said MacCormack, "is that we know what it takes to help these moms and children survive and thrive."
The report highlights the three areas it says have the most influence on child well-being: female education, presence of a trained attendant at birth and use of family planning services.
270. Lauren From Texas said:
After comments 25 & 158, I had to google "orgasm during childbirth." This is what I found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5bm9-B6Ec4
WTH!???!!! Does this GREATLY DISTURB anyone else??!!
271. Ellen said:
Heather, I was two weeks late so won't tell you to get this baby out already. I was ready to punch the next person who said that to me--that is if I could make a fist with my swollen Jimmy Dean sausage fingers.
When I was researching doulas I found one who offered to do "Placenta Prints"---WTF? Not only am I exceedingly glad I didn't get a look at mine, but sure as heck glad that I don't have a nice print of it to mat and frame for the baby's room.
As to bad doctor bedside manner--two days before my scheduled induction (that was two weeks after my due date and I desperately hoped I wouldn't need to do it)-- my doctor was at a conference and I had to see the on call female doctor (mine is a wonderful, low-key, gentle man). Because I had tests that came back mildly borderline she started lecturing me about waiting too long and "this is when we start running into issues of FETAL DEMISE" and, "if you had the opportunity to induce and waited and then something went wrong you'd feel bad". I wanted to punch that woman in the face--but with the sausage fingers all I could do was seethe inwardly.
Have a wonderful birth whenever NotMaria gets around to showing up.
272. Lis said:
Having never had to pass another human being through my vageegee, nor am I anticipating to in the near future (although I do have daydreams about being pregnant, and having the fabulous baby-belly), but I've seen many friends and family members go through various ways and decisions for their own births.
My cousin, an OB/GYN herself, had her daughter in the hospital she worked in. Her placenta separated, and she almost bled-out. There was nothing to predict or indicate this would have happened.
A family friend had a homebirth, and there were complications, and she lost her baby. The midwife lost her license.
A good friend had an unassisted homebirth, and caught her son herself. Her midwife came later, and helped with the cord and birthing the placenta.
We all know of, and hear stories about, the various ways people chose to have their babies. Anything can happen during a birth, despite how much medical knowledge we now have.
I don't know yet what I'll chose when I'm ready to push another person out of my body. No matter what my decision is, it'll be impacted by what feels right for me, if my pregnancy has been 'easy' and 'low-risk,' and what precautions I can take to ensure my child comes safely into this world.
...oh, and my birth plan will also include a no-puppeting-of-my-partially-born-child clause.
273. Lori said:
Totally agree-- that "Baby Story" is the worst! Also, what about that horrible "Bringing Home Baby" show, where they follow the new parents for the fist 48 hours? Nothing has ever made me want to tie my own tubes more than that debacle of cable tv. They really should show that one in high schools to promote abstinence.
I don't get the home birth thing, especially with all the advances in modern medicine and drugs. Would you do your own gallbladder surgery at home? No, you would not, because you are not stupid. And yet...
Also, here is a description of a porn star giving birth at home. Perhaps this birth was easier, because, um, she was a porn star: http://messageboards.ivillage.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=iv-praug06n&ms...
274. Bea said:
I thought the whole idea of a birthplan was about defining what you DO want (remembering: I wants never get). But who knew you had define what you DON'T want? Not me.
275. Suzy said:
You pregnant people obsess about the weirdest things. Just don't kill anyone, it'll all be over soon.
276. Michelle Reeves said:
We always change the channel when A Baby Story comes on, but today the remote was not within reaching distance of either of us...so we watched.
I wanted to pop the midwife who was delivering the baby - what a horrid human, who does NOT deserve to be present when a baby is being born, let alone be the one doing the yanking of the baby's arms out of Mom. She literally rolled her eyes at the woman (and the camera) as she expressed her annoyance for the woman not pushing the way she wanted. Oh she was so unbelievably rude and condescending to her throughout the time leading up to pushing and throughout the actual labor.
I thought the some of point of a midwife was to help EASE the labor, make it less scary, less "formal," less "doctory" --- if she is an indication of what it means to have a midwife, I think I'll pass when it is my turn.
277. CajunSoleil said:
Hahaha! I do the same thing. I even bought a $40 DVD about unassisted childbirth called "A Clear Road to Birth" from Laura Shanley's website, bornfree.com. (BTW, Laura Shanley's husband has also been seen on television as proof that a man can lactate. I know your husband will thank me for telling you that!) Anyway, now when I watch the DVD, it depresses me. Most of the women in the DVD had sad experiences that led to their desire for an unassisted birth. So I don't even watch it anymore. But I still watch every birth show I can find on cable!
I had a homebirth with a midwife and her two assistants last summer and, though it was effing painful, it was short. And having the freedom to do what I wanted was *glorious* for me. Worth every penny! I would have driven myself crazy trying to educate myself to have an unassisted birth. It was wonderful to have someone with me who knew where to apply gentle pressure on the back of my pelvis during a contraction to make it more bearable. In my eyes, she was an angel who came to aid me through the process. The anesthesiologist from the first birth was just "my new best friend." I prefer my educated angel. They even washed my towels and sheets that were used during the delivery. Queen for a day is how I felt! It was awesome. :)
It's the male doctors who do the puppeteering. They think they are being funny, and apparently some people do think that is funny. I, like you, do not. I hope you are blessed with a happy, beautiful birth!
278. Rachael said:
Ah yes, freebirthing-great idea. But have you see the orgasmic birth? It is as it sounds, birth feeling like an orgasm adn there is a video of a couple making out throughout labour. Uhm, sure?? And you can follow that up with videos of 7 year olds breastfeeding.
But a great documentary was the 'business of being born' by Ricki Lake, though I'm not necessarily endorsing that you watch this now. I watched it a couple days before I gave birth and it made me a scared and made me want to give birth at home. totally great documentary though.
Anyways, best of luck. My second labour and birth was amazing- 3 hours from start to finish and I only barely made it to the hospital. Still was terribly painful but I felt very empowered with as few interventions as were necessary. Here's wishing the same to you!
but the bad news is that I lost my mucous plug over 2-3 weeks, it was very frustrating.
279. Erica said:
As a labour support doula, I have so much issue with shows that portray birth as weird, strange, something to be pathologized, and medical teams needing to "put on a show".
Although 100% unassisted births would not be for me, I know I want someone around just in case some help is needed, but birth can be just as amazing with the right midwife or doctor who supports your wishes and lets birth take its course.
I think it's completely normal to be oddly obbsessed with watching these sorts of shows while pregnant yourself, and thankfully, you are aware that they are not the "norm"al.
280. Suzanne said:
Have you seen Orgasmic Birth?? Enough said.
281. Mari said:
Wow, I have not seen this freebirthing shit, what a nightmare! I think a home birth is fine, if you've had a trouble free pregnancy and a hospital is fairly close by, but to not have a nurse practitioner or nurse midwife there is lunacy!
282. Julia said:
Okay, you are making up that first show....I need proof!
I hate the Baby Story show with a passion and yet I leave it on! It's like I have an illness.
283. Ms. Moon said:
You answered your own question about why a woman would be drive to free birth.
284. Daddy Scratches said:
148. Betsy said:
"... You're always the first commenter and yeah, I DO think you deserve an award for that. Like - Dooce should let you name her baby."
---
Hmmmm. Well, whaddya say, Heather? Interested in having a kid named Tequila?
285. michelle said:
I didn't do it while I was pregnant, but stay away while you are on "maternity leave." All those PTSD (that's really what it is) hormones really get to you then. Episodes of "Bringing up Baby" and "A labor story" killed me!
286. Monkey said:
Saw "The Business of Being Born" a couple of weeks ago. Seeing Ricki Lake's snatch was...traumatizing. But for awhile, I was thinking "yeah...yeah... I'll totally pop one out in a pool". Then I realized I don't like to experience pain if I don't have to. So...yeah.
287. A. Nonny Mouse said:
I just need to say that before anyone too harshly judges Asia Carrera's narrative above, realize that she had just been widowed 2 months before. (Asia and I were widowed around the same time and actually met on a bulletin board and exchanged a couple of emails.) I think what she did was crazy, but I remember that time for myself and I was crazy with grief, too. Who knows what I'd have decided to do in her shoes?
288. kim at allconsuming said:
Now desperately scanning our pay TV guide to see if that free birthing shenanigans is airing over here. AWESOME.
And lactating husbands! WOOT! I can't wait to see Jon with bags of frozen peas on his chest to bring some relief to that dreaded engorgement. BRING IT.
Oh - and look out for stories on another new parenting movement. The one who believes you can toilet train a child from birth. Apparently you can tell from their facial expression and you simply take them to the sink and hold them there while they do their business. It's all about the parent child bond. OH YEAH.
289. Cee said:
It's called unassisted childbirth and it's hardly a stupid "new fad." It's the way babies were born for a long, long time. You should really get your head out of your ass, open your eyes, and watch the documentary The Business of Being Born.
290. Cecily T said:
Hmmm...I actually don't think the freebirthing sounds all that crazy. I had my first at a free-standing birth center (no, not the kind that's attached to a hospital) with a MW only. No drugs. I'm really really considering having the 2nd (when there is a second) at home. And really, the MW pretty much left us alone until it was time to push. Then, she played catcher. Now that I know how it goes, it doesn't seem all that crazy. I wouldn't really do it b/c I would want someone there JUST IN CASE something went wrong, but if you seem like you're having a pretty normal birth, it doesn't seem so out there. Maybe if I would consider having a 3rd, I'd be confident enough to fly solo.
Yeah, I'd throw stuff at the TV if I ever saw some insane doc using a baby's hand to wave like that.
291. Cee said:
And dooce, it is interesting that for someone who considers herself a pro-choice liberal, you judge other women's birth choices rather than support them. What happened to women supporting other women online, hmm?
292. Carrie said:
"You want me to what?" And she's all, I don't know what the big deal is, I just had a baby at home in front of my three-year-old and this damn placenta won't come out, can't you just yank it for me? Give it a little tug?
I've seen that episode also and remember that doctor's face. Reading this just had me spitting iced tea at the monitor.
Too fucking funny.
293. Eden said:
Cee -
It's one thing to be respectful of someone who makes an intelligent, informed decision that doesn't put others at risk. But choosing to birth at home with no professional assistance or expertise can't be qualified as either. Not only that -- it's putting the life of the baby as well as that of the mother at risk. Parents who put their children in dangerous situations are considered unfit parents. I would consider giving birth without some kind of trained professional on hand, regardless of whether it's in the home or in a hospital, to be extremely negligent on the mother's/parents' behalf.
That's the issue that's being discussed here. If you read Dooce's responses to these comments, you'll she's respectful of people who deliver in hospitals AND of people who want to deliver at home -- when assisted by trained professionals who know what to do when things go haywire, and who can save lives!
294. Cee said:
Eden (and dooce), if you did actually did research into the UC community, you would see that these women are highly educated and prepared. Freebirthing is not a decision you take lightly. They are not accidentally shitting a baby out just for the heck of it and cutting the cord with their teeth. These women are not negligent parents. And not a single "freebirther" would deny their baby or themselves medical assistance in an emergency.
295. Cee said:
Furthermore, women who make the EDUCATED choice to birth unassisted realize that it is not the ideal choice for all pregnancies or all mothers. A freebirther would not purposely choose an unassisted birth if she has a complicated or high-risk pregnancy, for example. We are not stupid!
296. Jasie VanGesen said:
How have I not heard of freebirthing yet? Dude.
297. Laura said:
Really, Cee? There are some crazy-ass free-birthers on Mothering.com. I'm sure you've read the forums there. My favorite? The recent commenter wondering if she should have an unassisted birth with a 30-week premature baby, and people actually writing in to SUPPORT THAT DECISION, though the death of her preemie was a likely result. Commenters going on about the "inhumanity" of the NICU, suggesting it was preferable the infant die a miserable death at home.
There's a strange conflation among freebirthers between distrust of the medical establishment and a sort of fundamentalist spirituality. Free-birthing is the place where the far-left fringe and the far-right fringe meet.
298. Cee said:
Hence my emphasis on the word "educated" - there are absolutely some very, very ignorant women out there (especially on Mothering!). Just as there are highly ignorant women in the mainstream birthing community.
299. Eden said:
I really just think Dooce's post, number #254, says it all. And being well-educated about something doesn't mean it can't kill you, or kill your baby. You can't stop yourself from bleeding to death by accumulated knowledge or force of will. Period.
And, on a somewhat lighter note, maybe it's the phrasing... but to me, "freebirthing" sounds like an extreme sport of some kind. And not a very fun one.
300. Tracye said:
Ok, this has to be thee funniest post evah! You had me laughing so hard-the woman actually went to a doctor and asked him to pull out her placenta...LOL and WOW people have lost their minds all over the place.
Thank you greatly for making me laugh, out loud :)
301. Cee said:
Eden, I understand what you're saying, but I am confused. It appears that you believe that giving birth in a hospital automatically guarantees the health and safety of a mother and her child. This is hardly the case, however.
I don't believe unassisted childbirth is ideal for every pregnancy. Nor do I believe hospitals are evil. I simply wish women would educate themselves before dismissing something valid as merely "stupid."
302. Jenny Hatch said:
"choosing to birth at home with no professional assistance or expertise can't be qualified as either."
Eden,
Intelligent? Informed? The dumbest moms I know are those who freakishly submit to whatever the status quo at the hospital is. By your logic, those who CHOOSE to give birth by c-section without medical need prove that they are the most uninformed mothers in America.
All risks increase with planned sections...death (for both mother and child), infection, morbidity, permanent disability, and post partum emotional disorders. Those of us who are the MOST informed are the mothers giving birth alone at home with only our family to help us. Unhindered orgasmic birth is often the result, as well as a decrease in infections, post partum depression, and iantrogenic complications.
But I support any womans choice to give birth where she wants. Just don't call me and my friends in the UC community "unfit parents". Many parents around the world are living with the long term consequences that follow medical birth nightmares. Two years ago all of the major obstetrical societies around the world published statements about our freebirth movement. I had a few choice words to say to them. Here is the link: http://www.naturalfamilyblog.com/archives/000944.html
Jenny Hatch
Birth Activst and Mother of Five